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Re: Tracking Former Wizards 3.0 

Post#621 » by DallasShalDune » Wed Feb 2, 2011 4:56 am

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/artic ... bro,19021/

Great piece of journalism on the descent (of the most descentiest kind) of Kwame Brown, which isn't really much of a descent I guess, since he's always been bad.
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Post#622 » by fishercob » Mon Feb 7, 2011 2:38 pm

Woj on Gilbert.

Ouch.

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Post#623 » by NbdyBeatsTheWiz » Mon Feb 7, 2011 4:00 pm

http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/picture-gilbert-arenas-served-court-papers-at-halftime-laura-govan-lying/51337

that's just grimey.

am I glad we traded Gil when we did? yes.
do I still like the guy? yes.
would i wish his last couple years on anybody? hell to the no.

he's made his fair share of mistakes that have come back to bite him, and it appears this woman was as big as any of them.
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Post#624 » by nate33 » Mon Feb 7, 2011 4:19 pm

NbdyBeatsTheWiz wrote:http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/picture-gilbert-arenas-served-court-papers-at-halftime-laura-govan-lying/51337

that's just grimey.

am I glad we traded Gil when we did? yes.
do I still like the guy? yes.
would i wish his last couple years on anybody? hell to the no.

he's made his fair share of mistakes that have come back to bite him, and it appears this woman was as big as any of them.

+1

This sad chapter in Arenas' life is becoming an entire book of its own. Arenas may or may not be broken physically, but it's looking more and more like he is broken emotionally. It just isn't right that such a nice, open-hearted guy has had to go through all of this.

My guess is that Laura Govan really knows how to push Arenas' buttons. Arenas' achilles heel has always been that he wants desperately to be liked by everyone. I'm sure Govan uses that against him any way she can. She plays on his insecurities and has crushed his confidence - not just as a basketball player, but as a human being. Arenas is a genuinely good guy and she has him believing he isn't.
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Post#625 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Feb 7, 2011 4:25 pm

Wow. Been there, doing that now. Words can't describe how sympathetic I feel. Hang in there, buddy.
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Post#626 » by willbcocks » Mon Feb 7, 2011 4:29 pm

Seemed like basketball was always his refuge, so hopefully it comes together for him and fast.

But when I watch that Orlando team--I dunno, I'm just not filled with hope, bunnies and sunshine. Instead I get the feeling the experiment won't work and dwight will head for brighter lights (not here mind).
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Post#627 » by nate33 » Mon Feb 7, 2011 4:53 pm

willbcocks wrote:I get the feeling the experiment won't work and dwight will head for brighter lights (not here mind).

If we could win 40 games or so next year and look like a team on the rise, I really think Washington could emerge as a realistic suitor for Howard. We'd have the cap room, a young, talented roster with upside, a good friend of Howard in Rashard Lewis (perhaps renegotiated on a longer term deal for less annual salary), and a few young pieces to send Orlando's way if a S&T is needed (McGee, Blatche, 2012 pick).

It would sure be nice to trot out this lineup in 2012:
PG Wall
SG Young
SF Lewis
PF D.Williams/Booker
C Howard/Seraphin

Unfortunately for now, there is no sign whatsoever that this team will turn the corner anytime soon. Howard won't come to join a 25-win team, no matter the "upside potential" of the roster. What we really need is for Wall to have a breakout 2nd year and lead us to the playoffs like Rose did last year.
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Post#628 » by AceDegenerate » Mon Feb 7, 2011 5:00 pm

nate33 wrote:
willbcocks wrote:I get the feeling the experiment won't work and dwight will head for brighter lights (not here mind).

If we could win 40 games or so next year and look like a team on the rise, I really think Washington could emerge as a realistic suitor for Howard. We'd have the cap room, a young, talented roster with upside, a good friend of Howard in Rashard Lewis (perhaps renegotiated on a longer term deal for less annual salary), and a few young pieces to send Orlando's way if a S&T is needed (McGee, Blatche, 2012 pick).

It would sure be nice to trot out this lineup in 2012:
PG Wall
SG Young
SF Lewis
PF D.Williams/Booker
C Howard/Seraphin

Unfortunately for now, there is no sign whatsoever that this team will turn the corner anytime soon. Howard won't come to join a 25-win team, no matter the "upside potential" of the roster. What we really need is for Wall to have a breakout 2nd year and lead us to the playoffs like Rose did last year.


COME THE F ON WITH THIS GARBAGE.

Dwight will go to NY or LA for a BIGGER MARKET like EVERY ARTICLE HAS SAID.

Why didn't LeBron sign here this offseason when we had all that money?

COME ON.

