Round 2, Game 3: BOUNCE BACK! Pacers @ Wizards 8 PM ESPN 5/9

[Deivy202]

People dont wanna admit it but beal and wall are overrated. I mean wall jump shotd are never good he hits better with threes but his threes are the longest ever to set his feet.he improved as a passer and increased his shots but imo not an allstar hes an good player visa versa with beal hes a good shooter but than again he will have a 6/19 day but ill cut him slack


I wamt cousins or melo this off season we need an elite player or a very good player in cousins who has elite potential. .....**** dude had 20 ppg11 rebounds last season

Unless wall shioting jumps shotd alot we will lose. I also dislike his buzzer beater for tje last second he isnt clutch im sorry give it to beal

[bananabucket]

Wittman is getting embarrassed. His answer in the press conference? "We have to play harder".

He should be honest, we just don't have the roster...

bull, Washington has every bit as much talent as the Pacers.

Washington not being able to eclipse 70 points has nothing to do with the roster, ZIP!

really hoping this is sarcasm

[Deivy202]

Last series nene and ariza and some of beal was depended on. Wall has to take over like westbrook.......idc if wall went 5/30 going to the rack the pacers are sensative in getting fouls .

[Deivy202]

He should be honest, we just don't have the roster...

bull, Washington has every bit as much talent as the Pacers.

Washington not being able to eclipse 70 points has nothing to do with the roster, ZIP!

really hoping this is sarcasm

I agree with you

[noworriesinmd]

Can't believe the change in mood on this board. We went from a super team to the worst team in the league.


Unfortunately, I thought the Pacers would win in 5 (documented before the series started). I hope I'm wrong. I really wanted to get them in the first round. We could have knocked them out. I was afraid this team would start the believe all the hype. They are better, but I'm not sure they are mentally better (coaching). Game 2 should have been a W..period. Game 3, they just embarrassed themselves. They didn't even show up.

This game was HORRIBLE. I started to fall asleep at the game. In the first half it was like a lid was on the basket. There were a lot of balls that just rimmed out. These were shots that normally go in. Games like that happen every now and them..no big deal...but the second half was worst.

There was a stretch that I think Wall and the Wiz missed 3 or 4 FTs in a row. Wall walked to the line like he didn't care. Totally unacceptable.

The crowd was loud in the beginning, but this team gave ZERO reasons for the passion to continue. You can get rowdy if you know your team is trying...the Wiz didn't appear to try. There was little energy from this team. The only person getting hyped was Gooden and Ariza. Everyone else...blahhh. Site note: I really don't want to loose Ariza. He does so many little things. Check out his OR's and put backs the first half. Without him, it would have been worse.

Fan's actually started to boo the team. I mean how could you come home and give your fans this type of game.?!!!

I also noticed that we constantly made 1 pass too many. Every big had oil on their hands. Sometimes you have to finish. Indy is starting to block the passing lanes also people were dropping balls they normally catch.

I'm tired of Beal dribbling...because he can't. Zero ball skills. I think he's fallen...like on his a$4 while dribbling..3 or 4 times a game. It's painful to watch.

My biggest concern is BB and JW. The only thing that kills chemistry is ego. I hope I'm wrong, but my wife noticed this too. Wall was calling hard for the ball multiple times and Beal just ignored him. After a few times of that, Wall started to play 'hero ball".

After the game, people were pissed. It's not because the Wiz lost...but because the product was Horrible. I think a lot of people will jump off the bandwagon after this loss. You only get to make a first impression once. #sowizards.

[noworriesinmd]

People dont wanna admit it but beal and wall are overrated. I mean wall jump shotd are never good he hits better with threes but his threes are the longest ever to set his feet.he improved as a passer and increased his shots but imo not an allstar hes an good player visa versa with beal hes a good shooter but than again he will have a 6/19 day but ill cut him slack


I wamt cousins or melo this off season we need an elite player or a very good player in cousins who has elite potential. .....**** dude had 20 ppg11 rebounds last season

Unless wall shioting jumps shotd alot we will lose. I also dislike his buzzer beater for tje last second he isnt clutch im sorry give it to beal

I disagree...People have told me I'm wrong, but I believe Wall is and will be the best player on this team (as constructed now).

He has incredible handles.
He is an elite defender (watch beal defend...he's behind his man a lot vs Wall who is normally locked in).
He is fast (he's starting to build different gears)
He's jumpshot sucks...but it is improving.

Wall can be something special.

[noworriesinmd]

I'll start this with first acknowledging the Wiz were awful...no excuse for that.

But the refs...ugh yuk! Adam Silver was throwing hand signals to the officiating crew. Gotta get that indy mia match up. My first ever posting about refs sucking/conspiracy/bias. But jeez, they did everything possible to not allow washington to slow indy momentum.

