Political Roundtable Part XXIX

[Zonkerbl]

Sigh...

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Positive step. Let's keep fingers crossed this holds up.

Thank you! And welcome!

[Zonkerbl]

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Be a president who isn't so hated he has to hide in a bunker on election day

[dckingsfan]

Sigh...

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Positive step. Let's keep fingers crossed this holds up.

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[Wizardspride]

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[montestewart]

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It seems a lot of people have an interest in predicting just that, as politics and political prognostication all sound so much like Monday Night Raw these days. And it's working. I suggested to friends that I preferred to wait until Wednesday to react to post election violence, as so many things promised/threatened do not come to pass, and was scolded for downplaying the danger of Trump and followers. When I reminded that in DC it was likely not Trump's followers that would be breaking windows, I got more blowback. I imagine in red states it is similar, each side imagines armies of the worst images of the opposition.

I'll give Trump credit, he sure has whipped the country up into a severely divided frenzy, but I'm not yet seeing the making of civil unrest any worse than we've already seen this year. All the Trump supporters I know, including the gun owners, will be following the Trump rebellion online, so that rebel militia will have to come from somewhere else.

[dobrojim]

The right is scared **** and going nuts. This police response to a voter
rally in NC in which they used chemical weapons on women and children,
the campaign bus being harassed...these are crimes but one might wonder
who is going to bring justice. Not the police, that’s unlikely.

Had a zoom chat Friday with my daughter on her birthday. She related
some truly horrifying information about the murder of Karon Hilton
by MPD and to make matters worse, they then pepper sprayed his
grieving mother at a rally. The arc of justice better start bending soon.

[Zonkerbl]

Now we get to see all the crap Trump had prepared for when he lost 2016, except now with all the powers of the federal government behind him and a Republican Senate that has absolutely sold its soul to him.

[montestewart]

With many polls showing Biden leading Trump among military--enlisted, brass, and former--I still wonder about the possibility of Trump instigating the first military coup in U.S. history, or leaving office under threat of a coup.

[Kanyewest]

I am in a family pool where I have to predict the winners of each state between Biden/Trump- Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Georgia- I have an idea what I'm going to predict but anyone have any suggestions?

[Zonkerbl]

I am in a family pool where I have to predict the winners of each state between Biden/Trump- Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Georgia- I have an idea what I'm going to predict but anyone have any suggestions?

Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia are chalk

If you want to go out on a limb add NC and Texas. Turnout in Texas has been insane and Georgia has some insane talent getting out the vote right now, wouldn't count them out

[Pointgod]

I am in a family pool where I have to predict the winners of each state between Biden/Trump- Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Georgia- I have an idea what I'm going to predict but anyone have any suggestions?

Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina got to Biden. This is purely based on Democrats winning state wide in 2018
Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Texas, go to Trump

Upset special is Georgia.

[Ruzious]

More disgusting undermining of our elections by Trump in a tweet given a warning by Twitter:

The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one. It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!

[dobrojim]

Golfy McBonespurs is so freakin ignorant and/or such a ridiculous propagandist
trying to say the election result must be declared tonight although maybe it will
be, but not in the way he is publicly saying he expects. If Biden wins everything
HRC won plus WI and MI, tRump would have to win NC, GA, FL..pretty much all
the remaining swing states.

Very proud of DCK no matter how TX goes. THANK YOU.
We could get an early result if Biden gets any of GA, TX, NC or FL.

Fingers crossed that Beto, Abrams and Sharrod Brown all predicted
their home states accurately. If so, landslide.

[Zonkerbl]

Didn't flip the senate

May have lost the potus too

[queridiculo]

Didn't flip the senate

May have lost the potus too

You're being a tad optimistic there.

[doclinkin]

Ever since the switch to electronic voting, the polls don’t match the tally. Predictive polls or exit polls. Chump wanted mail in votes to be stifled so badly. There’s a reason for that. The billionaires and Chump’s Russian handlers assured him they can hack the vote if there’s no way to trace it. If it’s on paper, they can’t. Maybe there’s enough mail in votes yet to be counted to turn the tide. But these numbers simply do not look right. As usual.

[UcanUwill]

I usually do not watch very biased news, but I watch CNN right now, and it doesnt look too optimistic for people who want Trump out.

I wonder were all the attempts of Impeachment created a lot of Trump voters, because a lot of people still arent political at all, some people who vote dont know the difference between left and right, and I wonder were these past 4 years made Trump look like poor harassed underdog who needs support to the eyes of those people,

[doclinkin]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/exit-polls-president.html

I doubt it. The numbers suggest a country that tilts towards Biden. Non college educated white males are Chump's only solid voting bloc. I literally don't believe there are enough non college educated white males in the country to equal the numbers coming out of the machines.

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[Zonkerbl]

ok now that the dust has settled looks like Biden will probably win, assuming no successful shenanigans.

I guess the only thing I can be mad about is the polls had me expecting a Republican bloodbath and there wasn't, polls were way off, *again.* At least in the Senate races. But what that means is we aren't unfairly being dominated by a cheating minority so much as Republicans have outplayed the Dems. After all, fear and hate is a much easier sell than decency and science. So, yeah, the GOP played small ball in 2016, won three seats on the SCOTUS and it looks like they'll be able to hold on to that win indefinitely with legit Senate wins. Very discouraging.

Hoping the GOP at least starts taking COVID seriously. Can we at least do that.

I mean, we are a racist country with racist roots, and it's easy to tap into that, but I think it's more that fear and hate wins regardless of how fundamentally racist you are. It's how Hitler came to power, although the world was way more permissive of Hitler's message back then. The world is a *little* less racist now, but also more vulnerable - social media makes it easier to micro target people who are vulnerable to that strategy.

Dems spent, what, zero dollars on facebook ads? That's maybe one thing they could do better. Other than that it just looks like Republicans are playing with a stacked deck and superior talent, electoral college gives them a built in advantage, gerrymandering they did in 2010 gives them an advantage, decades of preparation to stack the courts was outstandingly successful, and their micro targeting of easily manipulated low information voters is working like a charm, particularly because their base is particularly easy to manipulate. They're just playing the game better at every position.

The one silver lining, I guess, is as frustrating as this election has been, if Biden wins it'll be the first incumbent POTUS since Carter to lose. That's a big accomplishment.