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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Post#641 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:28 pm

This is what Witt said:
“Whether it’s the first week of the season or the last, it’s ups and downs with guys and their offensive game,” Wittman said. “You see that with everybody. It’s a period he’s going through. He’s got to stay confident. Those are good shots and those are shots that we want him to take and that’s all I want him to do. But obviously, the defense is keyed up a bit differently than it was last year with him becoming a better player. But a better player, the harder it becomes.”



and this is what Beal said:
“You have to keep shooting the ball, no matter how many you miss, you make shots, you’ve just got to keep shooting, keep shooting, keep shooting,” Beal said. “That’s what these guys tell me to do. ‘Stay in a rhythm, whenever you have a shot take it,’ because it’s probably the best shot for our team. That’s what I’m known for doing. So that’s what I have to continue to do.”


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Post#642 » by dobrojim » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:11 pm

this ^ is not the slightest bit encouraging.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#643 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:44 pm

they should be telling him that its horrible low efficient shots, you need to shoot less not more, and stop making it twice as bad by doing it early in the shot clock.

This is another reason why I want Gooden to start. The one good thing about a guy like Book is you dont have to give him shots which means more attempts for the other guys but Beal is playing so bad that I want someone to take attempts away from him. The sad part is that I have a feeling his attempts will stay the same while others will go down.

Also, its like the minutes restriction and the early sub thing for Beal-Webster has had the reverse effect. Its like he chucks even more now because he knows he'll come out the game at an earlier point or that he's playing with backups on the 2nd unit so he feels ike he should be the #1 star KD type option. Its annoying
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Post#644 » by dobrojim » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:02 pm

is he playing tonight? Better check insider.

says he is playing...Maybe I shouldn't be surprised but there doesn't seem to be
any intelligent commentary on the subj of his shot selection and the coaches'
approval of it.
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Post#645 » by tontoz » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:14 pm

So much fail in those quotes. Wow
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Post#646 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:34 pm

I might start to give Beal a pass. He's a pro who should know better but he's still only 20. Its clear now that the biggest problem by far is the idiots around him who encourage it. How will he know that its bad and he's hurting the team if everyone tells him to keep doing what he's doing, especially the HC. Its disgusting. No wonder why the kid looks like an idiot who cant adjust.

Is it all just a perception thing? Because he looks like Ray Allen or a young smart kid who knows how to play the right way? Is it because of those reasons are actually blinding the people around him that he's actually doing the exact opposite. If this were NY or Jack Chuck then everyone would be killing there shot selection. Same with Blatche. Yet, they encourage Beal. I even hear Witt criticize Wall when he plays bad or gets on him immediatly if he has a game where he takes too many shots even though we all know he's a pass 1st guy yet Ive never yet one time til this day hear him single out Beal or say that he's doing something wrong. Instead its the exact opposite.

You think Pop or any top coach would love the shots Beal is taking or the way he's been playing? The worst part of about it is not only does dimwitt encourage it but he rewards it. He gets pretty much the max minutes avaialbe every single game. He gets more minutes then anyone on our team in terms of max of how much someone can play or deserves to play. He would play him more if he could. Its embarrassing
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#647 » by DCZards » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:09 pm

When you look at the quotes from Randy and Beal keep in mind that what's being said publicly is not necessarily all that's being said privately. I wouldn't expect Wittman to come out and say publicly that the problem is that Beal is taking too many long jumpers, but that doesn't mean it's not being said during practice or prep for games.

I also agree with blazin and dlts when they say that some of us are expecting too much from a 20 year old. I'm convinced that 2-3 years from now-- when Beal is smarter, stronger, more mature and has a better all-around game--we'll be very happy he's wearing a Zards uni.

Edit to add: As for dlts point about what Randy has said publicly about Wall vs. what he says about Beal: it's important that you treat people as individuals...and know what buttons you can or can't push when you're trying to motivate them.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#648 » by dlts20 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:32 pm

dczards, that maybe true about buttons but Beal doesnt seem like the type that you cant say that to. He might get that way though if you dont and then all of asudden you do. Witt also doesnt seem like the type to hold back and he's publicly got on other guys before, especially the guys who arent here now but he never questions Beal.

Honestly, you have to consider if what he's saying is 100% true. I mean maybe he does actually think Beal is playing the right way and taking good shots. Afterall, his system is designed for alot of jumpers and or long 2s which is flat out idiotic. I just hope we get a real coach next year. You can ask Witt if he wants to swallow his pride and just coach the D but I doubt he would
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Post#649 » by dckingsfan » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:00 pm

It will be really interesting to see which parts of Beal's game improves next year. This year it was his handles, assists and cutting down on his TOs... but that is about it. Next year, he needs to improve more aspects of his game - we really need him to take a big jump.

He needs to jump some of these guys....

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Post#650 » by tontoz » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:33 pm

The quotes from Randy and Beal jibe perfectly with what we have seen on the court all season. There is absolutely no reason to believe that their comments aren't sincere.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#651 » by DCZards » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:07 pm

tontoz wrote:The quotes from Randy and Beal jibe perfectly with what we have seen on the court all season. There is absolutely no reason to believe that their comments aren't sincere.


