Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part II

[stevemcqueen1]

Yeah, Drummond could always hang his hat on being a disruptive defender - even with giant holes in his offensive game. Len doesn't have a skill that he could even hang a tie on. Now, with it looking like the Wiz could slip all the way to 10, hopefully there's a team that reaches for him before the Wiz pick. Otherwise, he could be the Wiz pick - which I think would be a disaster. One good game against UNC shouldn't change anyone's view of Len.

Len can shoot and has far better offensive tools than Drummond did. But he's going to spend the first couple years of his career playing very few minutes while he shapes his body for the NBA.

It can be done though. Look at what Enes Kanter looks like today. Dude is a brick wall. He was big before but he was doughy and had a wiry looking upper body. Now he's a tank. If Alex Len gets that big, he could be a force. He's got a tremendous frame and finesse skills. He's a good piece of raw clay.

One player I wasn't considering at all - mainly because I thought we'd be picking too high to consider him - is McCollum - because he'd be a really good fit. He's not a real PG, but because Beal is such a good distributor, and because Wall has shooting guard size, the Wiz could play him with either Wall or Beal. And look at the Wiz bench. When Ariza and Seraphin are arguably the top bench scorers, you got a really big problem. McCollum is a scorer. Hopefully, he'd be a more efficient version of Jordan Crawford. And because all 3 are good rebounders for guards with good strength and aggression, at times - you could play small ball with the 3 of them.

I could see it coming down to Bennett vs McCollum - though I think Bennett goes earlier.

The Wizards have needs for future starters at the 3 and 5. Those should have priority over finding bench guys. We're probably going to be picking a role player where we draft but I'd prefer them to be a future starter. If CJ McCollum is the best we can do when we pick, so be it. But I'd definitely take Len over him.

Bennett is going to be a top five or six pick IMO. He's in a higher tier than McCollum. I think Bennett, Shabazz, and Nerlens are the three most talented players in the class. And I think the top seven is going to firmly coalesce as some order of Nerlens, Smart, McLemore, Bennett, Shabazz, Zeller, and Porter. There are always surprises, but I think those seven are the tier 1 of the class. Oladipo might be in that tier as well but I have some doubts about his offensive skill set.

I think Len is probably our best option from the next tier and there's a big chance we'll be picking 9th or later. There are always surprises on draft day and guys fall unexpectedly but I'd try and trade up into the top seven if we end up picking outside that range. I would rather have one pretty good player out of this class than three iffy ones.

I think McCollum is in a tier with Olynyk, Plumlee, MCW, Trey Burke, and Poythress. Of that group, yeah I'd probably prefer Burke or McCollum because they are actually good and probably translate to the NBA. It's a depressing group to be drafting from though.

[hands11]

Ruz

I would love to see McCollum here. He was one of my early favorite players but it hard for me to see them doing that when a young 7-0 center is such a need.

Its like the hole they had at SG going into last draft. But after center, back up SG is the next biggest hole short term. Longer term, its starting SF but that can wait if needed.

They have time at PF since they have Nene, Booker and Kevin S.

Temple helps them at PG/SG but there is room for one more player with PG skills. Hopefully we can get that player without using a pick if we can get Pierre. I think we can upgrade from Price.

What they need this draft is an Okafor replacement. That player need to be able to do those things.

The big question is, do Withey or Gorgui Dieng give you enough of what you need that you would go for a McCollum or Bennett with that higher pick.

As of right now, I would certainly consider it.

Bennett/Gorgui doesn't suck.
Bennett/Withey
McCollum/Withey
McCollum/Gorgui

Those are all nice combinations

[Ruzious]

The only guy I want in a wizards uni next season from the Maryland-UNC game is Reggie Bullock.

PJ Hairston is really stepping up his game - so far - even with the hand injury. He's got picture perfect form on his jump shot. Bullock does remind me of Webster, but he had a tough half. Larkin's first half was - in a word - brilliant. But he said he's staying in school.

