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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#61 » by nate33 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:33 pm

I predict a big game out of McGee. Mosgov is the kind of second-rate center that McGee routinely abuses. It'll feel like summer league for him. McGee has real problems dealing with wily vets, but he kills young guys or guys with suspect athleticism. It'll also help that Knicks don't play stifling defense. If McGee starts to feel comfortable, look out.

I'm worried about Amare. He owns Blatche at both ends of the floor. And with Blatche still not at 100%, that matchup could get ugly.

Felton can D up, but Wall scored pretty easily on him in the pre-season (19 points in 34 minutes on 8/14 shooting).

We could have problems with Wilson Chandler. He's really a SF but he can get away with defending the SG position against us because Hinrich isn't quick enough to get around him and penetrate. Basically, they're going to have a real size advantage at both ends of the court and Hinrich can't counter with quickness. If Arenas is healthy, it'll make a big difference. Chandler can't guard Arenas.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#62 » by verbal8 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:50 pm

nate33 wrote:I predict a big game out of McGee. Mosgov is the kind of second-rate center that McGee routinely abuses. It'll feel like summer league for him. McGee has real problems dealing with wily vets, but he kills young guys or guys with suspect athleticism. It'll also help that Knicks don't play stifling defense. If McGee starts to feel comfortable, look out.

I'm worried about Amare. He owns Blatche at both ends of the floor. And with Blatche still not at 100%, that matchup could get ugly.

I wonder if the match-ups don't end up being more McGee vs. Amare and Blatche vs. Mosgov. For the Wizards Blatche should be able to handle Mosgov on D. Amare will score, but McGee at least can match his athleticism more so than Blatche.

nate33 wrote:We could have problems with Wilson Chandler. He's really a SF but he can get away with defending the SG position against us because Hinrich isn't quick enough to get around him and penetrate. Basically, they're going to have a real size advantage at both ends of the court and Hinrich can't counter with quickness. If Arenas is healthy, it'll make a big difference. Chandler can't guard Arenas.

The Knicks size on the wings does concern me. A healthy Arenas will put pressure on the Knicks defense. Hopefully most of Hinrich's minutes come against the Douglas/Felton backcourt.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#63 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:05 pm

fishercob wrote:Ladies, calm down. It's not about who starts, it's about total minutes. And given Gil's fragility, I have no problem with easing him in.



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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#64 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:13 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
fishercob wrote:Ladies, calm down. It's not about who starts, it's about total minutes. And given Gil's fragility, I have no problem with easing him in.


I can see easing him in.

What I mean is 20-30 games into the season Hinrich will be playing as many minutes as Gil. Nick won't play at all.


if that is an implicit criticism, then I agree!

if it's a prediction, I'm not sure I do. KH will get minutes, but assuming Gil
is healthy, KH won't play as many minutes as Mr 111, not by 30 games into the
season. We'll have ample evidence that GA >>> than KH by then and Flip may
have communications issues, but he's not that stupid as a coach. We're not talking
EJ playing Etan over Wood here.

Re Nick - he better play well if he wants to see the court. It is or will be
unfair if KH has to meet a lower threshold of productivity to get the same min.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#65 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:15 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:Flip played Gil for 36 minutes a game last year, so I don't know why anyone would worry long term about that.

I'm seeing some of the Knicks game now. They don't look particularly good except that they've been preposterously hot from 3-point land. STAT in particular has been off, having a hard time getting inside and coughing the ball up often.



hope they used it all up for a while or at least for the next game

I do worry that Amare could play a lot better than he did in ChiTown
but the rest of the Nix don't figure to shoot 16-23 from 3 or whatever it
was. They were scorching. I'm betting on the so called law of averages
and a return to the mean.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#66 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:17 pm

nykinoz wrote:Knicks win this 107-99

Amare bounces back with a monster game, and Felton contains JW.

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Amare bounces back I'll buy, esp vs our bigs

Felton contains Wall, not so much.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#67 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:19 pm

Ji wrote:Game tonight is on an ALTERNATE CSN Channel but still in HD. 643 on Direct TV. Must win tonight


if it's must win, why'd you do the thread?
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#68 » by JWizmentality » Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:34 pm

^^ Actually, unlike the first thread, nothing has happened...so I fully expect the arena to collapse tonight.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#69 » by dlts20 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:00 pm

