Political Roundtable Part XXIX

pancakes3 · Post #641 » by **pancakes3** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 4:21 pm

can't help but think that Beto and Abrams would have had enough personal charisma to tilt the favor in the senate elections for dems to retake majority.

dckingsfan · Post #642 » by **dckingsfan** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 6:17 pm

doclinkin wrote:Beto, sure, but thanks DCK, doing the good work on the ground where it is most needed. Much respect.

Yeah, feels like working just hard enough to fail. From text messages of the 200 or so voters I signed up, most of them voted. I flipped 8 Republicans - but did they really?

2020 has been such a suck year. But, you just get back on the horse in 2021 knowing this is going to take a lot longer than you expected.

But the ones I really feel for are the young progressives.

Post #643 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 9:36 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
doclinkin wrote:Beto, sure, but thanks DCK, doing the good work on the ground where it is most needed. Much respect.

Yeah, feels like working just hard enough to fail. From text messages of the 200 or so voters I signed up, most of them voted. I flipped 8 Republicans - but did they really?

2020 has been such a suck year. But, you just get back on the horse in 2021 knowing this is going to take a lot longer than you expected.

But the ones I really feel for are the young progressives.

Well, with Biden being 77, I'm thinking maybe he decides to not run for a second term and passes the torch to Kamala. I think this for Biden was more about getting the Trumps out than anything else.

pancakes3 · Post #644 » by **pancakes3** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 10:11 pm

DNC should have a strict policy of not nominating anyone over 65 years old.

the fact that someone 77 can make decisions on what's best for an 18 year old who's just entering the job market is laughable. i'm 30 and i have problems relating to gen z.

Post #645 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 10:21 pm

pancakes3 wrote:DNC should have a strict policy of not nominating anyone over 65 years old.

the fact that someone 77 can make decisions on what's best for an 18 year old who's just entering the job market is laughable. i'm 30 and i have problems relating to gen z.

30, you're due to be taken out back and turned into soylent green. One thing an old Dem is gonna do is keep social security solvent and funded so I can retire within a dozen years. That way, I can leave the workforce and let a younger guy take my job - a win/win.

pancakes3 · Post #646 » by **pancakes3** » Thu Nov 5, 2020 10:38 pm

Ruzious wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:DNC should have a strict policy of not nominating anyone over 65 years old.

the fact that someone 77 can make decisions on what's best for an 18 year old who's just entering the job market is laughable. i'm 30 and i have problems relating to gen z.

30, you're due to be taken out back and turned into soylent green. One thing an old Dem is gonna do is keep social security solvent and funded so I can retire within a dozen years. That way, I can leave the workforce and let a younger guy take my job - a win/win.

nobody gets your reference from 1973, old man.

but you, as a gen-x'er, know better than i do that even now with a solvent ss, boomers aren't retiring.

Post #647 » by **montestewart** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:46 am

pancakes3 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:DNC should have a strict policy of not nominating anyone over 65 years old.

the fact that someone 77 can make decisions on what's best for an 18 year old who's just entering the job market is laughable. i'm 30 and i have problems relating to gen z.

30, you're due to be taken out back and turned into soylent green. One thing an old Dem is gonna do is keep social security solvent and funded so I can retire within a dozen years. That way, I can leave the workforce and let a younger guy take my job - a win/win.

nobody gets your reference from 1973, old man.

but you, as a gen-x'er, know better than i do that even now with a solvent ss, boomers aren't retiring.

Besides, you're thinking of Logan's Run

Post #648 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 10:10 am

montestewart wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:30, you're due to be taken out back and turned into soylent green. One thing an old Dem is gonna do is keep social security solvent and funded so I can retire within a dozen years. That way, I can leave the workforce and let a younger guy take my job - a win/win.

nobody gets your reference from 1973, old man.

but you, as a gen-x'er, know better than i do that even now with a solvent ss, boomers aren't retiring.

Besides, you're thinking of Logan's Run

Exactly - blending the 2 movies together. But Logan's Run is too recent. :wink:

I_Like_Dirt · Post #649 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:42 pm

pancakes3 wrote:DNC should have a strict policy of not nominating anyone over 65 years old.

the fact that someone 77 can make decisions on what's best for an 18 year old who's just entering the job market is laughable. i'm 30 and i have problems relating to gen z.

