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I'd consider sending Davis to the G league and see if he can't regain his swagger. Jared Butler was impressive in both G-league and Summer league, Rollins has shown out in limited minutes, Davis has not. He needs to be able to be good somewhere, either at practice or going down, to earn minutes. Here are their G league stats from last year (Davis, Butler, Rollins).
2022-23 14G 25.2mpg 11.8pts 40.4fg% 35.8 3pt% 78.6ft% 4.1reb 2.2ast 1.9to 1.1st 0.4bl
2022-23 18G 30.0mpg 19.3pts 48.1fg% 45.8 3pt % 77.1ft% 3.7reb 5.5ast 2.9to 1.1st 0.3bl
2022-23 10G 28.4mpg 20.3pts 48.1fg% 36.7 3 pt% 71.4ft% 4.3reb 4.5ast 2.8to 0.9st 0.2bl
I'd consider sending Davis to the G league and see if he can't regain his swagger. Jared Butler was impressive in both G-league and Summer league, Rollins has shown out in limited minutes, Davis has not. He needs to be able to be good somewhere, either at practice or going down, to earn minutes. Here are their G league stats from last year (Davis, Butler, Rollins).
2022-23 14G 25.2mpg 11.8pts 40.4fg% 35.8 3pt% 78.6ft% 4.1reb 2.2ast 1.9to 1.1st 0.4bl
2022-23 18G 30.0mpg 19.3pts 48.1fg% 45.8 3pt % 77.1ft% 3.7reb 5.5ast 2.9to 1.1st 0.3bl
2022-23 10G 28.4mpg 20.3pts 48.1fg% 36.7 3 pt% 71.4ft% 4.3reb 4.5ast 2.8to 0.9st 0.2bl
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Those are numbers from about half of the G-league season.
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omg give up on this dude already
I've been taught all my life to value service to the weak and powerless.
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We picked up Johnny's option for next year, so it's obvious we're not giving up on him. Nor should we.
Johnny will always have been a mistake as a draft pick. But that doesn't mean he can't become a useful NBA player.
Johnny will always have been a mistake as a draft pick. But that doesn't mean he can't become a useful NBA player.
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NatP4 wrote:Those are numbers from about half of the G-league season.
Where can I find better ones?
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penbeast0 wrote:NatP4 wrote:Those are numbers from about half of the G-league season.
Where can I find better ones?
Change the “season type” drop down. For whatever reason, there’s different portions of the g league seasons like “showcase” “regular season” “ignite tour”.
https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player/1631098/traditional/?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season
Looks like Johnny played about 32 G-league games. I focus in on the last 10 or so games, in which he was very good, carried that over to a very good summer league and preseason/training camp. Started off solid in the regular season, then was dropped out of the rotation so that Landry Shamet can shoot 2-12 LOL.
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Thanks
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He needs minutes
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FAH1223 wrote:He needs minutes
Won't be until trading happens next month.
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Hidden Eye wrote:FAH1223 wrote:He needs minutes
Won't be until trading happens next month.
Delon Wright's injury was so unfortunate. He is the true prize among our expendable vets and probably could get back a decent return. But we won't be able to trade him until he is healthy and back to form.
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nate33 wrote:Hidden Eye wrote:FAH1223 wrote:He needs minutes
Won't be until trading happens next month.
Delon Wright's injury was so unfortunate. He is the true prize among our expendable vets and probably could get back a decent return. But we won't be able to trade him until he is healthy and back to form.
This season is not winning at all or playoffs the whole org top to bottom said that. Rather see Davis get minutes whole season and see what player he is. need Davis starting or get backup minutes. Shamet or Jones and out of those two rather see Jones traded. A lottery pick shouldn't be getting this much little playing time. Out of the draft picks past decade wizards had he's had the least amount of minutes barring injuries.
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Ooof maybe the worst player in NBA history
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Sheppard's tenure in a nutshell.
(What did you expect from the guy that was a major cog in wanting to select Vesely in back-to-back drafts )
(What did you expect from the guy that was a major cog in wanting to select Vesely in back-to-back drafts )
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Ugh:
https://gleague.nba.com/game/ccg-vs-iwa-2022300151?view=box-score
24 minutes, 4-13 FG (0-2 from 3), 0-1 (FT), 6 boards (2 offensive), 3 assists, 1 block, 1 TO, 8 points.
Maybe he puts it together after he gets some rust off after the injury. Still, I can't see him on the roster after this season.
https://gleague.nba.com/game/ccg-vs-iwa-2022300151?view=box-score
24 minutes, 4-13 FG (0-2 from 3), 0-1 (FT), 6 boards (2 offensive), 3 assists, 1 block, 1 TO, 8 points.
