Wizards in the Media Thread

[LyricalRico]

^ Co-sign everything nate said.

[go'stags]

I guess I'm a little confused, Nate.

I just read in another thread where you said he was a good shooter, and that his post moves are terrible. Well even though I have seen him look very comfortable hitting that baseline turnaround over his left shoulder, I agree his jumper is ahead of his post moves. Which is why he can be a a PF right now. He also showed the ability to get to the rack from a little above the elbow last year, which is where the PF spends a lot of time in Flips offense.

And even at Center his pick-and-roll defense is going to be an issue. But if he is at PF next to Haywood it wont be as glaring as if he is at C.

Personally I feel as if our best chance to be a legit title contending force in the future is with McGee next to Haywood. Granted I am probably a bigger McGee fan than anyone else here, but being ahead of my time is a burden I'm willing to carry =).

I did say he has the makings of one day being a good shooter, and that his shooting is ahead of his post game. I didn't say he is a good shooter because currently, he isn't. Right now he has neither a shot or a post game. His only offensive advantage is when he outquicks his opponent and beats him to the rim on a one-dribble drive, a fast break, an alley oop, or an offensive board. In all four cases, I think his odds of beating his counterpart to the rim are greater when he is matched up against a center.

Defensively, he is a lousy post defender and a lousy help defender, but I think his help defense is ahead of his post defense. He can at least help on weakside shot blocking. Again, I think his skills are maximized at the center position rather than the power forward position.

I don't know, I guess I just disagree about his shooting right now. I think he can reliably hit the 18 footer right now. He hit some very tough jumpers this pre-season, not just from a stand still. Of course he also showed the ability to hit on a catch and shoot.

And i would agree he is a better help defender, which is exactly why he should be playing PF next to Haywood. BH anchors the defense, taking away a post threat, allowing Mcgee to use his length to challenge everything. I don't expect him to be all that effective in that role right now, at least not consistently, but that isn't a reason why he should be playing C and not PF.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Can someone explain to me why Javale cant play PF?

Missed defensive rotations don't count, because those are even more important to a center. So why cant McGee play PF?

He makes poor decisions with the ball and he can't shoot. He's also terrible at pick-and-roll defense. And offensively, his only "move" is to be more athletic than his counterpart so he can slash to the basket and catch an alley-oop, or outrun him on the fast break. It's much easier to outquick a center than a powerforward.

Why should he play PF?

I think he should play it before it gets ruled out.

For years I heard it was a ridiculous idea to have Jamison at SF or Butler at SG, but darned if Flip isn't open to do both.

I don't see where Javale can't shoot. I do agree that he's terrible defensively. I guess it is easier to outquick a C. At the same time, Javale can go right over virtually every PF. I also think he gets moved out of the way easily by heavier Cs.

The main reason why I'd like to see Javale at PF is because with Haywood at C, that's hell of a lot of size and athleticism on the court. I believe Javale does have the handles and he can hit the face up jumper. He'd get weakside blocks and his share of rebounds.


I don't know that he'd be effective at PF but 82games sure seems to indicate last season he was extremely effective at PF.

[malan331]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... PMW3SswJRM

Is Peter Vescey trying to make us feel bad about O-Pec? I'm beginning to think that he shouldn't have been throw away or thrown in with that trade.

[nate33]

I don't know that he'd be effective at PF but 82games sure seems to indicate last season he was extremely effective at PF.

When did McGee play PF last year? Under what circumstance would have have been labeled the "center"? Last year, he played alongside either Blatche, Songaila or Jamison. In all configurations, he was the "center". The 82games.com data must be wrong. The only time he could have conceivably been labeled a PF is during the 7 games that Haywood played. And I don't recall seeing McGee and Haywood together. If they were, it was for less than 10 total minutes.

My guess is that in the the Blatche/McGee front court, 82games considered McGee the power forward... which is false.

[fishercob]

I don't get the need to pigeon-hole McGee as one thing or another. He's got so much to improve on -- on both ends of the floor -- that I'm not really sure it matters what he is right now. I definitely see the point of those that think his future may be at PF; despite his height, his body type may be more prototypical to PF than C.

What usually makes a guy a center? I'd say his size (both height and girth) , some semblance of a back-to-the-basket post game and/or the inability to keep up with forwards athletically. Well right now, Javale has no post game. And he can run the court with most PF's. Offensively, most of his points come at point blank range, but not as a result of post moves. And he's showing signs of a soft, reliable face-up jumper.

I'm not -- repeat NOT -- comparing him to KG. But keep in mind that KG's one of the greatest PF's of all time and his offensive game is mostly jumpers (with dunks, tips, and some post game sprinkled in).

