Is Wall Top 5 PG?

[CobraCommander]

Curry hasn't played more than 200 minutes without draymond this season...out of the 1700 minutes he played he hasn't played 200 minutes without draymond....that like 80% or something....
Klay had a bad game...they tried to give him the green light he didn't succeed, they still won defensively...
Draymond pretty much plays the most minutes every game...he does all the intangible work on the offense and defensive end...

Curry plays mostly all his minutes with draymond on the floor that's why his stats look good defensively that's why his numbers look so impactful...

This Draymond Green love (from you and others) is really getting out of hand. He's a terrific defensive player, but his offensive impact is overrated. Many of Draymond's assists are really a result of Curry.

The guy that hands curry the ball anywhere on the court gets an assist...

[TheSecretWeapon]

And if you squeezed her finger ???

Heh. Never tried it.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Curry always been an efficient 3pt shooter
It's his 7th year in the league, He's been a starter his whole Career....why's he so good now? Is it the shoes? Is he finally 100% healthy after 7 years???

It's draymond 4th, draymond became a starter last year...
They won they're 1st championship last year...

U take draymond from that team they're not in okc/spurs/Cle,..... tier...especially in the playoffs...

Curry is good but defense wins rings...
Btw a 6'7 240 pf is leading this team in assists, rebounds, and blocks....and can guard 1-5...

Draymond is the 2016 magic johnson...
Curry is the 3pt shooting iverson....who happens to have tmac and magic on his team

Holy crap you're bad at this.

[deneem4]

Curry always been an efficient 3pt shooter
It's his 7th year in the league, He's been a starter his whole Career....why's he so good now? Is it the shoes? Is he finally 100% healthy after 7 years???

It's draymond 4th, draymond became a starter last year...
They won they're 1st championship last year...

U take draymond from that team they're not in okc/spurs/Cle,..... tier...especially in the playoffs...

Curry is good but defense wins rings...
Btw a 6'7 240 pf is leading this team in assists, rebounds, and blocks....and can guard 1-5...

Draymond is the 2016 magic johnson...
Curry is the 3pt shooting iverson....who happens to have tmac and magic on his team

Holy crap you're bad at this.

The last paragraph is opinion but Warriors didnt win it all til draymond started

[montestewart]

There was a law student I once knew. She was convinced that after a car accident she could squeeze a certain spot on her arm and it would cause her to fart. She believed -- truly believed -- that a) the car accident had caused this phenomena; b) that it was real; and c) that IF she squeezed the spot and DIDN'T fart, it was because she wasn't squeezing in exactly the right place. She'd seen herself the squeeze-fart cause-effect. No amount of logical explanation could dissuade her of this belief, although a very good friend of mine tried.

Right now, I'm very much reminded of that woman.

I remember her! Windy, right?

[montestewart]

Draymond is the 2016 magic johnson…

OK, wait a minute, I thought your whole "argument" was that Draymond Green was a great defensive player and that his great defensive ability masks Curry's defensive deficiencies; however, the eye test now tells me that cannot at all be the argument, because you just likened Green to Magic Johnson. (Please excuse my use of capital letters. I knew the original MJ before he went all lower case.)

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I think he was just implying that Green has AIDS.

[payitforward]

There was a law student I once knew. She was convinced that after a car accident she could squeeze a certain spot on her arm and it would cause her to fart. She believed -- truly believed -- that a) the car accident had caused this phenomena; b) that it was real; and c) that IF she squeezed the spot and DIDN'T fart, it was because she wasn't squeezing in exactly the right place. She'd seen herself the squeeze-fart cause-effect. No amount of logical explanation could dissuade her of this belief, although a very good friend of mine tried.

Right now, I'm very much reminded of that woman.

Yeah, but did it matter one way or the other if Draymond was in the game?

[TheSecretWeapon]

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[TheSecretWeapon]

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[Ruzious]

Still stunned at the comparison of Green to Magic. Green's real good, but they're not at all even the same types of players.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Still stunned at the comparison of Green to Magic. Green's real good, but there not at all even the same types of players.

What's funny is the Curry/Iverson comparison is the one that has me scratching my head. I ran Curry's 2014-15 season through the statistical doppelganger machine, and basically there's nothing like him since 1977-78. "Most similar" are still pretty different, and it's himself in 2013-14, Terrell Brandon in 1995-96, and Kevin Durant last season before he got hurt. But the only season vaguely similar to Curry's 2014-15 season was Curry's 2013-14 season. Iverson's most similar season to Curry's 2014-15 ranks as 520th "most similar." Which is to say, not similar at all.

For Green's 2014-15 season, it's similar in the sense that he's kind of a unicorn. Closest season to his is one from Scott Burrell in 1994-95, but it's really not that close, and Burrell wasn't as good. Kawhi Leonard shows up, but again there's some real distance between the two. Magic's most similar season to Green's 2014-15 is roughly the 2500th "most similar" to Green. In other words, not very damn much alike.