[Ruzious]

Ruz

I would love to see McCollum here. He was one of my early favorite players but it hard for me to see them doing that when a young 7-0 center is such a need.

Its like the hole they had at SG going into last draft. But after center, back up SG is the next biggest hole short term. Longer term, its starting SF but that can wait if needed.

They have time at PF since they have Nene, Booker and Kevin S.

Temple helps them at PG/SG but there is room for one more player with PG skills. Hopefully we can get that player without using a pick if we can get Pierre. I think we can upgrade from Price.

What they need this draft is an Okafor replacement. That player need to be able to do those things.

The big question is, do Withey or Gorgui Dieng give you enough of what you need that you would go for a McCollum or Bennett with that higher pick.

As of right now, I would certainly consider it.

Bennett/Gorgui doesn't suck.
Bennett/Withey
McCollum/Withey
McCollum/Gorgui

Those are all nice combinations

Yeah, if we could somehow get another pick to get either Dieng or Withey, that'd really balance the roster. And frankly, I like both of them better than Len. In what little I saw yesterday, Withey continues to improve offensively and looks ready to play in the NBA (though I don't consider him a high ceiling prospect), and Dieng can at least contribute on defense and the boards as a rookie.

Steve, Len really hasn't proven he can shoot. He hasn't proven he can do anything except be a hair over 7 feet tall. I can't imagine him being useful to an NBA team next season. And the Wiz don't really NEED a starter at the 3 if Webster is retained. They do need a 4 or a 5, but if you force it, you're probably going to regret it.

[mhd]

Posted this in the Webster thread, but it might as well go in here too: Here is my mock draft if the draft were held today:

1) Bobcats-Noel (Bobcats can tank again next year for Wiggins and allow Noel plenty of time to rehab)
2) Orlando-Smart (need a PG)
3) Suns-Mclemore (need a scoring wing)
4) New Orleans-Porter (perfect fit as a need and BPA)
5) Cavs-Zeller (go with the Zeller brothers)
6) Pistons-Shabaaz (need a go-to scorer)
7) Kings-Olapido (fits a huge need)
8) Minny-Len (No good wings left, take BPA and won't take Bennett with Love on roster)
9) Wiz-Bennett (I doubt he falls here, but maybe he does)

[nuposse04]

He's probably a little bit away from declaring...but just for the hilarity of it, Sim Bhullar is crazy physical speciman. I'm honestly surprised this dude can run. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... im-bhullar

I doubt he becomes the Indian version of Yao Ming but seeing some gifs of him against collegiate players is just comical. I'd take him in the 2nd, he'd be a better victory cigar than Vesely.

[gambitx777]

Kelly Olynyk ! if we slip to 10 or less i say we take him. he is going to be the steal of the draft !

we can pick up mid to late firsts and seconds pick up guys like.
Tony Mitchell,
Deshaun Thomas,
Mike Muscala,
and
Nate Wolters.
I think these guys will be good NBA players. and we can get them late on the cheep.

[hands11]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... la-vucevic

Why

Why didn't we draft this guy.

He would be the perfect Okafor replacement.

We would be going into this draft wide open best player available.

[hands11]

Ruz

I would love to see McCollum here. He was one of my early favorite players but it hard for me to see them doing that when a young 7-0 center is such a need.

Its like the hole they had at SG going into last draft. But after center, back up SG is the next biggest hole short term. Longer term, its starting SF but that can wait if needed.

They have time at PF since they have Nene, Booker and Kevin S.

Temple helps them at PG/SG but there is room for one more player with PG skills. Hopefully we can get that player without using a pick if we can get Pierre. I think we can upgrade from Price.

What they need this draft is an Okafor replacement. That player need to be able to do those things.

The big question is, do Withey or Gorgui Dieng give you enough of what you need that you would go for a McCollum or Bennett with that higher pick.

As of right now, I would certainly consider it.