The Wiz could be a 60 win team and I would bet EVERYTHING that Dwight Howard would NEVER sign here. I'm sick of so many seeing everything through rose-colored glasses around here.
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Post#629 » by nate33 » Mon Feb 7, 2011 5:04 pm

AceDegenerate wrote:
nate33 wrote:
willbcocks wrote:I get the feeling the experiment won't work and dwight will head for brighter lights (not here mind).

If we could win 40 games or so next year and look like a team on the rise, I really think Washington could emerge as a realistic suitor for Howard. We'd have the cap room, a young, talented roster with upside, a good friend of Howard in Rashard Lewis (perhaps renegotiated on a longer term deal for less annual salary), and a few young pieces to send Orlando's way if a S&T is needed (McGee, Blatche, 2012 pick).

It would sure be nice to trot out this lineup in 2012:
PG Wall
SG Young
SF Lewis
PF D.Williams/Booker
C Howard/Seraphin

Unfortunately for now, there is no sign whatsoever that this team will turn the corner anytime soon. Howard won't come to join a 25-win team, no matter the "upside potential" of the roster. What we really need is for Wall to have a breakout 2nd year and lead us to the playoffs like Rose did last year.


COME THE F ON WITH THIS GARBAGE.

Dwight will go to NY or LA for a BIGGER MARKET like EVERY ARTICLE HAS SAID.

Why didn't LeBron sign here this offseason when we had all that money?

COME ON.

The Wiz could be a 60 win team and I would bet EVERYTHING that Dwight Howard would NEVER sign here. I'm sick of so many seeing everything through rose-colored glasses around here.

Sure, Howard would prefer to join NY or LA, but that looks unlikely based on cap numbers. And your Lebron argument is just stupid. Lebron didn't come here because we suck. The whole point of my last post is that nobody is going to come here until we convince them that this team has the talent to contend in the years to come. Winning 20-25 games a year does not inspire confidence.
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Post#630 » by AceDegenerate » Mon Feb 7, 2011 5:10 pm

My point is that no matter the money or amount of Wins this franchise has to offer, we are at least 10 years away from signing an impact free agent the calibre of Dwight Howard, LeBron James, or other Top 5 players.

It's so hard to read ideas like signing Dwight because it goes against everything that has ever happened in this franchise's entire history. My apologies for coming off crass... I just.. can't fathom it ever coming to fruition.
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Post#631 » by montestewart » Tue Feb 8, 2011 1:46 am

AceDegenerate wrote:My point is that no matter the money or amount of Wins this franchise has to offer, we are at least 10 years away from signing an impact free agent the calibre of Dwight Howard, LeBron James, or other Top 5 players.

And you know LeBJ will still be playing somewhere (Las Vegas, Paris, Milan) in ten years, and he'll be like 36, and then the Wizards will stomp him. Patience.
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Post#632 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 8, 2011 12:28 pm

For the former N.B.A. player Lonny Baxter, when Besiktas ColaTurka Istanbul, his Turkish team for the 2009-10 season, owed him $120,000 after not paying him for three months, he did not take it lightly. Baxter, 32, knew that Besiktas would be late for some payments, but, he said, “I didn’t think it would be as bad as it was once I got there.” So Baxter and his agents exercised an arbitration clause that has helped several American players resolve labor disputes in foreign countries. The F.A.T. clause, which stands for FIBA Arbitral Tribunal, is a voluntary legal proceeding that agents are now demanding to have included in their players’ contracts with international teams.

Baxter still playing and making a nice living overseas.
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Post#633 » by Kanyewest » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:31 am

Interesting that Randy Foye is starting (at least the past 9 games) while Gilbert Arenas isn't. BTW, a nice crossover by Foye in the game against the Magic; still appears to be struggling finding his shot although he had a nice game against the Knicks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko7GdWJtppA
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Post#634 » by fishercob » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:55 pm

Foye with a huge 4Q last night @ MSG
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Post#635 » by no D in Hibachi » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:57 pm

Per ESPN's Daily Dime:

'Antawn Jamison is the team's only proven scorer and supposed veteran leader, but he has been just as responsible for Cleveland's struggles as anyone on the team. Jamison is capable of scoring in bunches, but he has also been arguably the worst defensive player in the NBA this season. The only thing worse than the Cavalier offense is the Cavalier defense, and Jamison's weak man-to-man defense, atrocious pick-and-roll rotations, and general disinterest in playing any defense at all are the cause of most of Cleveland's defensive breakdowns.'


Reading between the lines it looks like Jamison is essentially taking the blame from scouts as the reason the Cav's are on the longest losing streak in NBA history. I haven't watched a single game of theirs, but I don't find that hard to believe. Especially considering he was primarily responsible for their epic defensive collapse against the Celtics and KG last post-season.
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Post#636 » by Dat2U » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:27 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:
Per ESPN's Daily Dime:

'Antawn Jamison is the team's only proven scorer and supposed veteran leader, but he has been just as responsible for Cleveland's struggles as anyone on the team. Jamison is capable of scoring in bunches, but he has also been arguably the worst defensive player in the NBA this season. The only thing worse than the Cavalier offense is the Cavalier defense, and Jamison's weak man-to-man defense, atrocious pick-and-roll rotations, and general disinterest in playing any defense at all are the cause of most of Cleveland's defensive breakdowns.'


