HEAT @ BULLETS

Post #61 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:02 am

There's a perfect example. How does Gilbert leave their best 3pt shooter (Quinn) wide-open (ie: no player within 10-12ft) for a 3?

Why does Arenas feel such a burning need to help out the bigs inside?

WHY? WHY? WHY?!?!?!

newslowsad · Post #62 » by **newslowsad** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:03 am

Philly beats Atlanta to move into 5th place. Even if we hold on here, they have 5th by virtue of a better h2h record against us.

Post #63 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:03 am

Well, at least we have Hands11's dream lineup on the floor together.

Post #64 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:04 am

miller31time wrote:There's a perfect example. How does Gilbert leave their best 3pt shooter (Quinn) wide-open (ie: no player within 10-12ft) for a 3?

Why does Arenas feel such a burning need to help out the bigs inside?

WHY? WHY? WHY?!?!?!

Agreed. This has GOT to stop. I don't understand why an otherwise bright player can't figure this out.

EDIT:
Particularly against the Miami Heat who have absolutely no interior presence. I mean, who the heck is he doubling down on?

Post #65 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:09 am

Miami now has a franchise-high 18 three pointers made.

Can someone make sure to tell this to every Wizards guard/forward? Because, apparently, they think they're doing a good enough job outside that they can go help the guys inside who are doing a fine job on their own.

Post #66 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:11 am

On a brighter note, Arenas was uber-efficient on offense tonight.

21 minutes

13pts
8asts
5rebs

Per-40, that's basically 25pts, 15asts and 10rebs

newslowsad · Post #67 » by **newslowsad** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:12 am

Ricky Davis has nine 3's.

Post #68 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:13 am

Question: How do you know you're one of the worst perimeter defending teams in the league?

Answer: Ricky Davis goes 9/12 from downtown.

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That was fun. Let's try it again...

Question: How do you know you're one of the worst perimeter defending teams in the league?

Answer: You give up a franchise high amount of 3pters to the Miami freaking Heat.

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One more round. Let's switch up the question...

Question: How do you know the Miami Heat are historically bad?

Answer: They can have a franchise high in 3pters made, while having Ricky Davis go 9/12 from downtown and still lose by 15 or more points.

P'Oed · Post #69 » by **P'Oed** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:23 am

playoffs 4 years in a row fellas....i know its bittersweet but its quite an accomplishment after years and years of sucking. CELEBRATE! (kind of)

Post #70 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:25 am

P'Oed wrote:playoffs 4 years in a row fellas....i know its bittersweet but its quite an accomplishment after years and years of sucking. CELEBRATE! (kind of)

The playoff atmosphere is awesome and something I'm glad we're going through.

But with that said, if we can't get out of the first round, I'll be more than disappointed.

hands11 · Post #71 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:33 am

If this is a sign of the kind of baller GA is going to be the rest of the way, things are looking very sweet. This is exactly what I wanted.

CB's post game announcement. "If we keep our core players healthy, we are going to be dangerous. "

I have an strategy. Get BH to 10 pts as quickly as possible. He loves him some 2x 2x's so you know 10 rebounds are soon to follow.

3s were a problem but I'm not worried yet.

Game 2 of GA return wasn't about pts for GA. He got that last night. Tonight is was playing some CP3 ball and like I said, if he sets that as the standard, he can be CP3+. Considering CP3 is in the top 2 running for MVP, that seems like a smart style for GA to follow.

If this is why style he is going to play, then max contract is fine by me. Granted I want to see it a few more game but you get the idea.

We moved in the right direction tonight. The D will be the focus very shortly.

Nice cap for GA at 21 Mins.

Off the the playoffs we go. They have to get a bump out of this win.

We have a lot to accomplish is only a few games but I like what I saw tonight. It was a step.

Actually no having AJ healthy tonight was a plus. It was easy to integrate CB and GA and the rest of the team without AJ. That is still a challenge that lies ahead. Lots of work to still get done.

GO WIZ

newslowsad · Post #72 » by **newslowsad** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:47 am

man, did you guys just see the dagger piece on csn? amazing.

dobrojim · Post #73 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:36 am

ho hum

they did what they needed to do

they were on cruise control the whole 2nd half and MIA never
got closer than 9, even with all the made 3s.

6 more games, Gil should be much closer to being Gil then.

gotta win the head to head vs PHL. That said, winding up 6th
wouldn't be so bad staying away from BOS until the ec finals.

dandridge 10 · Post #74 » by **dandridge 10** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 1:12 pm

miller31time wrote:There's a perfect example. How does Gilbert leave their best 3pt shooter (Quinn) wide-open (ie: no player within 10-12ft) for a 3?

Why does Arenas feel such a burning need to help out the bigs inside?

WHY? WHY? WHY?!?!?!