Bennett/Gorgui doesn't suck.
Bennett/Withey
McCollum/Withey
McCollum/Gorgui

Those are all nice combinations

Yeah, if we could somehow get another pick to get either Dieng or Withey, that'd really balance the roster. And frankly, I like both of them better than Len. In what little I saw yesterday, Withey continues to improve offensively and looks ready to play in the NBA (though I don't consider him a high ceiling prospect), and Dieng can at least contribute on defense and the boards as a rookie.

Steve, Len really hasn't proven he can shoot. He hasn't proven he can do anything except be a hair over 7 feet tall. I can't imagine him being useful to an NBA team next season. And the Wiz don't really NEED a starter at the 3 if Webster is retained. They do need a 4 or a 5, but if you force it, you're probably going to regret it.

I agree. They need a Okafor replacement only it would be great if that player was just a little taller.

An Okafor replacement is not Shaq. Its just a solid defender double double machines. Me personally, I would go for the more sure things over the higher upside that has bust potential.

They simply can not miss on this draft. That have to get a solid player. You can miss in 1 of maybe 5 drafts. We already had that draft when they went Ves, Singleton, Mack.

2009, they missed. They should have drafted Stephen Curry - Abe win now draft.
2010 they seem to have hit on Wall. #1, Kevin S and Booker. Really nice draft. Grade A
2011 they missed on Nikola and instead went for Ves. I don't count Leonard. They needed a big. Grade F
- Singleton and Mack ? MEH Specially on Mack.
2012 They hit on Beal. #3 but on the 2nd ? A for Beal clearly.

They can not afford to miss in this draft. MD did not make the tournament. We have seen all we will see of Len.

My question regarding Len is simple this. What is he known skill set and what is his mental make up. How smart is the kid. Can he be a defensive force and anchor a defense as a center ? I will compare that against the other options.

[hands11]

Posted this in the Webster thread, but it might as well go in here too: Here is my mock draft if the draft were held today:

1) Bobcats-Noel (Bobcats can tank again next year for Wiggins and allow Noel plenty of time to rehab)
2) Orlando-Smart (need a PG)
3) Suns-Mclemore (need a scoring wing)
4) New Orleans-Porter (perfect fit as a need and BPA)
5) Cavs-Zeller (go with the Zeller brothers)
6) Pistons-Shabaaz (need a go-to scorer)
7) Kings-Olapido (fits a huge need)
8) Minny-Len (No good wings left, take BPA and won't take Bennett with Love on roster)
9) Wiz-Bennett (I doubt he falls here, but maybe he does)

Yet you just showed how he could.

[The Consiglieri]

It's interesting, part of the reason this is a nightmare draft for me beyond it being rather weak, and the Wiz again turning a crummy start into a great finish (something all washington teams tend to do to screw themselves in slotting), but I also am weary when some of the better prospects are locals for you guys because there is always a bias that creeps in. Often saw the same thin with quality prospects out of Virginia, Va Tech, and Maryland in football etc. I dont like it when some of the better prospects are in your backyards because consistently I see an inflation of their talent (and a corresponding downgrading of the guys you dont see as much like Bennett, and Muhammad who are far out on the west coast).

Len scares the hell out of me, I can easily see him being no better than a "starting center that you need to replace but have to start). He does not strike me as the kind of guy that has any hope of being special. For me this draft is Noel,Muhammad, Bennet, maybe Porter , maybe Austin, otherwise i trade out for a 2nd pick in the '14 draft with a team that's drafting in the 8-16 range this year and wants ammo, or multiple picks. I dont think anyone in this draft outside of those guys, and some 2's and points are worth the pick, otherwise its better to move out of the draft entirely and add pieces to work with in a much better draft next year. There's bound to be at least one impatient team that thinks it will be better than it will be in '13-'14 that we can swing a deal with for a pick.I don't think we can afford to just chuck it and draft a low upside mediocrity like some of the big men in his draft, and second tier guys valued in that 5-12 area. I fear Porter may be that, I'm fairly positive Zeller and Len are exactly that.