Reading between the lines it looks like Jamison is essentially taking the blame from scouts as the reason the Cav's are on the longest losing streak in NBA history. I haven't watched a single game of theirs, but I don't find that hard to believe. Especially considering he was primarily responsible for their epic defensive collapse against the Celtics and KG last post-season.


Jamison is what he is. I've said it all along. While no one doubts his scoring ability, he also held this team back for years b/c of his unwillingness to play defense.

Jamison is getting his just desserts. There's a reason why he's had very nice career numbers but never won anything of significance in the NBA and has been constantly associated with losing. I don't feel sorry for him one bit. Mainly b/c he projects one image to the media and the public when in actuality he's an incredibly selfish player. No one deserves this record streak of losing more than him.

I may have been accused of irrational hate towards "The Great Leader of Men" but I was just calling a spade a spade.
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Post#637 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:33 pm

He doesn't want to play defense or he can't because he's a tweener?

He's a good dude. I believe that he is incapable of playing defense, but not because he's a lazy jerk.
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Post#638 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:38 pm

Juan Dixon Returning Overseas: With his one-year suspension from FIBA on the verge of being lifted, Juan Dixon is understandably excited. One year away from basketball is a long time for anyone, but it has felt like an eternity for Dixon.

After testing positive for the steroid nandrolone, which was found in an over-the-count supplement called Jack3d, the guard has been working hard and counting down the days until he could return to the game he loves.

"I'm excited," Dixon told HOOPSWORLD in a phone interview. "It's been a long year and throughout everything, I've just tried to work as hard as I could so that I would stay in the best shape possible. That's pretty much all I've been doing. The suspension is over on Saturday so I'm able to play anytime after that and I'm looking forward to it. I'm very excited. I've been counting down the days. I'm tired of being here in Baltimore and I'm really looking forward to playing basketball."

While Dixon will definitely be returning overseas, he has yet to determine which team he will sign with. Many teams have expressed interest in his services, including his former team Unicaja Malaga, but he is still weighing his options.

"I'm not sure if I'm going back to Malaga, but I would love to get the opportunity to play there once again. It's a fresh start after blowing a good opportunity last year and hopefully I would be able to go there and play well. But it's still up in the air. I don't know what's going to happen, but we're going to take it a day at a time. I'm just communicating with my agent and I'll see where things go," Dixon said.

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Post#639 » by Dat2U » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:50 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:He doesn't want to play defense or he can't because he's a tweener?

He's a good dude. I believe that he is incapable of playing defense, but not because he's a lazy jerk.


He doesn't want to. I've seen Jamison play defense before. Sustained defense for as much as a game or two and even longer. Especially when he's motivated to do (i.e. a benching, challenged by an opposing player, certain key situations, playing for a new team). His first week playing for the Wizards he played respectable D. For a few games after being benched once or twice at the end of games by EJ he played passable D. When he went to the Cavs the first couple of games he struggled to score but he stepped it up on the defensive end.

If Jamison can average 20 & 8. Be a solid offensive player and rebounder he's physically capable of playing defense. He's got no excuse and I hated when people would make excuses for him. If friggin' Wally Szcerzbiak can be a capable defender for the Cleveland Cavaliers than anyone can defend within a team concept. Anyone. Including Antawn. There is no excuse for his lack of effort and there never was.
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Post#640 » by LyricalRico » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:35 pm

Short on players for practice, the Charlotte Bobcats found an extra body in the front office: Michael Jordan.

The Hall of Famer and Bobcats owner suited up for Thursday's workout, participating in a full-court scrimmage and showing a few of the old moves that helped make him a six-time NBA champion.

''He's Mike. He's been kicking our (butts). He still has it,'' forward Gerald Wallace said. ''He doesn't have this quickness, but he can score, he's a shooter. The last thing to ever go is your jump shot and he has that.''

Jordan, who turns 48 next week, has been spending more time at practices and shootarounds, getting on the floor and doing some teaching. Thursday's practice was his most involved yet.

''He's holding these guys accountable and it's great. I love him out here,'' coach Paul Silas said. ''He's teaching them how to protect the basketball, how to play hard on defense, how to talk. It's a good thing.


http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Mich ... ?gt1=39002

LOL @ Paul Silas. Of course he's going to say that, because MJ is the only guy who was going to give him a job. He doesn't care if he's being undercut by the owner - he just wants to have a job beyond this season.

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