Its not just Arenas. Everyone else does it as well. Whenever any opposing player penetrates against the Wiz or the ball gets dumped down to a post player, the entire team collapses in the paint. I think this stems from a few years back when we allowed two many lay-ups. E.J. changed his defensive philosophy to focus on protecting the paint and preventing lay-ups at all costs. The problem is that there is no reason for weakside defenders to collapse in the paint when their man stays on the perimeter. Its ok to sag off your man if you are a weakside defender, but you have to be in a position to recover. The Wiz players just get caught to far in the paint to do that. Arenas constantly does that, but so does Caron, AD, AJ and the rest of the players.

The thing is that this is defense 101. Its one of the first things I teach the kids I coach. If the ball is on the other side of the court, there is no need to play your man tight. You can sag into the middle a little, but you always have to keep your eye on your man and be in a position to recover if the ball gets swung back around.

If I was a scout for opposing teams, I would just tell my players to just penetrate and kick against the Wizards. An open shot will always be there.

hands11 · Post #75 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:49 pm

Rafael122 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Talk to me when Gilbert gets 20 assists in a game, or 16. He will never be a Chris Paul type PG. Ever.

blah blah blah

hands11 · Post #76 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 2:57 pm

miller31time wrote:On a brighter note, Arenas was uber-efficient on offense tonight.

21 minutes

13pts
8asts
5rebs

Per-40, that's basically 25pts, 15asts and 10rebs

yeah, that's nothing like what CP is doing. I don't know what I was thinking. You guys are obviously all over this.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #77 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 3:08 pm

Chris Paul does that against the elite teams of the West. Gilbert didn't even do it first of all and second thats against the Miami Heat.

You're idea of Arenas becoming like CP3 is absolutely ridiculous and you're probably the only NBA fan who thinks Arenas can come close to being the player Paul is. This is no shot at Gil because he himself is an elite player in this league but

1. Our offense doesn't require Gil to be Chris Paul type
2. Chris Paul is on a team thats much less talented than the Wiz and is still doing heck of a lot better. This all with a below average bench and only one other star player.

Post #78 » by **miller31time** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 3:32 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:Its not just Arenas. Everyone else does it as well. Whenever any opposing player penetrates against the Wiz or the ball gets dumped down to a post player, the entire team collapses in the paint. I think this stems from a few years back when we allowed two many lay-ups. E.J. changed his defensive philosophy to focus on protecting the paint and preventing lay-ups at all costs. The problem is that there is no reason for weakside defenders to collapse in the paint when their man stays on the perimeter. Its ok to sag off your man if you are a weakside defender, but you have to be in a position to recover. The Wiz players just get caught to far in the paint to do that. Arenas constantly does that, but so does Caron, AD, AJ and the rest of the players.

The thing is that this is defense 101. Its one of the first things I teach the kids I coach. If the ball is on the other side of the court, there is no need to play your man tight. You can sag into the middle a little, but you always have to keep your eye on your man and be in a position to recover if the ball gets swung back around.

If I was a scout for opposing teams, I would just tell my players to just penetrate and kick against the Wizards. An open shot will always be there.

I agree with everything you said.

Oh, and I didn't just mean Arenas does this. I realize the entire team does it. But Gilbert, on that particular play, just illustrated my point so perfectly.

Bex · Post #79 » by **Bex** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:18 pm

I found an interesting quote from Brendan Haywood in the Washington Post:

"Our defensive rotations have been slipping the last couple of weeks and now we are starting to let games slip away because of it. Somehow, we have to tighten up and start taking defense seriously again. It's not good enough to just score the ball."

Frankly, no surprise. Big Fellow speaks out the truth. The players, at least, seem to realize that this a major problem and without better rotations plus a much better defensive effort we won't make any noise in the postseason. Hopefully, Eddie and his Secretary of Defense, Randy Ayers, share that thinking and will try to fix it in the next 2 weeks.

And this problem is definitely not Gilbert's lonely fault. The whole team has played crappy defense ever since that Detroit-win. Time to turn it up.

hands11 · Post #80 » by **hands11** » Sat Apr 5, 2008 4:30 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Chris Paul does that against the elite teams of the West. Gilbert didn't even do it first of all and second thats against the Miami Heat.

You're idea of Arenas becoming like CP3 is absolutely ridiculous and you're probably the only NBA fan who thinks Arenas can come close to being the player Paul is. This is no shot at Gil because he himself is an elite player in this league.

"You're idea of Arenas becoming like CP3 is absolutely ridiculous and you're probably the only NBA fan who thinks Arenas can come close to being the player Paul is. "

First: Where in the hell do you come up with crap statements like this ?

Second: There isn't always a correlation between correctness and the number of people that see and believe it. I am very comfortable being in the minority view about something the masses haven't got on board with. It's called having insight. You may want to try it on for size if you can get the shoe to fit - lol