The refs were really really bad...but they are not the reason why this team lost the game. The refs were pretty liberal until late 3rd quarter, when you could tell the Wiz were getting frustrated. There were some Indy fouls that could have been call flagrant...but the Wiz still would have lost.

[montestewart]

Who were those announcers last night? Two of the most boring, lifeless, trite-comment-making announcers I've ever heard. I hope I never hear either of them again.

*Sorry in advance if anyone here is related to either of them.

[Illmatic12]

Who were those announcers last night? Two of the most boring, lifeless, trite-comment-making announcers I've ever heard. I hope I never hear either of them again.

*Sorry in advance if anyone here is related to either of them.

In all fairness, they had NOTHING to talk about based on the play on the court..

[montestewart]

Who were those announcers last night? Two of the most boring, lifeless, trite-comment-making announcers I've ever heard. I hope I never hear either of them again.

*Sorry in advance if anyone here is related to either of them.

In all fairness, they had NOTHING to talk about based on the play on the court..

Game sucked, but seriously, would, you go to dinner with either one?

"Turnovers lead to points." Is there some rule in announcing that no matter how stupid your comment, it is better than no comment at all?

[Illmatic12]

Who were those announcers last night? Two of the most boring, lifeless, trite-comment-making announcers I've ever heard. I hope I never hear either of them again.

*Sorry in advance if anyone here is related to either of them.

In all fairness, they had NOTHING to talk about based on the play on the court..

Game sucked, but seriously, would, you go to dinner with either one?

"Turnovers lead to points." Is there some rule in announcing that no matter how stupid your comment, it is better than no comment at all?

I'd let Doris Burke by me dinner *shrugs*



No but really, most of the people TNT/ESPN trot out as "analysts" and "commentators" are pretty painful to listen to. At least we didn't have to suffer through Jon Barry or Reggie Miller

[Dat2U]

I thought that we finally saw the real Indiana Pacers last night and the Wizards were not prepared for it. They weren't ready for the physicality and they weren't ready for Hibbert at his best defensively. They also died by the jumpshot and with the inability to respond to being punched in the face.

Gortat reminded me why I didn't want to resign him. Nene's lack of consistency has been a career trademark. Hill simply outplays Wall on a consistent basis despite Wall being the more heralded player. I mentioned this during the regular season. At some point Wall has to begin dominating inferior talent. Hill has outplayed him in every game by a fairly wide margin. As a big John Wall fan that's tough for me to come to grips with.

Finally, I hate what were doing offensively. I'll scream if I see another Beal led pick & roll. I was fine with it as a change up but nothing is worse than Wall becoming a spectator at the 3 pt line while Beal runs the pick & roll like a drunken sailor most of the time. How many bad entry passes to bigs does he have to make before we go away from it? I think its time to spread the floor, go small and let John iso whoever is guarding him. Live and die with your best player creating off the dribble. Implore him to attack, attack, attack no matter what. I'd live with the high TO numbers if were consistently breaking down the D and getting good shots.

[dlts20]

People dont wanna admit it but beal and wall are overrated. I mean wall jump shotd are never good he hits better with threes but his threes are the longest ever to set his feet.he improved as a passer and increased his shots but imo not an allstar hes an good player visa versa with beal hes a good shooter but than again he will have a 6/19 day but ill cut him slack


I wamt cousins or melo this off season we need an elite player or a very good player in cousins who has elite potential. .....**** dude had 20 ppg11 rebounds last season

Unless wall shioting jumps shotd alot we will lose. I also dislike his buzzer beater for tje last second he isnt clutch im sorry give it to beal

lets not get crazy. Wall most certainly is an All Star. Sadly for us he either hit the wall or a bad slump 5 games before the playoffs started. For a whole 2 plus months before that he was 20 & 9 on nearly 46% shooting. If thats not an All Star then IDK what is. Hopefully he can break out of it soon. If he does then the whole team looks better

[dlts20]

I thought that we finally saw the real Indiana Pacers last night and the Wizards were not prepared for it. They weren't ready for the physicality and they weren't ready for Hibbert at his best defensively. They also died by the jumpshot and with the inability to respond to being punched in the face.

Gortat reminded me why I didn't want to resign him. Nene's lack of consistency has been a career trademark. Hill simply outplays Wall on a consistent basis despite Wall being the more heralded player. I mentioned this during the regular season. At some point Wall has to begin dominating inferior talent. Hill has outplayed him in every game by a fairly wide margin. As a big John Wall fan that's tough for me to come to grips with.

