Melo?

[dangermouse]

I'd move Nene for him. NY would be looking for incentive. I wouldnt want to give them Porter. So i doubt the trade would happen just based on that alone.

Melo himself, he would solve our scoring issues. There are times where we've needed a basket, a go-to scorer. Unfortunately he would create a whole host of other problems with his ball stopping ways and lack of D.

[kirubel94]

Pros
- Closer, can score anytime he wants.
- Rebounds better than Nene.
- Durable.
- Still in his prime.
- Would get rid of the injury prone Nene, would also get rid of his contract.
- Can play Melo at the 4 to strech the floor.
Cons
- Would lose a good Defender in Ariza.
- Would lose a good prospect in Porter.
- Team defense would be slightly worse.

Overall, you would have to convince Melo to play team ball, which he hasn't been able to do so far in his career.

[Knighthonor]

Wizards should not look into another older player who probably won't accept team basketball concept..and going with wiz history with injuries will miss a lot of games.

Wiz desperately need a Young talented Center.. Nene and Gortat aren't the answers for elite team success especially playoffs.

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

[mhd]

I WOULD trade Nene+Porter for Melo just to get out of Nene's salary, but the Knicks won't do it.

[dangermouse]

I WOULD trade Nene+Porter for Melo just to get out of Nene's salary, but the Knicks won't do it.

Trade machine only gives us +4 more wins haha.

[montestewart]

So, after a few years of mid-40s win records, after a few years of Melo's gotta-have-the-ball negating much of what Wall and Beal hopefully have to offer, after Melo's contract expires and/or he forces a trade, what will the team have? Wall, Beal, maybe Webster, maybe Gortat (Ha! What if he departs?), and nothing to show for 1st round picks in 2011, 2013, 2014. I just don't see EG making a big move like that and it not making the Wizards even bleaker than it already looks to me now.

[mhd]

So, after a few years of mid-40s win records, after a few years of Melo's gotta-have-the-ball negating much of what Wall and Beal hopefully have to offer, after Melo's contract expires and/or he forces a trade, what will the team have? Wall, Beal, maybe Webster, maybe Gortat (Ha! What if he departs?), and nothing to show for 1st round picks in 2011, 2013, 2014. I just don't see EG making a big move like that and it not making the Wizards even bleaker than it already looks to me now.

Nah, I wouldn't even mind letting Melo leave in the off-season. I think Porter is not ready to play at ALL. He's got no NBA body, and would take a beating trying to defend SFs. Remember when Rip was abused when he first came into the league? Porter got a weaker body than Rip did!

I have a real sneaking suspicion that Porter is a huge bust. Better to try and get value while you can.

[hands11]

I WOULD trade Nene+Porter for Melo just to get out of Nene's salary, but the Knicks won't do it.

No, they won't. Why would they take on Nene when they are already dealing with Stoudemire?

I remember 2-3 years ago NY trying to rebuild and getting Melo. This whole thing has been a failed experiment as was the Melo drama from Denver move. They over paid for Melo from the get go. Then Chandler left a decent team to buy into the failed plan. The entire collection of players sucks. The team has no soul.

Money can't by you love. They need to ride this out. Then blow it up and try to build something real. Honestly, I think NY has been a disaster for a while and they only live by their pass reputation.

I don't think its going to go smoothly for NY. They have crap that is expensive that no one wants.

Chandler is like Nene. He gets hurt. Stoudemire is damaged goods and massively overpaid. Andrea Bargnani sucks, injured and overpaid. And then you have Carmelo Anthony. Over paid. Not a winner yet.

They can't dump their expensive players, they can't win with them, and they can't afford to lose their cheaper good players like JR Smith and Tim Hardaway Jr. But if they had a soul, they would set them free. That team is a hot mess.

Chandler will return. They will look better. But I expect then to show up injured again and then fail. They have to same problem with their front court that we have with Nene, only they have a 87M cap number that goes up to 91M next year. They are in worse shape then the Wizards are.

[montestewart]

So, after a few years of mid-40s win records, after a few years of Melo's gotta-have-the-ball negating much of what Wall and Beal hopefully have to offer, after Melo's contract expires and/or he forces a trade, what will the team have? Wall, Beal, maybe Webster, maybe Gortat (Ha! What if he departs?), and nothing to show for 1st round picks in 2011, 2013, 2014. I just don't see EG making a big move like that and it not making the Wizards even bleaker than it already looks to me now.

Nah, I wouldn't even mind letting Melo leave in the off-season. I think Porter is not ready to play at ALL. He's got no NBA body, and would take a beating trying to defend SFs. Remember when Rip was abused when he first came into the league? Porter got a weaker body than Rip did!

I have a real sneaking suspicion that Porter is a huge bust. Better to try and get value while you can.