[Wizardspride]

It's interesting, part of the reason this is a nightmare draft for me beyond it being rather weak, and the Wiz again turning a crummy start into a great finish (something all washington teams tend to do to screw themselves in slotting), but I also am weary when some of the better prospects are locals for you guys because there is always a bias that creeps in. Often saw the same thin with quality prospects out of Virginia, Va Tech, and Maryland in football etc.

I understand where you're coming from.

I try to make sure I'm judging prospects on what I think thier actual upside is rather than a hometown bias.

And fwiw. MD football players aren't a good example. Many of thier players actually DO become solid pros.

[The Consiglieri]

Yeah, Drummond could always hang his hat on being a disruptive defender - even with giant holes in his offensive game. Len doesn't have a skill that he could even hang a tie on. Now, with it looking like the Wiz could slip all the way to 10, hopefully there's a team that reaches for him before the Wiz pick. Otherwise, he could be the Wiz pick - which I think would be a disaster. One good game against UNC shouldn't change anyone's view of Len.

One player I wasn't considering at all - mainly because I thought we'd be picking too high to consider him - is McCollum - because he'd be a really good fit. He's not a real PG, but because Beal is such a good distributor, and because Wall has shooting guard size, the Wiz could play him with either Wall or Beal. And look at the Wiz bench. When Ariza and Seraphin are arguably the top bench scorers, you got a really big problem. McCollum is a scorer. Hopefully, he'd be a more efficient version of Jordan Crawford. And because all 3 are good rebounders for guards with good strength and aggression, at times - you could play small ball with the 3 of them.

I could see it coming down to Bennett vs McCollum - though I think Bennett goes earlier.

I think we're doing alright, yes those wins lately are troubling, but a perusal of the schedule shows that the last of are winnable home games are just about out the door. We only have one left (vs Toronto), i suspect we'd be dogs in every other home game left. When I checked the schedule a week ago, I saw 4 games at home where we'd be favored, and 5 road games where we'd be given a decent shot by Vegas (slight favorite, to reasonable home dog). The rest of the schedule is largely difficult. I believe we have 17 games left to play, with only 1 we'd be favored in at home, and about 4 we'd be favored in on the road (or neutral). I believe we'll probably go 3-14 to 7-10 down the stretch, which will likely lodge us somewhere between 3 and 7 overall pre-lottery.

I don't think the worst case scenario is going to play out because unlike a great many of the other crapper squads left, we have a distinctly difficult road ahead (i believe 11 of our last 17 are road games), and we should get right back into the running for a top 2-6 pick barring outstanding performances down the stretch (and the dreaded sit your starters games from Chicago, or Miami).

Hidden values worth trading up for in my view are 1. Alex Poythress 2. Steven Adams 3. James McAdoo 4. CJ McCollum 5. Glenn Robinson III 6.Tony Mitchell 7. Isaiah Austin 8. Rudy Gobert 9. Jeff Withey 10. Patrick Young

I'm a big fan of targetting undervalued players with genuine talent (Withey, McDermott), Overrated players out of HS who disappointed early in tough situations (Poythress, Adams, McAdoo, Mitchell, Austin), and foreigners that may be undervalued (Gobert). 5 of those 10 guys had top 10 overall grades from somewhere or multiple services last summer, and all of them can be had at great discount after disappointing seasons. I love to bet on that. While Im not super happy about any of those guys, and wouldn't take any top 5, I'd definitely trade down for them if we had a worse slot, or trade up from round 2 if any of them fell really far other than Young, and Withey who will slip into round 2, or go late round 1 no matter what). Most of these guys have issues no doubt, but all also have the potential in varying degrees to turn out like perenially solid to very good players, particularly Poythress, Adams, McAdoo, McCollum, Robinson, Mitchell and Austin. I think all of the top 7 have either the athleticism, talent, or both to poentially grow by leaps and bounds in times and have people shaking their heads at passing on them for mediocre low ceiling types like Marcus Morris or Chris Singleton were n '11, years later.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I have to wonder if Len will end up much better than Isiah Austin out of Baylor. Austin actually posted better numbers this year.

Watch what happens as Len gets stronger and has an actual PG to feed him.

