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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#681 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:33 am

fishercob wrote:I'm not bitching about Singleton. Seems like a great fit. He AND Vesley, with our current roster and its deficiencies, seems like a weird pairing is all. We're going to be really inefficient on offense for a bit.


One step at a time. Lets improve the defense, hustle, and tempo. Then we can work on offensive efficiency.
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Post#682 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:34 am

fishercob wrote:I'm not bitching about Singleton. Seems like a great fit. He AND Vesley, with our current roster and its deficiencies, seems like a weird pairing is all. We're going to be really inefficient on offense for a bit.


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If not scorers, I think we needed at least one guy from this draft that could shoot. Well we still have the #34 pick, but I'm not sure who we use the pick on.

I think that Singleton will be a very solid player though.
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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#683 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:34 am

Cramer wrote:How are we going to score? Oh yea, forgot about the plans for a deep run next year.

Oh well, maybe we just get some guys in here with the right mindset.


This. After all the complaining about "knuckleheads" and the lack of defense, people are now complaining about offense and shooting. Really? C'mon people - this draft was never going to solve all of our problems. No one draft can. But this team definitely took a huge step towards changing the culture when it comes to hustle and defense with this draft IMO.
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Post#684 » by mohammed10 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:35 am

Tyrone Messby wrote:Exactly, every season we bitch about having a defensive stopper...well, WE GOT HIM. LETS ROLL, LOVE THIS PICK.


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Post#685 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:35 am

the wiz need to buy a pick and get bertans, the wiz can wait 2 years for him, he is similar to peja
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Post#686 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:37 am

FAH1223 wrote:Great choice. I think Faried would have been great too

Now we have someone to lockdown LeTravel



Mark my words: Faried seems to be the type of guy with HOF potential. He's by far the most underrated player I've seen. For all of Vesely's dunks, the guy didn't score all that many points. For as limited a player as Faried supposedly is, he's among the most efficient of all NCAA finishers.

The explanation that Vesley won't have plays called for him but will score on breaks only applies on breaks.

Faried will get the ball off of both offensive and defensive rebounds. The reason Faried would have been a MUCH better selection than Vesely or Singleton is that he will have the ball in his hands far more than either player. Standing reach of 9' even is way better than taller Chris Singleton's 8'7.5". More importantly, Faried rebounded better than anybody in the NCAAs the past 25 years.

The guy will score a ton more points off dunks than Vesely.

For all the money guys like Ernie and his scouts and everybody else's scouts make, you guys who know me know I miss, too. (Almond and fats Sweetney are examples). But time and again things like trading the rights to Seth Curry for one-year rentals of Miller and Foye and selling DeJuan Blair, only to trade up for a Booker later or to draft higher for a player not nearly as good (Seraphin) are what happens. I talked about Millsap for MONTHS and Ernie drafted Pecherov.

Mark my words: This draft won't help that much because you can't play Singleton and Vesely without sitting Blatche and Lewisand Flip won't do that. You can't play both guys at the same time. It's like drafting two Trevor Arizas.

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Post#687 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:37 am

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Post#688 » by Hoopalotta » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:38 am

Chris Singleton is known as one of the best defenders in this draft class, but his offensive efficiency of .86 PPP leaves a lot to be desired, as it ranks 2nd worst in this group after Chris Wright.

Singleton's mediocre ball-handling skills seem to be the main culprit here. He turns the ball over at a fairly high rate, (14.2% of possessions), which ranks him 6th in this group.

He gets out in transition more than any prospect at 3 possessions per game, but ranks dead last in scoring efficiency in this category, at a dreadful .905 PPP.

Singelton would be well served cutting out the 1.5 pull-up jumpers he shoots every game at the next level, as he only makes 29% of these attempts.

In catch and shoot situations he's far more effective, [b]making 43% of his attempts at 1.28 points per shot, the 4th best in this group.[/b]


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chr ... z1Q9Yl0IQ7

That "4th best in this group" is amongst something like 16-18 assorted larger forwards.

That's definitely a start offensively and the one thing you'd want as a base with Wall around.
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Post#689 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:38 am

I really hope Reggie Jackson slips to #34!
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Post#690 » by Cramer » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:39 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:Great choice. I think Faried would have been great too

Now we have someone to lockdown LeTravel



Mark my words: Faried seems to be the type of guy with HOF potential. He's by far the most underrated player I've seen. For all of Vesely's dunks, the guy didn't score all that many points. For as limited a player as Faried supposedly is, he's among the most efficient of all NCAA finishers.

The explanation that Vesley won't have plays called for him but will score on breaks only applies on breaks.

