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Re: Presti's Tree Reaches DC: The Official Will Dawkins Thread 

Post#641 » by Menace2Sobriety » Thu Jan 8, 2026 2:01 pm

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Menace2Sobriety wrote:So - do folks still trust them?

Schlenk just pulled a Nico and pulled the wool over Ted’s eyes.

They might draft well, but if they lose one of the top 3/4 picks, not to mention lose it altogether, worse than previous?


How can you compare this to Nico?
We gave up nothing for a much better player....

I think Trae is going to rehab the rest of the season, so we removed the players most responsible for ruining our tank (CJ and Corey), and we don't replace there production this season, but next season we add 25 and 10 to our team, plus our lottery pick, 2nd 1st with OKC, and still have about 40million to add another player to our roster....

This could be our team next season....

G - Trae, Tre, Bub, AJJ, Watkins
F - Keyshawn, Bilal, Cam, JC, Riley
C - Sarr, Nikola, Bagley

1st - Dybantsa, Peterson, Boozer, Wilson, Brown, Flemings, Ament, Peat, Quaintance......
2nd 1st - Too many options to name since it's so early in the process.....

FA - We could sign Hartenstein and Kuminga depending on who we draft...


I mean this is not a bad squad potentially...


Obviously I don’t mean the talent gap or comparison of the players.

Nico traded for AD in part b/c of his past experience and relationship and leveraged that to convince ownership it would be a great move. Similar here w/ Schlenk - who is doubling down on Trae.
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Post#642 » by doclinkin » Thu Jan 8, 2026 4:38 pm

I think the Schlenk references are to allay any concerns of Trae's agents. That we got a guy here who likes Trae, so trust us. The rest will come down to either a) Trae picks up his option and becomes an other expiring asset that keeps a thumb on the scale of the 90% cap minimum, or b) we work out a sign and trade with a team that does want Trae, but at a different yearly rate, or c) he works out a deal where he can audition for us or other teams on short term option years. But basically we are saying lets pay you this year and next year to rehab physically and rehab your image and if it works out great you can trust us.
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Re: Presti's Tree Reaches DC: The Official Will Dawkins Thread 

Post#643 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jan 8, 2026 6:51 pm

I think that this trade drops Presti/Dawkins (in the trade category) compared to other teams. (opinion).
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Post#644 » by payitforward » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:12 pm

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leswizards wrote:...trade Marvin and Justin for whatever they can get, which should preserve the tank.

We really need to extend JC for a modest cost. He is the kind of under-appreciated low-paid near-star who can push a good team into being great. He is a huge ROI guy... and you need to hit on a few of these for sustained success...

He's under contract for 4 seasons I believe! Can't extend him really -- but of course we could renegotiate his deal to pay him more. And should.

Certainly you are right that we should not trade him "for whatever...." A terrible idea.

GoneShammGone wrote:...I mean, sure if somebody offers him like 20 million a year, then well hey they get what they pay for....

As I say, we have him under control for quite some time! Good thing too...!
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Post#645 » by payitforward » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:14 pm

Menace2Sobriety wrote:So - do folks still trust them?

Schlenk just pulled a Nico and pulled the wool over Ted’s eyes.

They might draft well, but if they lose one of the top 3/4 picks, not to mention lose it altogether, worse than previous?

Your premise seems to be that we've gotten better by trading for Trae. No. Far from it.
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Post#646 » by Menace2Sobriety » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:20 pm

payitforward wrote:
Menace2Sobriety wrote:So - do folks still trust them?

Schlenk just pulled a Nico and pulled the wool over Ted’s eyes.

They might draft well, but if they lose one of the top 3/4 picks, not to mention lose it altogether, worse than previous?

Your premise seems to be that we've gotten better by trading for Trae. No. Far from it.


Correct but given Schlenk’s past with Trae - not sure the front office agrees - which is the concerning part.