I don't buy it. He's way too tentative. He's actually one of the reasons MD's PG's have been ineffective, because he doesn't make himself available for passes. He doesn't understand how to seal off his man to create a lane for passes. And he doesn't seem to see the court outside of the small area around him. When a lob pass comes, he doesn't react if it's not thrown perfectly. He's just not a natural basketball player. It's like he has to think through his moves before doing them - rather just doing them instinctively like other players... who are better than him. If he goes in the draft, he's not going to play his rookie year - he's not ready.

Yeah, Ruz. I think you're right about all of this. I agree 100%.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Watch what happens as Len gets stronger and has an actual PG to feed him.

He's just not a natural basketball player. It's like he has to think through his moves before doing them - rather just doing them instinctively like other players... who are better than him. If he goes in the draft, he's not going to play his rookie year - he's not ready.

It's not surprising that he's "not a natural basketball player".

Alex Len's primary focus was gymnastics growing up...so what seems second nature to many players probably doesn't to him.

I just know you can't teach 7-1, 250, crazy wing span and athleticism.

Two comments, one not PC. He's also not a natural "brother" or some other ballin' dude like a Serb or a Lithuanian, etc. Len didn't grow up throwing bows and talking stuff. The only chicken wing that guy probably knows comes in extra crispy or original. Alex looks like he's thinking about everything but the dirty stuff guys do to box him out. He's not mean naturally IMO but he does have a mean streak, which is GREAT. But he's not a natural from not just a basketball player standpoint but from a mindset, too. How was Roy Hibbert early on? Len reminds me of him in some ways.

Second comment is that I wonder what Len would be like if Rasheed or KG or somebody else with attitude were to mentor him? The coaching staff at Maryland might be good but their big men seem to be way too nice for as big as they are. I would have those guys like Big John Thompson had Michael Graham be. I think Mutombo, Mourning, and Ewing were all natural and they're all brothers who just don't back down. Len doesn't back down but he's got to be prodded into being mean. He's got to amped up, or else he's content. Dude doesn't like to fight. I don't think he'd down for whatever.

But I do think he will be once he learns because Len does have passion and fire for the game. He's robotic, not a natural basketball player, doesn't work through when things aren't going his way, doesn't seem to work through his hips and knees and forearms, won't elbow when he could or should -- but all those things can be learned.

I just wish Alex Len would stay another year and learn them at Maryland. He should go get on the stuff like Olyn…. wait, that guy probably just worked real hard on his body. No, Alex has built his body up very nicely. It's his mindset and flexibility and reaction time that worry me.

Len is enigmatic.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yeah Len looked really good. Played with passion, effort, heart. Terps made a strong effort to get the ball in to him. Showed it all... soft touch around the basket, pick n pop, getting to the line and making them, running the floor. Makes you wonder what took so long. Why wasn't this happening all season??

True Terps have zero PG play. The guards they have are all trying to get there own shot, and utilizing Len is the last thing on their minds. Agree he's been very disappointing as a college player, but he is intriguing as a pro prospect. He is not a soft perimeter center like Bargnani. He is a low post center, with an array of offensive skills. His size and agility is impressive. I can see how he might thrive in the more wide open NBA.

Bennett is also intriguing. He's a PF though. His size, and those massive shoulders and long arms leave no doubt. And he's only going to get bigger and stronger. And his offensive skills at PF are more unique, and adding that weapon to the Wizards arsenal in the front court would vastly improve the team offense, provided Webster is retained.

I'm gonna say Noel, then Porter top my list for the Wizards. After that, it really gets murky. I'm thinking Bennett, then Len. But I'm not positive about the order. But I'd say that at least is my top 4, I'll be happy if we end up with any of these. My personal favorite though for the Wizards is Otto Porter.

This season has been great for Canadian prospects playing NCAA ball.

This season has been great for white ballers in NCAA ball.

C J McCullom, Mike Muscala, Kelly Olynyk, Doug McDermott, Nate Wojters among others because they are undervalued. I would take a high pick and move back to get these guys and I would not take a lot of guys who are being overhyped.

