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Re: Wizards vs Pacers 

Post#61 » by Ed Wood » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:26 am

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a chair being pulled on Roy Hibbert - forever.
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Post#62 » by ST21 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:27 am

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If he could hit a wide open outside shot, I would have less of a grib with him.

And if Wall was more consistent, I would also have less of a problem with him.

Combine both, and it makes me feel we need more from the back up PG.


just curious, who would you have in mind? here are the unrestricted free agent pg's this summer

Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors – $10.6 million – Unrestricted
Devin Harris, Utah Jazz – $8.5 million – Unrestricted
Jarrett Jack, New Orleans Hornets – $5.4 million – Unrestricted
Will Bynum, Detroit Pistons – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
Jeremy Pargo, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.0 million – Unrestricted*
Earl Watson, Utah Jazz – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
Sebastian Telfair, Phoenix Suns – $1.6 million – Unrestricted
Daniel Gibson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $4.8 million – Unrestricted
C.J. Watson, Chicago Bulls – $3.2 million – Unrestricted


i could see maybe jarret jack or cj watson as a good backup to push wall
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Re: Wizards vs Pacers 

Post#63 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:29 am

Ed Wood wrote:If you want a picture of the future, imagine a chair being pulled on Roy Hibbert - forever.

That's almost as disturbing at Wall's stats. I'm still at work (even more disturbing) and can't watch the game. What's up with Wall? Is he coming down with the plantar fascitis virus?
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Post#64 » by dlts20 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:30 am

Its not about Wall playing bad. Its something else. He's playing bad because he just seems disengaged right now. He has like a blank look on his face and he doesnt even seem to be trying at all times. Maybe all the minutes & the dog days have caught up to him. I kinda think he has maybe checked out and just wants the season to end.

I wouldnt bench him though. I would give him a chance to redeem himself. I think the long 2nd quarter benching was enough to get the hint. I also often wonder do our coaches say anything to our players. Sometimes you need to tell him that he's playing like crap or that he needs to ball harder so they get the point
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Re: Wizards vs Pacers 

Post#65 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:31 am

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If he could hit a wide open outside shot, I would have less of a grib with him.

And if Wall was more consistent, I would also have less of a problem with him.

Combine both, and it makes me feel we need more from the back up PG.


just curious, who would you have in mind? here are the unrestricted free agent pg's this summer

Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors – $10.6 million – Unrestricted
Devin Harris, Utah Jazz – $8.5 million – Unrestricted
Jarrett Jack, New Orleans Hornets – $5.4 million – Unrestricted
Will Bynum, Detroit Pistons – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
Jeremy Pargo, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.0 million – Unrestricted*
Earl Watson, Utah Jazz – $2.0 million – Unrestricted
Sebastian Telfair, Phoenix Suns – $1.6 million – Unrestricted
Daniel Gibson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $4.8 million – Unrestricted
C.J. Watson, Chicago Bulls – $3.2 million – Unrestricted


i could see maybe jarret jack or cj watson as a good backup to push wall


There are also players in the draft.

I would have to look over that list. No Jose. I hate him. Good player but I hate him.

Also add Livingston to the list. Though he may not be a FA. I would have to check.
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Post#66 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:32 am

Team D pretty weak tonight.
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Post#67 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:33 am

What did Wall do to loose ALL respect from the officials?
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Post#68 » by ST21 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:33 am

he is but i didn't think he was pg. thought it was a mistake i saw him on there lol . i always though he was a 2 or 3 for some reason. him and mack are also unrestricted. only 2 players i left off.

no pg's in the draft will push wall imo. kendall marshall is regarded as the best pg in the draft i believe. i'm not sure he's even an upgrade over mack.
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Post#69 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:35 am

tontoz wrote::lol: @ KS making Hibbert fall. To bad Ves was asleep.


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Post#70 » by tontoz » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:35 am

Hibbert has no rebounds.
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Post#71 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:35 am

dlts20 wrote:Its not about Wall playing bad. Its something else. He's playing bad because he just seems disengaged right now. He has like a blank look on his face and he doesnt even seem to be trying at all times. Maybe all the minutes & the dog days have caught up to him. I kinda think he has maybe checked out and just wants the season to end.