Yup, those quotes are probably sincere...just probably not all that's being said.
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Post#652 » by tontoz » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:31 am

DCZards wrote:
tontoz wrote:The quotes from Randy and Beal jibe perfectly with what we have seen on the court all season. There is absolutely no reason to believe that their comments aren't sincere.


Yup, those quotes are probably sincere...just probably not all that's being said.


I dont think anyone actually believes that we know all that is being said in the locker room.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#653 » by MOrgil » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:38 am

Beal's minutes should be cut until he starts playing better. We got other guys who can contribute more. Please Randy!
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Post#654 » by Jay81 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:40 am

i think beal is hurt and tired
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Post#655 » by gtn130 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:03 am

Jay81 wrote:i think beal is hurt and tired


Maybe but his decision making for the most part has been atrocious. People (like Wittman) defending long 2s are actually idiots.
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Post#656 » by mohammed10 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:35 pm

OK, just finished watching DVR of the game. I hate to ask this question (it seriously KILLS ME to even think about it), but when can we all start freaking out about Beal’s awful play over the last few weeks?

He’s morphing into a high volume, inefficient chucker right before our eyes…and normally I’d say it’s no big deal, and that it can be corrected since he’s young, but we all know Witless isn’t going to change the way he’s going to be used. That would be like, making an adjustment, or something. Randy just doesn’t do that.

I remember last year, Beal never ran the 2 man, awful hand off game. He just curled around screens, caught and shot, and made open 3s. Last year, when that was his role, some were beginning to question whether Beal might ACTUALLY BE BETTER THAN JOHN WALL.

Fast forward to now: He looks awful of late, and really, it’s because of the plays we’re running for him, or rather, the lack of plays that suit is style of play. Randy has to notice it, right? Or does he just brush it off and SERIOUSLY think things like “meh, it’s a shooter’s slump, no problem, he’ll be fine.”…..?

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Post#657 » by Illmatic21 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:51 pm

mohammed10 wrote:OK, just finished watching DVR of the game. I hate to ask this question (it seriously KILLS ME to even think about it), but when can we all start freaking out about Beal’s awful play over the last few weeks?

He’s morphing into a high volume, inefficient chucker right before our eyes…and normally I’d say it’s no big deal, and that it can be corrected since he’s young, but we all know Witless isn’t going to change the way he’s going to be used. That would be like, making an adjustment, or something. Randy just doesn’t do that.

I remember last year, Beal never ran the 2 man, awful hand off game. He just curled around screens, caught and shot, and made open 3s. Last year, when that was his role, some were beginning to question whether Beal might ACTUALLY BE BETTER THAN JOHN WALL.

Fast forward to now: He looks awful of late, and really, it’s because of the plays we’re running for him, or rather, the lack of plays that suit is style of play. Randy has to notice it, right? Or does he just brush it off and SERIOUSLY think things like “meh, it’s a shooter’s slump, no problem, he’ll be fine.”…..?

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My official stance is, I'll start freaking out if Beal is still doing this next season. For someone who is supposed to be a high IQ player, and you assume he will step back and critique his game in the offseason, work with trainers, coaches, etc (and he will also be around great basketball minds and talents at Team USA this summer).. for him to come in next year and continue playing the same way, that would be inexcusable.

Right now, he is only 20 and this is his first year in the NBA ever facing this kind of defensive attention. This is when he's first realizing what level he needs to play at every night, and how mentally locked in he needs to be. Looking back, our expectations were probably too high to think a 20-year old kid in his second year would do well as the #2 option on a playoff team. I mean how often does that happen really? I know he was the 3rd pick but it's not like he was touted to be an All-Star right away.. we picked him for his potential down the line.

Klay Thompson was a junior at Washington St when he was 20. Derozan was a rookie averaging 8ppg. Imagine how either of those guys would have looked in Beal's current situation, while being coached by Wittman? It would have been ugly.. in fact, they likely wouldn't have started over Webster. Thompson/Derozan aren't HOFers or anything, but they're ~top 5 at their position. If Beal turns out to be better than those guys, we'll be very glad we have him. Especially in a league where the SG position is so weak, it's a luxury to know that your starting backcourt can win their individual matchups most nights.


Edit: And I think it goes without saying, if Wittman is rehired we will all be pressing the panic button on not just Beal but this entire team's future.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#658 » by Kanyewest » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:31 pm

An article talking about Beal's midrange struggles.

http://hoopshabit.com/2014/03/25/washin ... struggles/
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Post#659 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:33 pm

Beal really needs to take a major step with his game. I'm not confident that Randy is the coach that can develop his game to an all-star level. We need a new coach that actually develops young players.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#660 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:09 pm

TGW wrote:
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nate33 wrote:Man, Beal shoots a TON of long 2's. Rip Hamilton was the master of the long 2 and yet he still shot far fewer than Beal.



https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 726AAFvKL0


:lol: :lol: :lol:


Well there you have it. We finally found something to bond over. LOL

I had tears coming out of my eyes when I was looking for the right post to that. Actually Googled ...

Long Poop.

I didn't realize that would be so funny to research. Hell, I'm can't stop laughing even typing this reply. Why is poop so funny ?

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