I am not as intrigued by Noel because I think he's a bit overhyped due to the impact Anthony Davis had.

If I just had to name three guys I would like to be Wizards they would be McCollum, McDermott, and either Olynyk or Muscala with a lower pick. Zach Marsall or Gorgui Deing would be ideal picks later, too. Olapido is a great player. Porter of course is a can't miss contributor.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

from other forum

POINT GUARD - Very deep and interesting group. Lots of variety, lots of unproven talent. Nobody stands out at the top, yet. Lots of potential 1st rounders though.

Top-10 (no order)
Myck Kabongo | PG | 6-1 170 | Texas | 19
Kyle Anderson | PG/SF | 6-8 220 | UCLA |19
Isaiah Canaan | PG | 6-0 190 | Murray St | 21
BJ Young | PG | 6-3 185 | Arkansas | 19
Lorenzo Brown | PG/SG | 6-4 185 | NC State | 21
CJ McCollum | PG | 6-3 185 | Lehigh | 20
Ryan Harrow | PG | 6-1 170 | Kentucky | 21
Trey Burke | PG | 5-11 185 | Michigan | 19
Phil Pressey | PG | 5-11 160 | Missouri | 21
Michael Carter-Williams | PG/SG | 6-5 175 | Syracuse | 20
OTHERS
Elijah Johnson | PG/SG | 6-3 190 | Kansas | 22
Ray McCallum | PG | 6-2 185 | Detroit | 21
Pierre Jackson | PG | 5-9 180 | Baylor | 21
Peyton Siva | PG | 5-11 175 | Louisville | 21
Aaron Craft | PG | 6-1 190 | Ohio St | 21
Dexter Strickland | PG/SG | 6-3 190 | North Carolina | 22

SHOOTING GUARD - Another deep group full of unproven talent. However, Muhammad easily stands out amongst them - and this group is promising for a league short on great 2s.

Top-10 (no order)
Shabazz Muhammad | SG/SF | 6-6 220 | UCLA | 18
Ricardo Ledo | SG | 6-6 210 | Providence | 19
Ben McLemore | SG | 6-4 200 | Kansas | 20
Wayne Blackshear | SG | 6-5 215 | Louisville | 20
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope | SG | 6-5 205 | Georgia | 19
Archie Goodwin | SG | 6-4 200 | Kentucky | 17
Tim Hardaway Jr | SG | 6-5 185 | Michigan | 20
Alex Abrines | SG | 6-5 190 | Barcelona | 19
Rodney Purvis | SG/PG | 6-4 190 | NC State | 18
Reggie Bullock | SG/SF | 6-6 195 | North Carolina | 21
OTHERS
Allen Crabbe | SG/SF | 6-6 205 | California | 21
CJ Wilcox | SG | 6-5 190 | Washington | 21
Michael Snaer | SG | 6-4 190 | Florida St | 22
Brandon Paul | SG | 6-4 205 | Illinois | 20
Jamaal Franklin | SG | 6-5 195 | San Diego St | 21
Kenny Boynton | SG/PG | 6-2 185 | Florida | 21
Vander Blue | SG/PG | 6-4 205 | Marquette | 21
Victor Oladipo | SG | 6-5 210 | Indiana | 21

SMALL FORWARD - Yet another deep group with a bunch of unproven guys (lol). Definitely a common theme for this '13 class.

Top-10 (no order)
Alex Poythress | SF | 6-8 220 | Kentucky | 18?
Tony Mitchell | SF/PF | 6-8 225 | North Texas | 20
LeBryan Nash | SF | 6-7 235 | Oklahoma St | 20
Glenn Robinson III | SF/SG | 6-6 200 | Michigan | 18
Dario Saric | SF/PF | 6-10 220 | Croatia | 18
Otto Porter | SF/PF | 6-8 210 | Georgetown | 19
Adonis Thomas | SF | 6-7 210 | Memphis | 19
Doug McDermott | SF/PF | 6-7 215 | Creighton | 20
CJ Fair | SF/PF | 6-8 215 | Syracuse |21
Jakarr Sampson | SF/PF | 6-8 215 | St John's | 19
OTHERS
Rodney Williams | SF | 6-7 205 | Minnesota | 21
DeShaun Thomas | SF/PF | 6-7 225 | Ohio St | 21
Branden Dawson | SF | 6-6 200 | Michigan St | 19
PJ Hairston | SF/SG | 6-5 230 | North Carolina | 19

POWER FORWARD - It seems like PF is often the strongest position annually, but this year it looks to be the weakest. There is decent depth however.