Faried will get the ball off of both offensive and defensive rebounds. The reason Faried would have been a MUCH better selection than Vesely or Singleton is that he will have the ball in his hands far more than either player. Standing reach of 9' even is way better than taller Chris Singleton's 8'7.5". More importantly, Faried rebounded better than anybody in the NCAAs the past 25 years.

The guy will score a ton more points off dunks than Vesely.

For all the money guys like Ernie and his scouts and everybody else's scouts make, you guys who know me know I miss, too. (Almond and fats Sweetney are examples). But time and again things like trading the rights to Seth Curry for one-year rentals of Miller and Foye and selling DeJuan Blair, only to trade up for a Booker later or to draft higher for a player not nearly as good (Seraphin) are what happens. I talked about Millsap for MONTHS and Ernie drafted Pecherov.

Mark my words: This draft won't help that much because you can't play Singleton and Vesely without sitting Blatche and Lewisand Flip won't do that. You can't play both guys at the same time. It's like drafting two Trevor Arizas.

We'll see.


Here we go.......... :roll:
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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#691 » by Silvie Lysandra » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:39 am

I like Singleton. I don't like Vesely. Guys who are super athletic and non productive scream DANGER DANGER DANGER.

I think what we need to do is tell him "you're 6'11,240, you're a PF, get out there and rebound and block shots". If we're looking at him as a 3, especially with Singleton on our team, then I have to just facepalm.
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Post#692 » by fishercob » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:40 am

LyricalRico wrote:
fishercob wrote:I'm not bitching about Singleton. Seems like a great fit. He AND Vesley, with our current roster and its deficiencies, seems like a weird pairing is all. We're going to be really inefficient on offense for a bit.


One step at a time. Lets improve the defense, hustle, and tempo. Then we can work on offensive efficiency.


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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#693 » by Cramer » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:41 am

and ya know what, if Singler is there at 34 I take him and sleep like a baby tonight. Lets get some kids in here that know how to play.
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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#694 » by 80sballboy » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:42 am

Obviously Wiz won't contend this year. They got screwed with the 6th pick. Where do you go? Klay Thompson? Too high (so to speak). Leonard? He went 15. Thompson was taken. Biyombo was very raw and we had Seraphin, another undersized 5. Obviously we are lacking Derrick Williams, a creative 3-4 who can score on anybody. Unfortunately, there was only one in this draft.
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Post#695 » by Cramer » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:42 am

Damn...just threw up in my mouth....forgot he was a Dukie.

Still......let 'em sort it out on the court
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Re: Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - Draft Thread 5 

Post#696 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:42 am

Chaos Revenant wrote:I think what we need to do is tell him "you're 6'11,240, you're a PF, get out there and rebound and block shots". If we're looking at him as a 3, especially with Singleton on our team, then I have to just facepalm.


:nod:

That's what I've been saying. He's going to be the anti-Blatche at PF, a hustle player who will give 100% every night. I think he's shown that he can block shots and that he is willing to box out. I'm willing to give him a chance.
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Post#697 » by Ruzious » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 am

7-Day Dray wrote:I really hope Reggie Jackson slips to #34!

Good choice. Either him or one of CCJ's boys - Charles Jenkins - who's really grown on me.
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Post#698 » by Liverbird » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 am

If Singleton starts - we've got a more balanced roster:

PG - Wall/Crawford
SG - NY1/Jeffers
SF - Singleton/Vesley
PF - Blatche/Lewis/Booker
C - McGee/Seraphin

More balance but still a little inefficient.
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Post#699 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 am

:pray: Vesely isn't another Joe Alexander.
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Post#700 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:45 am

Ruzious wrote:
mhd wrote:Right now, our rotation looks like:

PG: Wall/Crawford
SG: Young/SIngleton
SF: Lewis/Vessly
PF: Blatche/Booker
C: McGee/Seraphin

Singleton cannot play guard. He'll have trouble staying with the quicker 3's, and he doesn't have good ball-handling skills even for a 3; much less a 2.


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Seriously, though, forget this and start making a list of gratitudes--I know I had to. Last year, the day before I had to be in family court to try and prevent my ex from taking the kids totally, I was driving down the road and my engine went out.

You and others here on realgm were very supportive. Helped with not just kind words but also a lot of suggestions on car purchases. Seemed like the more stuff happened, as long as I went through things with a joyful attitude, things were fine. Legal fees, drama, so what?

Wizards draft is something we usually bitch about, any way. I wasn't all that happy with Wall. :lol: I know I HATED the McGee and Young picks. EG turned out to really be right on Javale. Nick can score it well enough for where he was picked and has turned out better than Almond and Belinelli--and then some (I was wrong).

Who knows? I feel bad today so far. I wanted the guy the Nuggets just picked, but oh well ...
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