Maybe he puts it together after he gets some rust off after the injury. Still, I can't see him on the roster after this season.
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mhd wrote:Ugh:
https://gleague.nba.com/game/ccg-vs-iwa-2022300151?view=box-score
24 minutes, 4-13 FG (0-2 from 3), 0-1 (FT), 6 boards (2 offensive), 3 assists, 1 block, 1 TO, 8 points.
Maybe he puts it together after he gets some rust off after the injury. Still, I can't see him on the roster after this season.
We have already opted into the 3rd year of his rookie contract. (The decision had to be made LAST summer, which is kind of annoying.) So Davis will be around next year. I'm doubtful that they will pick up his 4th year option this summer, which will mean that Davis is expiring contract filler next year and an unrestricted free agent in 2025.
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nate33 wrote:mhd wrote:Ugh:
https://gleague.nba.com/game/ccg-vs-iwa-2022300151?view=box-score
24 minutes, 4-13 FG (0-2 from 3), 0-1 (FT), 6 boards (2 offensive), 3 assists, 1 block, 1 TO, 8 points.
Maybe he puts it together after he gets some rust off after the injury. Still, I can't see him on the roster after this season.
We have already opted into the 3rd year of his rookie contract. (The decision had to be made LAST summer, which is kind of annoying.) So Davis will be around next year. I'm doubtful that they will pick up his 4th year option this summer, which will mean that Davis is expiring contract filler next year and an unrestricted free agent in 2025.
I could see us cutting him if we want the roster spot. Heck, we cut Cooks, Taj, and Rollins (although they had relatively smaller salaries).
He can’t beat out Shamet. Shamet has a nice Novak contract with multiple team options. Plus, he can shoot and is surprisingly athletic out there.
At best, we will do another Bagley type trade and trade Davis as part of a BYOD trade
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mhd wrote:At best, we will do another Bagley type trade and trade Davis as part of a BYOD trade
This is what I expect will happen.
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In the realm of dribbles and dreams, there was a player named Johnny Davis,
He hit the court with gusto, but alas, NBA dreams were quite fallacious.
With sneakers snug and jersey on, he played with hopeful glee,
But his shots missed the mark, no swishes for Johnny to see.
Dribbling left, then dribbling right, a dance of awkward feet,
His layups resembled fumbles, oh, defeat, defeat, defeat!
His jump shot soared like a rainbow, reaching for the distant sky,
But it barely kissed the net, oh my, oh my, oh my!
Dreams of slam dunks and fame danced in Johnny's head,
But reality struck hard, like a ball that wildly fled.
On the bench, he sat forlorn, as coaches shook their heads,
"Sorry, Johnny, not NBA material," they said.
Yet, Johnny played on with a smile, embracing the game's grace,
For the love of basketball, in every court, in every space.
He might not join the pros, but in his heart, he knew,
Basketball, like life, is more than just what you can do.
So here's to Johnny Davis, not an NBA star,
But in our hearts, a champ, no matter where you are!
In the realm of dribbles and dreams, there was a player named Johnny Davis,
He hit the court with gusto, but alas, NBA dreams were quite fallacious.
With sneakers snug and jersey on, he played with hopeful glee,
But his shots missed the mark, no swishes for Johnny to see.
Dribbling left, then dribbling right, a dance of awkward feet,
His layups resembled fumbles, oh, defeat, defeat, defeat!
His jump shot soared like a rainbow, reaching for the distant sky,
But it barely kissed the net, oh my, oh my, oh my!
Dreams of slam dunks and fame danced in Johnny's head,
But reality struck hard, like a ball that wildly fled.
On the bench, he sat forlorn, as coaches shook their heads,
"Sorry, Johnny, not NBA material," they said.
Yet, Johnny played on with a smile, embracing the game's grace,
For the love of basketball, in every court, in every space.
He might not join the pros, but in his heart, he knew,
Basketball, like life, is more than just what you can do.
So here's to Johnny Davis, not an NBA star,
But in our hearts, a champ, no matter where you are!
Can't say I do. Who else gonna shoot?
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https://gleague.nba.com/game/ccg-vs-ima-2022300164?view=box-score
21 minutes, 2-11 (FG) (0-4 from 3), 2 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 foul, 2 Turnovers, 4 points
By contrast, Jared Butler had 30 points on 11-16 from the field including 3-4 from 3.