His position is going to depend on his development. What if he can't pack on any more weight? What he that faceup becomes reliable and he develops a turn-around to boot, but not much else. I think time will tell with McGee and that there's little value in disqualifying him from wither spot at this stage.

[closg00]

Can someone explain to me why Javale cant play PF?

Missed defensive rotations don't count, because those are even more important to a center. So why cant McGee play PF?

He makes poor decisions with the ball and he can't shoot. He's also terrible at pick-and-roll defense. And offensively, his only "move" is to be more athletic than his counterpart so he can slash to the basket and catch an alley-oop, or outrun him on the fast break. It's much easier to outquick a center than a powerforward.

Why should he play PF?

I think he should play it before it gets ruled out.

For years I heard it was a ridiculous idea to have Jamison at SF or Butler at SG, but darned if Flip isn't open to do both.

I don't see where Javale can't shoot. I do agree that he's terrible defensively. I guess it is easier to outquick a C. At the same time, Javale can go right over virtually every PF. I also think he gets moved out of the way easily by heavier Cs.

The main reason why I'd like to see Javale at PF is because with Haywood at C, that's hell of a lot of size and athleticism on the court. I believe Javale does have the handles and he can hit the face up jumper. He'd get weakside blocksh and his share of rebounds.


I don't know that he'd be effective at PF but 82games sure seems to indicate last season he was extremely effective at PF.

Agree with you and Fish, don't put McGee in a box. We have some really good opportunites to pair McGee with Haywood and wreak some havoc, but the dude had to get some minutes to progress. Tonight may be his opportunity.

[fishercob]

Just in case anyone doesn't know about them, bulletsforever.com and truthaboutit.net are great sites for hardcore Wiz fans.

I now have a Twitter account for the sole purpose of following the Wiz/NBA. I signed up over the summer and just followed Ric Bucher during free agency. This morning I added Mike Lee, Mike Jones, David Aldridge and BUllets Forever (couldn't find truthaboutit).

Waiting for the tweet saying Caron is fine and will be in the lineup tonight (prays).

[Pradamaster]

Just in case anyone doesn't know about them, bulletsforever.com and truthaboutit.net are great sites for hardcore Wiz fans.

I now have a Twitter account for the sole purpose of following the Wiz/NBA. I signed up over the summer and just followed Ric Bucher during free agency. This morning I added Mike Lee, Mike Jones, David Aldridge and BUllets Forever (couldn't find truthaboutit).

Waiting for the tweet saying Caron is fine and will be in the lineup tonight (prays).

Appreciate that, fish.

You can find Truth About It at @Truth_About_It. You probably didn't include the underscores.

By the way, thought I read somewhere you're a JDS grad. I'm class of 05. When'd you graduate?

[fishercob]

94. I had no idea you were so young; you write like a grown-up

[fishercob]

SteinBog stoking the flames of the Wiz-Cavs rivalry. Love it:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcspor ... r_cle.html

[go'stags]

That is why I never stopped liking DeShawn. Maybe he cannot shoot at times, but he is tough, doesn't give a ****, and, most importantly, dislikes LeBron as much as I do.

Go DeShawn.

[LyricalRico]

SteinBog stoking the flames of the Wiz-Cavs rivalry. Love it:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcspor ... r_cle.html

Stevenson: "I don't do lakes."

[JWizmentality]

SteinBog stoking the flames of the Wiz-Cavs rivalry. Love it:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcspor ... r_cle.html

Stevenson: "I don't do lakes."

I caught that too.

[BanndNDC]

94. I had no idea you were so young; you write like a grown-up

really. oh my. did you play for them?

[fishercob]

94. I had no idea you were so young; you write like a grown-up

really. oh my. did you play for them?

I did. Let me guess -- Field? Burke? WIS?

[BanndNDC]

I did. Let me guess -- Field? Burke? WIS?

what, no GDS, St. Andrew's, Model or Hebrew Academy? All I'm gonna say is not Field and not GDS. That should be more than enough clues.

[fishercob]

Call it an educated guess based on your online persona. Your anonymity is clearly pretty important to you if you don't want it known what PVAC school you went to 15 years ago. lol

[Zerocious]

Subnation

Hated? by who? according to quotes form cleveland players, not them. the rest of the nation then? WTF

[closg00]

My teammate Brendan Haywood was wondering the other day about our team possibly being cursed, looking at all the things we’ve had to go through. I have to disagree with Brendan.

http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/butler ... rses-here/

Caron on Hoops Hype.