Maybe tomorrow I'll run the machine on 2015-16 if I get time to transfer over the data.

[montestewart]

Still stunned at the comparison of Green to Magic. Green's real good, but there not at all even the same types of players.

What's funny is the Curry/Iverson comparison is the one that has me scratching my head. I ran Curry's 2014-15 season through the statistical doppelganger machine, and basically there's nothing like him since 1977-78. "Most similar" are still pretty different, and it's himself in 2013-14, Terrell Brandon in 1995-96, and Kevin Durant last season before he got hurt. But the only season vaguely similar to Curry's 2014-15 season was Curry's 2013-14 season. Iverson's most similar season to Curry's 2014-15 ranks as 520th "most similar." Which is to say, not similar at all.

For Green's 2014-15 season, it's similar in the sense that he's kind of a unicorn. Closest season to his is one from Scott Burrell in 1994-95, but it's really not that close, and Burrell wasn't as good. Kawhi Leonard shows up, but again there's some real distance between the two. Magic's most similar season to Green's 2014-15 is roughly the 2500th "most similar" to Green. In other words, not very damn much alike.

Maybe tomorrow I'll run the machine on 2015-16 if I get time to transfer over the data.

Run it for Klay and T-Mac. I'm sure they will prove doppelgangbangers

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Klay couldn't hold TMac's jockstrap. I know that because I've tried.

[Ruzious]

Still stunned at the comparison of Green to Magic. Green's real good, but there not at all even the same types of players.

What's funny is the Curry/Iverson comparison is the one that has me scratching my head. I ran Curry's 2014-15 season through the statistical doppelganger machine, and basically there's nothing like him since 1977-78. "Most similar" are still pretty different, and it's himself in 2013-14, Terrell Brandon in 1995-96, and Kevin Durant last season before he got hurt. But the only season vaguely similar to Curry's 2014-15 season was Curry's 2013-14 season. Iverson's most similar season to Curry's 2014-15 ranks as 520th "most similar." Which is to say, not similar at all.

For Green's 2014-15 season, it's similar in the sense that he's kind of a unicorn. Closest season to his is one from Scott Burrell in 1994-95, but it's really not that close, and Burrell wasn't as good. Kawhi Leonard shows up, but again there's some real distance between the two. Magic's most similar season to Green's 2014-15 is roughly the 2500th "most similar" to Green. In other words, not very damn much alike.

Maybe tomorrow I'll run the machine on 2015-16 if I get time to transfer over the data.

Run it for Klay and T-Mac. I'm sure they will prove doppelgangbangers

pfffft! They used to call Klay "Lil TMac". I kid you yes.

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Kevin, it's probably a moot point as far as from the Wizards drafting; but, I wonder how valuable Buddy Hield and other prolific, efficient, NCAA high-volume three-point shooters will be in the NBA?

I'm starting to think guards should be valued higher than big men on draft night.

[deneem4]

I didn't feel comfortable comparing draymond to lebron
Didn't feel comfortable comparing klay to anybody but tmac...
Iverson was deadly without the team curry has...

Whenever a player is really good everyone downplays the effect of their teammates...draymond is a dpoty candidate for 2 years running....
Klay is probably the 2nd best shooter in the league and has been since curry became the best...kd can contest but I think he's a better all around scorer than both in my opinion...

This Warriors team is built 100% around curry...he's suppose to be this good offensively...it would be a crime if he wasn't...
Curry the top offensive guy in the league
Klay in the top 10 offensively and top 5 defensive sg
Draymond is in the top 2 defensively
Igu is still top 10 defensively
Bogut is a top 10 defensive big still

Don't downplay the team...curry is good but there's a weapon wherever offensively or defensively at every position on this roster

[TheSecretWeapon]

Ran Klay from last season through the doppleganger machine. Another pretty unique statistical profile, though not quite the unicorn that Curry and Green were. His closest comps were Ray Allen, Reggie Miller and Jason Richardson (age 30 season). Only Ray Allen (2001-02) was kinda-sorta close. McGrady's most similar season to Klay's 2014-15 was 2004-2005 -- the 147th "most similar" according to The Machine.

[dlts20]

Was thinking recently about Wall's lack of defense and playing hard om that end. In his defense do you think it has to do with the new uptempo system combined with all the games loss due to injury which means he had to be a one man show and carry us alot while we play at a crazy fast pace and always at the top of the league at touches per game because he has to create for everyone? Maybe he felt like he has to slack on D because he has to save himself for O due to all of those circumstances

[CobraCommander]

Was thinking recently about Wall's lack of defense and playing hard om that end. In his defense do you think it has to do with the new uptempo system combined with all the games loss due to injury which means he had to be a one man show and carry us alot while we play at a crazy fast pace and always at the top of the league at touches per game because he has to create for everyone? Maybe he felt like he has to slack on D because he has to save himself for O due to all of those circumstances

In a word...Yes-

At this point Wall needs help...someone to step up and be better than him. We need another superstar if you want to compete in the league.