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Post#61 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:34 am

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For all the crap J. Crawford gets for his hero balling, it seems at times he is the most disrespected player by the refs. He absorbs so much contact and gets no calls.


Glaring at the refs and screaming AND 1 on every play doesnt help his case.
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Post#62 » by nate33 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:35 am

tontoz wrote:
80sballboy wrote:I love Big Keveen but we did play Orlando without Dwight, that's like playing the Lakers without Kobe. He's kind of important. We got a break tonight and took advantage. Orlando has been absolutely dreadful lately .


They blew out the Pistons last night and beat Philly the game before that.

The Wizards were without Nene/Booker and shot only 3-15 from 3 and still won.

And Glen Davis had been on a tear until tonight. In the 5 games with Howard out, Davis averaged 21 and 12 on 46% shooting. Seraphin held him to 12 and 10 on 38% shooting.
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Post#63 » by nuposse04 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:38 am

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nuposse04 wrote:
For all the crap J. Crawford gets for his hero balling, it seems at times he is the most disrespected player by the refs. He absorbs so much contact and gets no calls.


Glaring at the refs and screaming AND 1 on every play doesnt help his case.


well I don't expect him to give them an ol fashioned but you would think they would notice at one point. I don't recall him taking one FT this game, and with the amount he operates near the rim you can see why he gets frustrated. He still has no business starting but he isn't a lost a cause or anything.
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Post#64 » by closg00 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:50 am

Late-season DL/FA additions have been good for the Wizards, they play with more fire and passion.
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Post#65 » by JonathanJoseph » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:30 am

The beautiful thing is that Seraphin's impact goes beyond his numbers. He's a dominant post defender and it's just beautiful to watch.
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Post#66 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:30 am

Crawford hit some timely shots tonight but I still hate him. Isolate. shoot. repeat. Truth about it recently had a post about his poor play so I did some digging.

Per 36 minuts Jordan takes 5.7 3PA while shooting 30% from 3. Since the beginning of the NBA 3 point era there has never been anyone who shoots that many 3s, while being that inefficient (who played over 25 minutes per game).

So basically, he shoots a lot, misses a lot and continues to shoot a lot... and miss.
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Post#67 » by DCZards » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:49 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Crawford hit some timely shots tonight but I still hate him. Isolate. shoot. repeat. Truth about it recently had a post about his poor play so I did some digging.

Per 36 minuts Jordan takes 5.7 3PA while shooting 30% from 3. Since the beginning of the NBA 3 point era there has never been anyone who shoots that many 3s, while being that inefficient (who played over 25 minutes per game).

So basically, he shoots a lot, misses a lot and continues to shoot a lot... and miss.


Yup, for the season Crawford is shooting 30% from the 3 pt line. But for the last 8 games he's shooting 40% on 3 pointers. :D
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Post#68 » by Higga » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:59 am

Damn Seraphin with a dominant game. I was not high on him at all but I'll gladly admit I may have been wrong about him.

These D-Leaguers Martin and Singleton playing well too(is it sad that they might be better then our lotto pick Vesley?).
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Post#69 » by DCZards » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:50 am

Higga wrote:Damn Seraphin with a dominant game. I was not high on him at all but I'll gladly admit I may have been wrong about him.

These D-Leaguers Martin and Singleton playing well too(is it sad that they might be better then our lotto pick Vesley?).


Singleton is 30 years old with several years of NBA exp. and Martin is 27 with at least 4 years of pro experience. Ves is 21 and a rookie.
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Post#70 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:20 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Wall played great. Seraphin was tremendous. Kevin totally outplayed Glen Davis. James Singleton was fantastic in the fourth. Jordan Crawford threw some very nice passes and played under control. He hit some huge shots. Cartier played well. Vesely was all over the boards and played great defense.

The spacing was terrific on offense.

They defended the pick and roll and the three point line better than I can recall.

This win was awesome.

Very few turnovers--probably the best floor game I've seen Wall play, if not last game.

WOW!


Bring back Randy Whitman. Now is not the time to change coaches. This guy has been good with this group. They like him and they respond to him. I love his defensive scheme and he adjusts the offense according to the player he has available. They have a nice combination of uptempo, post game and passing.
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Post#71 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:26 am

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closg00 wrote:With a late-season run, Ernie might save his job.


You know what? I would prefer Ernie and Whitman to D'Antoni and Walsh.

There's really no need to change what IS working, all of a sudden.