I think it's time people wake up and start realizing that Biden might actually be the reason Trump didn't get a second term and none of the other candidates would have won.

I don't love the idea and it might not be true but it sure seems that way. Progressives keep blaming the Democrats and to an extent that's true. The bigger issue at this point is the electorate. It's obvious to see why Aristotle's idea of an enlightened monarch is popular amongst a certain crowd despite thr obvious problems therein.

To me, the bigger issue isn't even about old telling the young what to do; it's about the old regulating technology they don't understand and relying on industries to inform them, which invariably results in those industries self-"regulating." We need politicians that understand technology but people who embrace new technology are rarely popular because people don't like quick change that they feel embarrassed about because they don't understand it.

To be honest, that's largely what has Totalitarianism on the rise around the world, as far as I can tell. Younger generations did actually influence the future, but it wasn't in a way they expected. The new technology they developed went straight towards benefitting the wealthy and hardening the stances of the older generations at a time when people were having fewer kids in general.

Post #650 » by **Zonkerbl** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 1:51 pm

With the caveat that I've only seen this in this one tweet, isn't being reported anywhere else:

Read on Twitter

GOP is challenging every single ballot (in Detroit). If you're wondering why the counting is taking so long. Maybe they hope they can run out the clock to December 1st when the vote has to be certified. Desperate but, you know, sounds like something they'd do.

Post #651 » by **Zonkerbl** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 1:52 pm

Oh heck yeah, Biden leads in Pennsylvania now!

Post #652 » by **Zonkerbl** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:05 pm

Thank you to Stacey Abrams and thank you to black voters in Philadelphia. We delayed America's decent into totalitarianism by at least four years, now everybody go out and have lots of babies.

dckingsfan · Post #653 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:16 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Thank you to Stacey Abrams and thank you to black voters in Philadelphia. We delayed America's decent into totalitarianism by at least four years, now everybody go out and have lots of babies.

doclinkin · Post #654 » by **doclinkin** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:48 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Thank you to Stacey Abrams and thank you to black voters in Philadelphia. We delayed America's decent into totalitarianism by at least four years, now everybody go out and have lots of babies.

Double Thanks to Stacey Abrams for the run-off election that it looks like we will end up for 2 senate seats in Georgia. IF IIF IF there's a run off, and they both turn Blue, and the Senate is deadlocked at 50/50 then Kamal Harris gets to be the most powerful woman in America. And has a pretty good audition run for being Madam President in the eyes of the people, ready to take over for Grandpa Joe. I noted in the NYT exit polling that she was the person in the race with the strongest positives on both sides. Not that republicans love her, but they didn't hate her as much as everyone else hated everyone else.

Many If's. But it's interesting.

TGW · Post #655 » by **TGW** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 2:57 pm

Kamala Harris is the definition of a hack politician. If she worms herself into a presidency, it will be an indictment on how screwed up our "democracy" is.

AFM · Post #656 » by **AFM** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:15 pm

THEY'RE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION! WHEELBARROWS OF BALLOTS BEING PUSHED INTO CITY HALL!

Post #657 » by **montestewart** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:45 pm

AFM wrote:THEY'RE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION! WHEELBARROWS OF BALLOTS BEING PUSHED INTO CITY HALL!

SOYLENT GREEN IS BALLOTS!

Post #658 » by **montestewart** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:48 pm

TGW wrote:Kamala Harris is the definition of a hack politician. If she worms herself into a presidency, it will be an indictment on how screwed up our "democracy" is.

Add that to all the other indictments we add to the list every two years or so. As first female president, would prefer Abrams or Warren or similar, but would still rather have Harris than Trump, by a wide margin.

doclinkin · Post #659 » by **doclinkin** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:02 pm

I'd rather have Harris than Biden, even. With Biden you know what you will get. Trying to please everyone and take the middle path etc. He will blow wherever the loudest wind blows. Harris the AG evolved into a more progressive Harris in congress. Unknown where that goes, but it seems she is still changing. It's tough to change an 80 year old man, in any positive way that is.

queridiculo · Post #660 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Nov 6, 2020 4:53 pm

AFM wrote:THEY'RE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION! WHEELBARROWS OF BALLOTS BEING PUSHED INTO CITY HALL!

In the meantime, I received my voter registration card from Florida today, a month after it was issued.

At this rate I should be getting my absentee ballot around christmas.