Top-10 (no order)
James Michael McAdoo | PF | 6-9 235 | North Carolina | 19
Isaiah Austin | PF/C | 7-0 215 | Baylor | 18
Patric Young | PF | 6-8 255 | Florida | 20
Mason Plumlee | PF | 6-11 225 | Duke | 22
CJ Leslie | PF/SF | 6-9 215 | NC State | 21
Anthony Bennett | PF/SF | 6-8 230 | UNLV | 19
Rakeem Christmas | PF/C | 6-9 240 | Syracuse | 20
Mike Moser | PF/SF | 6-8 225 | UNLV | 21
Andre Roberson | PF/SF | 6-7 210 | Colorado | 20
CJ Aiken | PF/SF | 6-9 205 | St Joseph's | 22
Trevor Mbakwe | PF | 6-8 240 | Minnesota | 23
OTHERS
Augusto Lima | PF | 6-9 235 | Brazil |
Alex Oriakhi | PF/C | 6-9 250 | Missouri | 23
Jarnell Stokes | PF | 6-9 250 | Tennessee | 18
Christian Watford | SF/PF | 6-9 230 | Indiana | 21
Chase Behanan | PF | 6-7 250 | Louisville | 20

CENTER - Possibly the best group of Cs in many years. Possibly four top-10 prospects amongst them. An enticing group to say the least.

Top-10 (no order)
Nerlens Noel | C/PF | 6-11 215 | Kentucky | 18
Cody Zeller | C/PF | 6-11 230 | Indiana | 19
Steven Adams | C/PF | 7-0 240 | Pittsburgh | 18
Rudy Gobert | C | 7-2 235 | France | 20
Alex Len | C | 7-1 225 | Maryland | 19
Jeff Withey | C | 7-0 240 | Kansas | 22
Alec Brown | C | 7-1 230 | Wisc-Greensboro | 20
Josh Smith | C | 6-9 285 | UCLA | 20
Gorgui Dieng | C | 6-11 225 | Louisville | 22
Kaleb Tarczewski | C | 7-0 245 | Arizona | 19
OTHERS
Adreian Payne | C/PF | 6-11 225 | Michigan St | 21
DeWayne Dedmon | C | 7-0 250 | USC | 23

Kyle Anderson, CJ Fair, ANDRE ROBERSON, Isaiah Canaan, Phil Pressey, Allen Crabbe, JAMAAL FRANKLIN are all studs. Many, many players on this list can step right in and give the Wizards a nuance they don't have.

Pressey is like Nate Robinson and little Earl Boykins. Canaan is like Derrick Fisher but more of a volume scorer. Andre Roberson is power rebounder and defender who can defend SFs, he's got the Faried motor. Allen Crabbe is a sleeper stud scorer.

I like the UNC duo of PJ Hairston and Reggie Bullock. Hairston is a go to scorer. Bullock has a great stroke.

Peyton Siva has a pretty good chance of riding a Final Four or championship into the second round if Louisville takes it all. He and Larkin can dominate games defensively because they are so quick. I have a lot of Samoan acquaintances and a good friend who is Samoan. The Wizards have a bunch of international players. Siva would be a big hit because he's a warrior. He is a leader. He is a winner. And he can play.

[Ruzious]

Yeah Len looked really good. Played with passion, effort, heart. Terps made a strong effort to get the ball in to him. Showed it all... soft touch around the basket, pick n pop, getting to the line and making them, running the floor. Makes you wonder what took so long. Why wasn't this happening all season??