When I'm wrong I'm wrong. Vesely can play. Seraphin is very good. Ernie wisely got Singleton and Martin back in Wizard uniforms.

Wittman is a heck of a lot better coach for this group than Flip Saunders.

The way they've played since that trade--even without Nene, has been very encouraging.

The team has a post game with Seraphin. The key to the Wizards improving is going to be Kevin at C and Nene at PF, with Booker and James Singleton off the bench. That is a pretty solid group. They need some height, but the biggest needs are on the perimeter.

Really impressive game.


I agree. Bring them both back for at least 1 more year. I have a really bad feeling about changing to D'Antoni and Walsh. I want to see these two finish what they started. Randy is a good coach and EG has assembled a nice core. Bring back James. Add a draft pick. What Im seeing is something headed in the right direction. If Nene and Booker were on the court also, they would be pretty deep. Add another SG and back up PG and there is nothing wrong with this product.
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Post#72 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:48 am

As for the DL call ups, they have been playing without a SF all year. C Singleton may turn into something next year but this year, he was not nearly enough. He is a rookie after all.

Plus the combo of Crawford and Mason is way better then Crawford and Nick.

Add Mr James Singleton and you just added a lot of experience.

And we finally have centers who will defend. The late surge by KS has been huge and Nene was way way better then McGee.

And Ves is settling in. 11 rebounds last night. 9 tonight.

KS and Ves are both great passers. And how good is Kevins left hand looking. Not many in the league are that good with their off hand.

Things are coming together.
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Post#73 » by jivelikenice » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:06 am

I like what's gone on the last 2 games but lets be realistic, we played the Bobcats and Magic w/o Dwight. Just last Friday we played one of the worst and most unwatchable performances I've ever seen in the loss to the Nets. Sure, lets see the season play out but I wouldn't let a little run to play out the season affect long-term planning. If they get blown out by the Knicks on Friday what will you think then?
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Post#74 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:09 am

jivelikenice wrote:I like what's gone on the last 2 games but lets be realistic, we played the Bobcats and Magic w/o Dwight. Just last Friday we played one of the worst and most unwatchable performances I've ever seen in the loss to the Nets. Sure, lets see the season play out but I wouldn't let a little run to play out the season affect long-term planning. If they get blown out by the Knicks on Friday what will you think then?


Its not about just two games.
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Post#75 » by jivelikenice » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:18 am

Would you have suggested this last Friday night?

On a separate but related note, Ernie is only coming back on a multi-year deal. His contract is up. He won't come back on a one year deal. I'm sorry but Ernie hasn't earned a multi-year deal. We're the 2nd worst team in the league! He didn't get shooters, he based a good part of our growth on three clowns, the jury's still out on the '11 draft. Sorry, time for him to go.
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Post#76 » by closg00 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:00 am

jivelikenice wrote:Would you have suggested this last Friday night?

On a separate but related note, Ernie is only coming back on a multi-year deal. His contract is up. He won't come back on a one year deal. I'm sorry but Ernie hasn't earned a multi-year deal. We're the 2nd worst team in the league! He didn't get shooters, he based a good part of our growth on three clowns, the jury's still out on the '11 draft. Sorry, time for him to go.


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Post#77 » by dobrojim » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:43 am

nuposse04 wrote:Wall pretty much let it be known he wants J. Singleton back next season...he is a good rotation guy...I'm wondering if this may change our draft strategy since we have a surplus of bigs.

For all the crap J. Crawford gets for his hero balling, it seems at times he is the most disrespected player by the refs. He absorbs so much contact and gets no calls.


and by fans of his own team

for a guy just finishing his first full year of playing in the assoc, he's not
doing that badly. His main flaw, shot selection, is fixable. Better shot
selection should lead to better efficiency. Right now when he's starting,
he probably should be one of the top options other than Kevin.
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Post#78 » by dobrojim » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:45 am

closg00 wrote:Late-season DL/FA additions have been good for the Wizards, they play with more fire and passion.


The addition of players who have shooting ability has been a big help.
I'm sure this doesn't come as a huge surprise to most here.
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Post#79 » by closg00 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:03 pm

"We might have to go to all 10-day contracts next year," Washington coach Randy Wittman said. "Some of guys might not like it."


It's not just the shooting, it's the hustle and the rebounding also.
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Post#80 » by jangles86 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:26 pm

It's no surprise that Walls assist numbers have gone up since our spot up shooters have started hitting open threes. If They were doing that from start of season Wall would be averaging 10apg easily

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