You might be right about Porter, but if he needs to be traded while he still has value, I don't think a trade for Melo is the right direction, even with dumping Nene's contract. Terd might like it because he can fill seats with "watch Melo drop 40" fans, but it would just commit the team to another maxed out dead end.

[Hidden Eye]

Wizards should not look into another older player who probably won't accept team basketball concept..and going with wiz history with injuries will miss a lot of games.

Wiz desperately need a Young talented Center.. Nene and Gortat aren't the answers for elite team success especially playoffs.

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

Not sure haven't watched both of them a lot but the Wizards clearly said they want to make the playoffs so getting a top ten pick this year is very unlikely and a bad move because waiting 2-4 years for a pick to develop is not what the wizards want. Guranteed Wall doesn't want another top pick and wait years till they become a elite team when they can get FAs which which contirbute right away instead of gambling wasting away years.

Getting more "picks" and waiting years has been over and done with unless they can contribute right away and that's a very small percentage what rookies can do.. wiz already had top ten last 4 years.

[verbal8]

Wizards should not look into another older player who probably won't accept team basketball concept..and going with wiz history with injuries will miss a lot of games.

Wiz desperately need a Young talented Center.. Nene and Gortat aren't the answers for elite team success especially playoffs.

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

Not sure haven't watched both of them a lot but the Wizards clearly said they want to make the playoffs so getting a top ten pick this year is very unlikely and a bad move because waiting 2-4 years for a pick to develop is not what the wizards want. Guranteed Wall doesn't want another top pick and wait years till they become a elite team when they can get FAs which which contirbute right away instead of gambling wasting away years.

Getting more "picks" and waiting years has been over and done with unless they can contribute right away and that's a very small percentage what rookies can do.. wiz already had top ten last 4 years.

The problem has been using the picks incorrectly. The 2009 pick was wasted the 2011 draft was blown. Once a team is better than terrible it gets hard to add talent via the draft, but it is an option there are players in every draft that slip through the cracks. Until the end of the 1st round, I don't think looking for immediate impact in draft picks is a good strategy.

As a team gets closer to their peak, the emphasis does switch to trades and free agency. The problem here has been making trades and signings from a point of weakness.

[nate33]

Wizards should not look into another older player who probably won't accept team basketball concept..and going with wiz history with injuries will miss a lot of games.

Wiz desperately need a Young talented Center.. Nene and Gortat aren't the answers for elite team success especially playoffs.

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

Not sure haven't watched both of them a lot but the Wizards clearly said they want to make the playoffs so getting a top ten pick this year is very unlikely and a bad move because waiting 2-4 years for a pick to develop is not what the wizards want. Guranteed Wall doesn't want another top pick and wait years till they become a elite team when they can get FAs which which contirbute right away instead of gambling wasting away years.

Getting more "picks" and waiting years has been over and done with unless they can contribute right away and that's a very small percentage what rookies can do.. wiz already had top ten last 4 years.

Just because Ernie Grunfeld sucks at drafting, doesn't mean that a build through the draft strategy is bad. You must build through the draft because it costs too much to build through free agency. As we can see right now, the Wizards have just 6 legit players, yet they are still bumping up against the luxtax limit. How bad would things be if they didn't luck into the #1 overall pick in 2010?

There have been dozens of really good players drafted in the last 4 drafts that are helping their teams win right now at low cost. We know the names: Lance Stevenson, Klay Thompson, Nikola Vucevic, Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Kyle Singler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Michael Carter-Williams, Stephen Adams. All these guys were available when we picked Vesely, Singleton, Porter, Mack and Satoransky. If one wants to criticize the Beal pick, one can point out that Drummond and Lilliard were available.

And I won't even get into the wasted 2009 pick where we traded Stephen Curry for a one-year rental of Mike Miller.

[Hidden Eye]

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

Not sure haven't watched both of them a lot but the Wizards clearly said they want to make the playoffs so getting a top ten pick this year is very unlikely and a bad move because waiting 2-4 years for a pick to develop is not what the wizards want. Guranteed Wall doesn't want another top pick and wait years till they become a elite team when they can get FAs which which contirbute right away instead of gambling wasting away years.

Getting more "picks" and waiting years has been over and done with unless they can contribute right away and that's a very small percentage what rookies can do.. wiz already had top ten last 4 years.

The problem has been using the picks incorrectly. The 2009 pick was wasted the 2011 draft was blown. Once a team is better than terrible it gets hard to add talent via the draft, but it is an option there are players in every draft that slip through the cracks. Until the end of the 1st round, I don't think looking for immediate impact in draft picks is a good strategy.

As a team gets closer to their peak, the emphasis does switch to trades and free agency. The problem here has been making trades and signings from a point of weakness.

I wouldn't call that a weakness might as well call every team a weakness because they are signing FAs even better when the Wiz make the playoffs might turn heads of some players who wouldn't come here until they see what kind of team it could turn out to be post season. Makes it more attractive than not making post season. Wiz already had enough draft picks they should keep drafting but not have their all their eggs on that basket unless it's really legit.