True Terps have zero PG play. The guards they have are all trying to get there own shot, and utilizing Len is the last thing on their minds. Agree he's been very disappointing as a college player, but he is intriguing as a pro prospect. He is not a soft perimeter center like Bargnani. He is a low post center, with an array of offensive skills. His size and agility is impressive. I can see how he might thrive in the more wide open NBA.

Bennett is also intriguing. He's a PF though. His size, and those massive shoulders and long arms leave no doubt. And he's only going to get bigger and stronger. And his offensive skills at PF are more unique, and adding that weapon to the Wizards arsenal in the front court would vastly improve the team offense, provided Webster is retained.

I'm gonna say Noel, then Porter top my list for the Wizards. After that, it really gets murky. I'm thinking Bennett, then Len. But I'm not positive about the order. But I'd say that at least is my top 4, I'll be happy if we end up with any of these. My personal favorite though for the Wizards is Otto Porter.

This season has been great for Canadian prospects playing NCAA ball.

This season has been great for white ballers in NCAA ball.

C J McCullom, Mike Muscala, Kelly Olynyk, Doug McDermott, Nate Wojters among others because they are undervalued. I would take a high pick and move back to get these guys and I would not take a lot of guys who are being overhyped.

I am not as intrigued by Noel because I think he's a bit overhyped due to the impact Anthony Davis had.

If I just had to name three guys I would like to be Wizards they would be McCollum, McDermott, and either Olynyk or Muscala with a lower pick. Zach Marsall or Gorgui Deing would be ideal picks later, too. Olapido is a great player. Porter of course is a can't miss contributor.

When you say lower pick, I'm not sure what you mean. The Wiz could likely get Muscala with their 2nd round pick. Otoh, Olynyk has a good shot at being picked in the lottery. It's possible that the Wiz consider him with their 1st pick. Dieng will likely go before Muscala. I gotta admit, I don't know who Marsall is. Can you give us a short bio?

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Kyle Anderson, CJ Fair, ANDRE ROBERSON, Isaiah Canaan, Phil Pressey, Allen Crabbe, JAMAAL FRANKLIN are all studs. Many, many players on this list can step right in and give the Wizards a nuance they don't have.

Pressey is like Nate Robinson and little Earl Boykins. Canaan is like Derrick Fisher but more of a volume scorer. Andre Roberson is power rebounder and defender who can defend SFs, he's got the Faried motor. Allen Crabbe is a sleeper stud scorer.

I like the UNC duo of PJ Hairston and Reggie Bullock. Hairston is a go to scorer. Bullock has a great stroke.

Peyton Siva has a pretty good chance of riding a Final Four or championship into the second round if Louisville takes it all. He and Larkin can dominate games defensively because they are so quick. I have a lot of Samoan acquaintances and a good friend who is Samoan. The Wizards have a bunch of international players. Siva would be a big hit because he's a warrior. He is a leader. He is a winner. And he can play.

I don't want Kyle Anderson on my team - Yes, he makes plays, but he's a tweener in a bad way and is way too sloppy with the ball.

Fair might be a 2nd rounder who sticks. He's also a tweener, but at least he tries to fit into the team concept.

Franklin's got some bizarre stats - great at some things and terrible at others. I've never seen him or Crabbe or Canaan. Roberson sounds like a bigger Franklin. Unfortunately for them, basketball isn't a sport you can platoon players.

Hairston v Bullock is a good debate to have. Hairston's shot is acutally much purer looking than Bullock's, but Bullock hit the higher percentage of 3's. I've compared Bullock to Webster, and I think that fits. Hairston has a bit more offensive ability, but Bullock is the better all-around player at this point, imo.

Siva really isn't in Larkin's level as a pro prospect. Larkin is so much better offensively that it's hard to compare them. Defensively, I think Siva is helped by having Russ Smith there to smother opposing ball-handlers.

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I wonder why Marcus Smart isn't on that list KnightHonor linked to.