If we sit Trae and keep our pick, like you, I’ve become comfortable with it. Resigning him is another question.
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Post#647 » by AFM » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:20 pm

“Starting an all nba PG instead of Bub Carrington doesn’t make us better” - PIF
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Post#648 » by tontoz » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:25 pm

Apparently the penalties for not reaching the salary floor are pretty severe. I asked the question awhile back how do we reach the salary floor for next season? There just aren't any easy answers.

Houston kept Wall on the roster for awhile even though they weren't playing him just so they could use his contract to reach the salary floor. Then the overpaid FVV partly for the same reason.

Apparently the league flipped out over Hinke and The Process, part of which was refusing to pay guys during the rebuild.
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Post#649 » by payitforward » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:26 pm

He was all nba -- he's not producing like that the last several years.

Why do you think Atlanta traded him for Corey Kispert? Because they're dumb? You think there were better offers, but they turned them down b/c Trae wanted to come here.

Nobody wanted Trae. Why do you think that is?
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Post#650 » by AFM » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:27 pm

payitforward wrote:He was all nba -- he's not producing like that the last several years.

Why do you think Atlanta traded him for Corey Kispert? Because they're dumb? You think there were better offers, but they turned them down b/c Trae wanted to come here.

Nobody wanted Trae. Why do you think that is?


He’s massively overpaid that’s why. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t make us better. Of course he does. For the sole reason that our PG spot is absolutely abysmal. He’s a massive upgrade for us.
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Post#651 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:27 pm

payitforward wrote:
Menace2Sobriety wrote:So - do folks still trust them?

Schlenk just pulled a Nico and pulled the wool over Ted’s eyes.

They might draft well, but if they lose one of the top 3/4 picks, not to mention lose it altogether, worse than previous?

Your premise seems to be that we've gotten better by trading for Trae. No. Far from it.
We likely won’t know until the 2026-27 season whether the Zards are a better team because of the trade for Young.
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Post#652 » by tontoz » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:27 pm

AFM wrote:“Starting an all nba PG instead of Bub Carrington doesn’t make us better” - PIF


Trae is replacing CJ, not Bub. You can bet Bub will get his minutes even if Trae is playing 30+ minutes.
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Post#653 » by DCZards » Thu Jan 8, 2026 9:29 pm

payitforward wrote:He was all nba -- he's not producing like that the last several years.

Why do you think Atlanta traded him for Corey Kispert? Because they're dumb? You think there were better offers, but they turned them down b/c Trae wanted to come here.

Nobody wanted Trae. Why do you think that is?
His contract and salary. Teams would have been lining up to trade for Trae if his salary was $25-$30 mil and not $46 & $49 mil.
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Post#654 » by payitforward » Thu Jan 8, 2026 11:00 pm

AFM wrote:
payitforward wrote:He was all nba -- he's not producing like that the last several years.

Why do you think Atlanta traded him for Corey Kispert? Because they're dumb? You think there were better offers, but they turned them down b/c Trae wanted to come here.

Nobody wanted Trae. Why do you think that is?

He’s massively overpaid that’s why. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t make us better. Of course he does. For the sole reason that our PG spot is absolutely abysmal. He’s a massive upgrade for us.

Can't argue about the future as if it already existed as a set of facts, so we'll see. Hope so.
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Post#655 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 11, 2026 8:21 pm

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Post#656 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 11, 2026 8:56 pm

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payitforward wrote:He was all nba -- he's not producing like that the last several years.

Why do you think Atlanta traded him for Corey Kispert? Because they're dumb? You think there were better offers, but they turned them down b/c Trae wanted to come here.

Nobody wanted Trae. Why do you think that is?
His contract and salary. Teams would have been lining up to trade for Trae if his salary was $25-$30 mil and not $46 & $49 mil.
Is it entirely IMPOSSIBLE that Trae will enjoy next season so much that he re-signs at the end of the season at a discount for $30M per over 2 seasons?
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Post#657 » by tontoz » Wed Jan 28, 2026 3:01 pm

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Post#658 » by payitforward » Wed Jan 28, 2026 8:13 pm

Don't miss that video -- very entertaining: 3 great kids!
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Post#659 » by leswizards » Thu Feb 5, 2026 6:18 am

With the addition of Trae and AD, if the Wizards are truly committed to winning next season, and give playing time based upon merit and not based upon draft position and optimism, there might not be any starting positions available for Bilal, Tre, Keyshawn, Bub and Will. Additionally, Bub and Will might not be in the rotation.