I wouldnt bench him though. I would give him a chance to redeem himself. I think the long 2nd quarter benching was enough to get the hint. I also often wonder do our coaches say anything to our players. Sometimes you need to tell him that he's playing like crap or that he needs to ball harder so they get the point


Actually I think it is playing stupid and trying to redeem himself that is a large part of why he is playing bad. Lack of curtain skills and ego is a bad combination.
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Post#72 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:37 am

dlts20 wrote:Its not about Wall playing bad. Its something else. He's playing bad because he just seems disengaged right now. He has like a blank look on his face and he doesnt even seem to be trying at all times. Maybe all the minutes & the dog days have caught up to him. I kinda think he has maybe checked out and just wants the season to end.

I wouldnt bench him though. I would give him a chance to redeem himself. I think the long 2nd quarter benching was enough to get the hint. I also often wonder do our coaches say anything to our players. Sometimes you need to tell him that he's playing like crap or that he needs to ball harder so they get the point


I don't know what it is, but I agree. Is he being petulant? I would say he lacks confidence, but most of his mistakes are of the out-of-control or quick shot variety.

Maybe he is just tired. Mental fatigue happens to the best of us.
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Post#73 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:39 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:What did Wall do to loose ALL respect from the officials?


He is playing like Gil did when he wasnt getting fouls. He is playing to get fouled.

He needs to play counting on not getting the foul. Play smarter.

If refs are not giving it to you, shoving it in their faces doesn't usually win them over.
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Post#74 » by JonathanJoseph » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:39 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:What did Wall do to loose ALL respect from the officials?


Referees don't give calls to guys who play out of control. That's true at every level of basketball.
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Post#75 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:40 am

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dlts20 wrote:Its not about Wall playing bad. Its something else. He's playing bad because he just seems disengaged right now. He has like a blank look on his face and he doesnt even seem to be trying at all times. Maybe all the minutes & the dog days have caught up to him. I kinda think he has maybe checked out and just wants the season to end.

I wouldnt bench him though. I would give him a chance to redeem himself. I think the long 2nd quarter benching was enough to get the hint. I also often wonder do our coaches say anything to our players. Sometimes you need to tell him that he's playing like crap or that he needs to ball harder so they get the point


Actually I think it is playing stupid and trying to redeem himself that is a large part of why he is playing bad. Lack of curtain skills and ego is a bad combination.


You might have nailed it, hands. That seems right. He's playing his own game but keeps making the same dumb mistakes. Leaving his feet, stopping his dribble, spotting up from three, putting his head down and driving even when there's no screener or numbers. Wall is doing his best Javale imitation.

Ironically, he was the happiest when McGee got traded.
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Re: Wizards vs Pacers 

Post#76 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:41 am

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dlts20 wrote:Its not about Wall playing bad. Its something else. He's playing bad because he just seems disengaged right now. He has like a blank look on his face and he doesnt even seem to be trying at all times. Maybe all the minutes & the dog days have caught up to him. I kinda think he has maybe checked out and just wants the season to end.

I wouldnt bench him though. I would give him a chance to redeem himself. I think the long 2nd quarter benching was enough to get the hint. I also often wonder do our coaches say anything to our players. Sometimes you need to tell him that he's playing like crap or that he needs to ball harder so they get the point


I don't know what it is, but I agree. Is he being petulant? I would say he lacks confidence, but most of his mistakes are of the out-of-control or quick shot variety.

Maybe he is just tired. Mental fatigue happens to the best of us.


Or maybe he is just stubborn and bull headed.
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Re: Wizards vs Pacers 

Post#77 » by ST21 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:42 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ironically, he was the happiest when McGee got traded.


just curious, what are you basing this comment off of?

and nice word "petulant" btw. good word. caught me off guard lol.
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Post#78 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:45 am

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zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:What did Wall do to loose ALL respect from the officials?


Referees don't give calls to guys who play out of control. That's true at every level of basketball.


He doesn't make enough quality plays on a consistent basis to earn their respect.
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Post#79 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:46 am

Collison is just schooling Wall.
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Post#80 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 5, 2012 12:46 am

Skip down. Double post, sorta

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