Can Parker or Randle handle NBA PF?

I would like a Parker, since he seem like a Point Forward to me. Problem is the Wiz need a huge draft pick to get him. smh.

Not sure haven't watched both of them a lot but the Wizards clearly said they want to make the playoffs so getting a top ten pick this year is very unlikely and a bad move because waiting 2-4 years for a pick to develop is not what the wizards want. Guranteed Wall doesn't want another top pick and wait years till they become a elite team when they can get FAs which which contirbute right away instead of gambling wasting away years.

Getting more "picks" and waiting years has been over and done with unless they can contribute right away and that's a very small percentage what rookies can do.. wiz already had top ten last 4 years.

Just because Ernie Grunfeld sucks at drafting, doesn't mean that a build through the draft strategy is bad. You must build through the draft because it costs too much to build through free agency. As we can see right now, the Wizards have just 6 legit players, yet they are still bumping up against the luxtax limit. How bad would things be if they didn't luck into the #1 overall pick in 2010?

There have been dozens of really good players drafted in the last 4 drafts that are helping their teams win right now at low cost. We know the names: Lance Stevenson, Klay Thompson, Nikola Vucevic, Kawhi Leonard, Kenneth Faried, Kyle Singler, Chandler Parsons, Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Michael Carter-Williams, Stephen Adams. All these guys were available when we picked Vesely, Singleton, Porter, Mack and Satoransky. If one wants to criticize the Beal pick, one can point out that Drummond and Lilliard were available.

And I won't even get into the wasted 2009 pick where we traded Stephen Curry for a one-year rental of Mike Miller.

Won't cost much if they move Arizas contract or Nene's but at this point right now with Nenes health trading him would be hard to do Ariza on the other hand can build good stock for summer. Draft is a big risk through this supposedly "Deep" draft. They have to step on court and prove it regardless of how good college players are and if they are nba ready. I wouldn't say signings costs too much players can improve and be more eyeful for tradings when season is done.

[hands11]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... lo-anthony

Melo really is just and insane scoring machine. Gotta give him that.

And 7 to 8 FTA a game year after year after year.

Problem is his contract. Melo at 16 or 17M a year, hell yeah. Just get a good coach that can get the most from him.

All this losing with New York should actually be good for him. Its an opportunity to mature.

[verbal8]

It will be interesting to see the contracts that Melo and Rudy Gay get the next year. Hard to see even the Knicks justifying a max deal for him if they can't make the play-offs.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Melo really is just and insane scoring machine. Gotta give him that.

And 7 to 8 FTA a game year after year after year.

Problem is he contract. Melo at 16 or 17M a year, hell yeah. Just get a good coach that can get the most from him.

All this losing with New York should actually be good for him. Its an opportunity to mature.

[Dark Faze]

There's no way I give up Porter, but I'd give them Ariza, Nene and our 2015 pick.

The guys underrated talent is rebounding. We're a terrible rebounding team right now. Him as a stretch 4 that can rebound would help us so much, and can you imagine a lineup of:

Wall
Beal
Webster
Melo
Gortat

The spacing would simply be ridiculous.

But like everyones saying though--16-17 mill a year--alright lets go, 20-23 mill he's looking for? No way.

[Nivek]

Wizards are about average in rebounding this season. They're a little better than average on the defensive boards; a little worse than average on the offensive glass. Not terrible.

[Higga]

I don't want Melo anywhere near this team.

Let him continue to plummet the Knicks into mediocrity.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony

Melo really is just and insane scoring machine. Gotta give him that.

And 7 to 8 FTA a game year after year after year.

Problem is his contract. Melo at 16 or 17M a year, hell yeah. Just get a good coach that can get the most from him.

All this losing with New York should actually be good for him. Its an opportunity to mature.

If Phil Jackson were our coach, I'd be all in for Melo.

He needs a super well respected coach (doesn't have to be Jackson, but could be Coach K, Pops, or even Thibs) who understands how to get guys to buy into a team concept. Melo playing for Woodson (or Witt for that matter) is never going to work.

Wall, Beal, Webby, Melo and Gortat w. adequate filler behind them and Phil Jackson etc. coaching is enough to make you start thinking about competing for the ECFs.

[Dat2U]

There's no way I give up Porter, but I'd give them Ariza, Nene and our 2015 pick.

The guys underrated talent is rebounding. We're a terrible rebounding team right now. Him as a stretch 4 that can rebound would help us so much, and can you imagine a lineup of:

Wall
Beal
Webster
Melo
Gortat

The spacing would simply be ridiculous.

But like everyones saying though--16-17 mill a year--alright lets go, 20-23 mill he's looking for? No way.

It's really hard to trade a future 1st because of the protections on the 1st rounder were sending to Phoenix.

I'd consider Porter, Nene & Maynor tho for Melo & Udrih.