Where does everyone keep getting this Amare owning Blatche stuff from? Ive never seen that. Blatche's numbers were relative to Amare's last year and in the Preseason they were relative. People always say stuff like that when it doesnt make sense. Blatche hasnt even played him much. Most of the time he's on the pine. People trip because Amare blocked him twice that one game but Dray also had a driving dunk on him that no one ever has. Amare will not own Blatche unless he's still just rusty. Ill take my chances with that matchup any day of the week
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#70 » by DaRealHibachi » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:12 pm

dlts20 wrote:Where does everyone keep getting this Amare owning Blatche stuff from? Ive never seen that. Blatche's numbers were relative to Amare's last year and in the Preseason they were relative. People always say stuff like that when it doesnt make sense. Blatche hasnt even played him much. Most of the time he's on the pine. People trip because Amare blocked him twice that one game but Dray also had a driving dunk on him that no one ever has. Amare will not own Blatche unless he's still just rusty. Ill take my chances with that matchup any day of the week


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =stoudam01

Blatche get owned routinely...

Also, who can forget this...??

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJAkYB89lc[/youtube]
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#71 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:19 pm

I was not trying to suggest that Amare would own AB, I was only
suggesting the likelihood of him having a more productive game
than last night. On paper, I don't see any reason why AB shouldn't
do as well against him as Taj Gibson did.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#72 » by dlts20 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:31 pm

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dlts20 wrote:Where does everyone keep getting this Amare owning Blatche stuff from? Ive never seen that. Blatche's numbers were relative to Amare's last year and in the Preseason they were relative. People always say stuff like that when it doesnt make sense. Blatche hasnt even played him much. Most of the time he's on the pine. People trip because Amare blocked him twice that one game but Dray also had a driving dunk on him that no one ever has. Amare will not own Blatche unless he's still just rusty. Ill take my chances with that matchup any day of the week


http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =stoudam01

Blatche get owned routinely...

Also, who can forget this...??

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJAkYB89lc[/youtube]

1st of all those stats mean nothing since Blatche was a nobody bench player for most of those games and most of Amare's stats came against Jamison. Those 6 wins came against a Wiz lottery team vs a title contender Suns team in most cases and most of Amare's stuff came off of Steve Nash pick & roll which he doesnt have now. 2nd, I already talked about the 2 blocks and that was again against a young Blatche who was a bench player and just starting to get good. In that same game Dray drove and dunked right on him. I dont fear that matchup against the most overrated guy in the league. Ill take an in shape, non rusty Dray over Amare any day straight up let alone contract for contract. Amare's game is so limited
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#73 » by Soup's Uncle » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:35 pm

They just said there was breaking Gilber tnews on Wise & Kushner, but I had to get out of my car. Dumbies wouldn't say until after the break. I think they are announcing he won't play.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#74 » by TGW » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:38 pm

Mosgov continuing to suck to start the season...McGee needs to take advantage...
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#75 » by fishercob » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:43 pm

GIL IS PLAYING TONIGHT
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#76 » by TGW » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:46 pm

fishercob wrote:GIL IS PLAYING TONIGHT


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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#77 » by dobrojim » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:51 pm

fishercob wrote:GIL IS PLAYING TONIGHT



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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#78 » by pancakes3 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:52 pm

i'm making nachos for tonight's game. that's how special it is.
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#79 » by DaRealHibachi » Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:59 pm

dlts20 wrote:1st of all those stats mean nothing since Blatche was a nobody bench player for most of those games and most of Amare's stats came against Jamison. Those 6 wins came against a Wiz lottery team vs a title contender Suns team in most cases and most of Amare's stuff came off of Steve Nash pick & roll which he doesnt have now. 2nd, I already talked about the 2 blocks and that was again against a young Blatche who was a bench player and just starting to get good. In that same game Dray drove and dunked right on him. I dont fear that matchup against the most overrated guy in the league. Ill take an in shape, non rusty Dray over Amare any day straight up let alone contract for contract. Amare's game is so limited


Hey, don't get me wrong... I'd take Dray over Amar'e every day of the week, if only for his contract and potential... But seeing their head to head matchups in the past, and Dray being out of shap right now, I just think Amar'e will get the best of him tonight...

On another note;

GIL IS PLAYING!!!! WHOOOOOO!!!!

Wiz win, Gil has 20-25pts on high efficiency, Wall will get another double double... McGee (like others have said) will have a good game... I just hope Dray can make me eat crow tonight... :D
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Re: Nov 5-Bullets at Knicks at the Garden 

Post#80 » by verbal8 » Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:06 pm

That is great that Arenas is playing. I think it should be a really good game and the Wizards win a close one. I think the Wizards get a boost from Arenas coming back and the Knicks are on a back to back.

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