OT: Pau to Lakers!

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #61 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:53 pm

Man, I gotta be out of pocket for a few hours ...

Hate to miss the next few posts because I think this will be a megatrade weekend.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #62 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:55 pm

Ironically, I chose not to fly in to Memphis today. I had a death in my family and the funeral is in MS, tomorrow.

My sister's probably landing in Memphis right about now.

Not that has to do with anything, but just would have been ironic to be in Memphis the day of the Pau trade. And for Kwame, a guy I've (briefly) met.

Irony.

yungal07 · Post #63 » by **yungal07** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:01 pm

I would have traded Jamison to the Grizz for Gasol in a heartbeat. And they (the Grizz) would have done it too.

*sigh*

MJG · Post #64 » by **MJG** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:05 pm

I'm with those who think this trade is ridiculous. A near-20-10 big just entering the prime of his career for an expiring contract, two late first rounders, and a mediocre prospect at a position where you already have two better young players? I absolutely refuse to believe that they couldn't have gotten something better.

On the plus side, it's too funny that Navarro is all alone in Memphis now.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #65 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:06 pm

Wow, this is why the NBA sucks compared to the NFL. The same rich teams get richer. The same big market teams always get all the damn breaks. It sucks to be a fan of one of the non-Golden NBA teams.

Let's just be honest for a minute, do we really think that's the best deal they could have got? The Bulls could have gave them young talent like Deng and Gordon who also has expiring contracts.

Also I think the Lakers are now a real bad team defensively and they won't make it past the second round of the players. Gasol is a know choker and bad defender. Duncan, Dirk, and Boozer always light him up.

Post #66 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:06 pm

mhd wrote:I think Memphis came out OK to think about it. They wanted needed a young 2g (Crittendon) to play alongside Conley and Gay. They can tank for the #1 pick (Beasley) and start with a really nice team.

I have to assume that's the plan.

Also, I don't think Memphis got that raw of a deal. Philly didn't get much more for Iverson. The KG deal wasn't the boon for Minny that everyone thought it would be. Heck, the only reason why Seattle got as much as they did for Ray Allen was because Ainge was desperate to make a move.

I wonder how this affect Kidd's value on the Market?

Further, could this be a prelude to a Odom+filler for Kidd deal?

Nets trade: Jason Kidd and Jason Collins
Nets receive: Odom, Navarro, and Swift

Grizzlies trade: Gasol, Navarro, and Swift
Grizzlies receive: Collins, Kwame, Crittenton, Ariza, and LA picks

Lakers trade: Odom, Kwame, Crittenton, Ariza and 2 picks
Lakers receive: Pao Gasol and Jason Kidd

TRADE ID 4458185

Bynum/Mihm
Gasol/Turiaf
Walton/Radman
Kobe/Vujacic
Kidd/Fisher/Farmar

fishercob · Post #67 » by **fishercob** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:10 pm

Yep, Miami fans have to be pissed.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #68 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:12 pm

nate33 wrote:The only rational explaination is that there is an under the table deal going on.

Stern must have promised them the #1 pick in the draft in exchange for this trade. Nothing else makes sense.

nate, I think you're absolutely, positively correct.

Boston/LA finals makes hand over fist money.

Smoking gun points to Stern.

That or as I said in the LAL forum, Dr. Jerry Buss has hooked up Memphis' GM Chris Wallace up with a lifetime pass to the Champagne Room at the Platinum Club. The hoochies belong to him no matter who they're with.

Buss might have secretly offered up Phil Jackson's squeeze, his daughter Jeanie, to pull this deal off.

There's more to this deal than what's being reported.

yungal07 · Post #69 » by **yungal07** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:16 pm

You forgot that the Grizz send their 2nd rounder this year as well.

fishercob · Post #70 » by **fishercob** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:21 pm

Wow. Shiddy day for Marc Gasol. Your star brother gets traded to the Lakers and you get shipped to Memphis.

tkunit · Post #71 » by **tkunit** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:43 pm

The wizards need to try and get in on a mike miller deal.

Post #72 » by **nate33** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:44 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Also, I don't think Memphis got that raw of a deal. Philly didn't get much more for Iverson. The KG deal wasn't the boon for Minny that everyone thought it would be. Heck, the only reason why Seattle got as much as they did for Ray Allen was because Ainge was desperate to make a move.

Iverson was 31 at the time with 33,000 minutes under his belt. KG was 31 with 36000 minutes under his belt.

Gasol is 27 with 17000 minutes under his belt. That's a HUGE difference. Gasol should play at a high level for another 6-8 years. Iverson and KG have 2-3 years left.

Post #73 » by **miller31time** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:44 pm

fishercob wrote:Yep, Miami fans have to be pissed.

Sure, but I'd H-A-T-E to be a Bulls fan right now.

They were offering such a superior package that this blows my mind.

I guess Jerry West goes by the "Once a Laker, always a Laker" mantra.

Post #74 » by **miller31time** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:45 pm

yungal07 wrote:I would have traded Jamison to the Grizz for Gasol in a heartbeat. And they (the Grizz) would have done it too.

*sigh*

Me too.

Post #75 » by **magee** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:47 pm

Uhh, Jerry West isn't their GM anymore. it's Chris Wallace, the same man who traded away Joe Johnson in his rookie season for Rodney Rodgers and Tony Delk.

Post #76 » by **nate33** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:47 pm

tkunit wrote:The wizards need to try and get in on a mike miller deal.

Helping Memphis unload Miller might give them the cap room to go after Arenas.

Post #77 » by **miller31time** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:48 pm

magee wrote:Uhh, Jerry West isn't their GM anymore. it's Chris Wallace, the same man who traded away Joe Johnson in his rookie season for Rodney Rodgers and Tony Delk.

Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

That makes the trade all the more puzzling for Memphis...

Wiz99 · Post #78 » by **Wiz99** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 9:58 pm

nate33 wrote:The only rational explaination is that there is an under the table deal going on.

Stern must have promised them the #1 pick in the draft in exchange for this trade. Nothing else makes sense.

And with the #1 pick, the New York Knickerbockers select Patrick Ewing...

Wiz99 · Post #79 » by **Wiz99** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:01 pm

yungal07 wrote:I would have traded Jamison to the Grizz for Gasol in a heartbeat. And they (the Grizz) would have done it too.

*sigh*

I'm not gonna get too much into the merits of the AJ for Gasol thing, which was done to death in other threads and is now a moot point.

But a little part of me wonders if Abe Polin's obsession with loyalty forbade Grunfeld from talking to Memphis about moving AJ, or if EG had a chance to make something happen and didn't get it done.

Post #80 » by **miller31time** » Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:01 pm

nate33 wrote:Helping Memphis unload Miller might give them the cap room to go after Arenas.

Yeah, but they'd be so pitifully bad that Arenas wouldn't want to go there (especially since he could get the same amount of money and an extra year from us - a perennial playoff team).