Regarding starters, Trae, AD and Sarr will presumably be starters. Based upon merit, Justin and next year’s first round pick might be the other two starters.

Regarding Bub and Will not being in the rotation, if Jamir and Cam outplay those two, and minutes are distributed based upon merit, those two might be out of the rotation.
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Re: Presti's Tree Reaches DC: The Official Will Dawkins Thread 

Post#660 » by TheBlackCzar » Thu Feb 5, 2026 8:38 am

leswizards wrote:With the addition of Trae and AD, if the Wizards are truly committed to winning next season, and give playing time based upon merit and not based upon draft position and optimism, there might not be any starting positions available for Bilal, Tre, Keyshawn, Bub and Will. Additionally, Bub and Will might not be in the rotation.

Regarding starters, Trae, AD and Sarr will presumably be starters. Based upon merit, Justin and next year’s first round pick might be the other two starters.

Regarding Bub and Will not being in the rotation, if Jamir and Cam outplay those two, and minutes are distributed based upon merit, those two might be out of the rotation.


Before I start my response, I'm a just say this..... I have so many reasons to hate this damn team as it has given me decades of ammunition...
Considering my football teams all are championship level organizations, (SF49, NYG, Miami Canes).....
I definitely am not a fan that would ever be considered a homer.....
I scream for Kyle Shannahan's Head, was glad Daboll was fired, and I don't really feel merciful about pro sports considering the cost....
I definitely would not be rocking with this FO or team if I didn't like the overall product that they are building....
With that said, the change in outlook of this team 3yrs ago, to now, is really crazy to watch.....
DC is going to be interesting once all these stadiums are built or renovated.....


Now to what you're on.....
What you want is our younging's parked on the bench, but I doubt they are going to do that....
They are going to continue developing our youngings....
Our guys are physically still boys and you nor I really know what that even translates to as they become young men......
That was the dice roll drafting guys who were so raw, but had phsycial profiles they coveted, and diverse skillsets....
Once they grow up, this squad could be exceptional....

Jamir has to learn how to shoot...
Justin will play, but this desire for him to bench our youngsta's is kinda wild....
We are going to see what alot of the kids can do the rest of the season....
But seeing how our guys have been making gains in the weightroom from 1-2 summers, I wonder what they'll look like by year 4-5 when they are 23-24....

Bub is going to look better playing with a real PG (TY)....
He was being miscast as a lead guard and will go back to his more natural position of 2......
His game works so much better when he doesn't have to get to the hole as much not being forced to play out of position......
The complaints about not getting to the rim become less of an issue when that's not his job or role....
His mid range and 3 point shooting will be more valuable then....
He needs to keep improving his physique and work on his defense....

Will Riley has a chance to be a very nice player...
He's tall, can pass and shoot, and is as skinny as a pole....
He's raw clay, that has flashed some promising signs.....
He'll only get stronger, and will continue working on his game to improve as a player...

We have been drafting guys who live basketball...
You want microwave success, when it's been 3 years....
How did you interpret gutting it down to the foundation?


If we go G in the draft, depends on who we get...
If we get DP I could see him starting as a rookie, but if we draft Flemings or Brown, or Arenas, I think those guys will come in off the bench to begin the season......
If we get AJ, CB, CW or someone in that vein, again I don't know if anyone besides AJ might have a chance to start as a rookie.....

I just don't get the desire to get so mad at the Wizards now, of all times to be sick of this team....
I mean you had so many chances prior to this regime that should've really gotten you up in arms, but this particular iteration is what set you off?
Why?

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