Finally, I hate what were doing offensively. I'll scream if I see another Beal led pick & roll. I was fine with it as a change up but nothing is worse than Wall becoming a spectator at the 3 pt line while Beal runs the pick & roll like a drunken sailor most of the time. How many bad entry passes to bigs does he have to make before we go away from it? I think its time to spread the floor, go small and let John iso whoever is guarding him. Live and die with your best player creating off the dribble. Implore him to attack, attack, attack no matter what. I'd live with the high TO numbers if were consistently breaking down the D and getting good shots.

Nah, I dont agree. Ive seen this too many times from the Wiz during the season. This was just one of those crappy slumps they get into. You could see it coming the way they choked down the stretch of the previous game. Then coming back home always makes them tight for some reason. I think all that actually gave Indy confidence and made them start to feel like they were back but the Wiz wouldve sucked against anyone yesterday. This is one of those games where they wouldve lost even to the Bucks at home like the regular season. Indy was sucking themselves until the 2nd half. We just stayed in suck mode the whole game

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

no question we stunk and got worse as the game proceeded

but I thought that was one of the most flagrantly biased reffed games
i'd seen since Kings-Lakers or Wade/refs vs Mavs. It got into our heads.
We lost poise and composure and the shots we did get, sometimes half decent
ones, we choked on.

I didn't boo except at just awful calls/no calls.

I truly question, given where we currently are mentally, whether we can
win another game. It hurts when you drag yourself there literally on ONE leg
to see a garbage game like that. Credit the Pacers. They looked pretty much like
the team that dominated the league for 3.5 months. And we reverted to the team
that puttered along most of the season alternating good games with bad games.

Hill outplayed Wall again. The Wiz won't win any games when that happens.

And I thought we traded Ves. Nene was never a great FT shooter but OMfreakinG.
I was ready for Witt to play Seraphin. I'm not sure I don't feel that way. I do agree
with Witt going Gooden>>Booker in this series. Gooden has done a solid job.

we wilted under pressure. Maybe we can put together one more decent game
Sunday.

Nene is missing FTs and he's lost his midrange touch. Gortat's giving up too much strength at both ends to Gortat. Those two IMO are no more effective than Gooden with Seraphin or Harrington.

As for George on Beal, Wittman needs to sub Webster at SG more when Beal plays out of control.

The Wizards are in trouble. John Wall looks like anything but a superstar.

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[hands11]

Can't believe the change in mood on this board. We went from a super team to the worst team in the league.


Unfortunately, I thought the Pacers would win in 5 (documented before the series started). I hope I'm wrong. I really wanted to get them in the first round. We could have knocked them out. I was afraid this team would start the believe all the hype. They are better, but I'm not sure they are mentally better (coaching). Game 2 should have been a W..period. Game 3, they just embarrassed themselves. They didn't even show up.

This game was HORRIBLE. I started to fall asleep at the game. In the first half it was like a lid was on the basket. There were a lot of balls that just rimmed out. These were shots that normally go in. Games like that happen every now and them..no big deal...but the second half was worst.

There was a stretch that I think Wall and the Wiz missed 3 or 4 FTs in a row. Wall walked to the line like he didn't care. Totally unacceptable.

The crowd was loud in the beginning, but this team gave ZERO reasons for the passion to continue. You can get rowdy if you know your team is trying...the Wiz didn't appear to try. There was little energy from this team. The only person getting hyped was Gooden and Ariza. Everyone else...blahhh. Site note: I really don't want to loose Ariza. He does so many little things. Check out his OR's and put backs the first half. Without him, it would have been worse.

Fan's actually started to boo the team. I mean how could you come home and give your fans this type of game.?!!!

I also noticed that we constantly made 1 pass too many. Every big had oil on their hands. Sometimes you have to finish. Indy is starting to block the passing lanes also people were dropping balls they normally catch.

I'm tired of Beal dribbling...because he can't. Zero ball skills. I think he's fallen...like on his a$4 while dribbling..3 or 4 times a game. It's painful to watch.

My biggest concern is BB and JW. The only thing that kills chemistry is ego. I hope I'm wrong, but my wife noticed this too. Wall was calling hard for the ball multiple times and Beal just ignored him. After a few times of that, Wall started to play 'hero ball".

After the game, people were pissed. It's not because the Wiz lost...but because the product was Horrible. I think a lot of people will jump off the bandwagon after this loss. You only get to make a first impression once. #sowizards.

Great write up.

It was a tough lose to take for fans because everything was set up for them and they laid an egg.

We were supposed to wake up this morning with them up 2-1 with another game at home lined up Sunday but instead Beal and Nene laid some serious poo on the court last night.

Only way this series was going to be easy was if Hibbert remained in hibernation and the IND team is disarray.

Well they have started to step it up after Hibbert had a break out game. Now its time for the Wizards to do the same.

