nate33 wrote:I would not trade Hachimura or Brown to move up. I really think that both guys will ultimately pan out to be average or better starters. I don't think the best player in this draft is all that much better than the #8ish pick we are likely to end up with. The difference between those two picks is not worth the loss of either Hachimura or Brown.
I'd be willing to trade Bryant to move up to land a center (Okangwu or Wiseman). If that center is any good, it's going to mean that one of Bryant or Wagner is out of the rotation anyhow. That said, I don't think Bryant has any real trade value. At the moment, he just isn't any better than a random, sub-MLE caliber center that is available in free agency every offseason. Why trade value away for Bryant when you can just sign a guy like Rashaun Holmes, Enes Kanter or Nerlens Noel?
I really just do not get this. I certainly see why to think that Brown will be terrific -- he's 20, & his numbers are already excellent. But I don't see the same kinds of reasons with Hachimura. In his case, you have to hope that he'll be good, that he'll be an average NBA 4. We don't know enough, & we sure don't see enough, from his play to make an informed projection.
As to Bryan, ok, I accept that at 22, he is not yet a good defender. But, his overall numbers are very good -- not what they were last year but getting better week by week. & way way better than average. His ball-possession stats (rebounds, TOs & steals) are identical to KAT's. His TS% is a bit better than KAT's -- now, that's on less usage than KAT, but still above average usage. An even better comparison would be Domantas Sabonis; Bryant is actually having a slightly better season.
The idea that a guy doing what he's doing at 22 has no trade value...??? That said, the overall concept -- that he might be the right one to give up in a move that gets us Wiseman or Okongwu -- is a different matter. Anyone can be traded. It's just a matter of what you get for what you give.
Now, I'd trade Wagner before I traded Bryant. If I could, that is. But, Wagner certainly has little or no trade value. He's improved over the horrors of his rookie year, to be sure, but... he is by no means playing well -- or anywhere near well.
Meanwhile, Okongwu's Freshman numbers are good enough, & he looks good enough, that he seems likely to be better overall than any of the guys I've mentioned. &, if Wiseman is what his 69 minutes say he is... wow.
I wouldn't trade any of our young guys to move up except Robinson but he doesn't get you a damn thing . 