In the playoffs, its always a one game series. First game is huge. You got up 1-0. Second game is huge, you win that, you pretty much have the series because you are 2-0. Tied up 1-1 and coming home, that a huge game because you are up 2-1 with another at home.

Well the next game is even bigger then that. They win, they stay in it. They lose, its pretty much over.

Now lets see what they are made of.

[omegatronic3]

"As for George on Beal, Wittman needs to sub Webster at SG more when Beal plays out of control."

I agree here...or make George run like crazy off screens. Send in Booker to knock him on his ass.

Let's be real Indiana is the #1 seed and is starting to find themselves. I guarantee it has to do with Andrew Bynum.
Either that or Hibbert's sports psychologist.

I don't like the Beal running the pick and roll experiment. There's a reason he's not a pg. That is a turnover waiting to happen. Beal just wasnt getting good looks last night and he's still best as a spot up shooter rather than
creator. I think we should have exploited the Ariza Stevenson matcheup more. If theyre gonna play George on Beal then we need to pust up Ariza.

To me wall is similar to Rajon Rondo. He does everything well but shoot. I think his shot is much improved though and I think hell continue to improve. Jason Kidd is a great example he couldnt shoot either until he got old and developed a 3pt shot.

Officiating was horrible. Nene got flat knocked on his ass a few times. He HAVE to continue to take it strong to the basket through. Wall needs to be agressive

[closg00]

"As for George on Beal, Wittman needs to sub Webster at SG more when Beal plays out of control."

I agree here...or make George run like crazy off screens. Send in Booker to knock him on his ass.

Let's be real Indiana is the #1 seed and is starting to find themselves. I guarantee it has to do with Andrew Bynum.
Either that or Hibbert's sports psychologist.

I don't like the Beal running the pick and roll experiment. There's a reason he's not a pg. That is a turnover waiting to happen. Beal just wasnt getting good looks last night and he's still best as a spot up shooter rather than
creator. I think we should have exploited the Ariza Stevenson matcheup more. If theyre gonna play George on Beal then we need to pust up Ariza.

To me wall is similar to Rajon Rondo. He does everything well but shoot. I think his shot is much improved though and I think hell continue to improve. Jason Kidd is a great example he couldnt shoot either until he got old and developed a 3pt shot.

Officiating was horrible. Nene got flat knocked on his ass a few times. He HAVE to continue to take it strong to the basket through. Wall needs to be agressive

Similar in-that Wall's game resembles a younger version of Rondo. What we are seeing now is player not capable of carrying his team or stepping-up on offense. Rondo knows how to probe, keep defenses on their toes, and all-round make better decisions. John still needs to work on his all-round game with the assistance of the coaching staff.

[hands11]

I'll start this with first acknowledging the Wiz were awful...no excuse for that.

But the refs...ugh yuk! Adam Silver was throwing hand signals to the officiating crew. Gotta get that indy mia match up. My first ever posting about refs sucking/conspiracy/bias. But jeez, they did everything possible to not allow washington to slow indy momentum.

The refs were really really bad...but they are not the reason why this team lost the game. The refs were pretty liberal until late 3rd quarter, when you could tell the Wiz were getting frustrated. There were some Indy fouls that could have been call flagrant...but the Wiz still would have lost.

I would disagree. I felt the refs were bad right from the tip. They missed several IND fouls and those early fouls often have a huge effect on the tone of the game.

Back to back Noah style moving picks by West and above the 3 pt line with the refs looking right at it.

Hibbert blocked Gortat but clobbered him in the body - 1 foul on Hibbert and 2 FT attempts for Gortat.

Then they called Wall on a push off on his drive. If just that short chicken wing body shot. Not an extended one, but the body to body one every good scorer does. The Melo move.

Then George come back on an iso on TA and clearly pushes off. Arm extended an all. Right in front of the ref and drains a 3.

6:40 Wall to Nene on a fast break and Nene gets clobbered by PG. Nothing. 2 FTs for Nene

Thats 2-3 fouls on West, 2 on Paul George, remove the 3 he made, 1 on Hibbert plus 1 less on Wall and TA. And 2 FT for Gortat, 2 for Nene.

Score was 17-17 after one. Easily could have been 19-14 with West and PG in foul trouble. Would have been a different game.

But after all of that and Beal being 0-3, they were still tied because TA was balling. He single handedly keep them in the game with offensive rebound and put backs. But that isn't TAs game.

But after all the Beal misses, Gortat got a dunk from a Beal pass and TA banked a 3 and the Wizards were up 15-10 with 3:25 to go.

Beal was terrible that last game. He was 0-4 in the first quarter and all were open looks.
Nene didn't play well either. They can't have that.

[AFM]

Glad I missed this one. In Cali.

What a turd.


Series over?