2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[Dat2U]

Say what you want about Dwight but he's still better than Marcin and easier to build around.

I think that's an outdated view of Dwight's current abilities. And unless it's DeMarcus Cousins it probably doesn't make sense to build around any NBA center in this day and age.

KAT is definitely worth building around. AD as well if he's a center

Well KAT played next so Dieng & Garnett most of the year so I don't know if he's the mold of your old school NBA center which I should have clarified. Obviously KAT & AD are two guys worth of building a team around.

[Dark Faze]

Say what you want about Dwight but he's still better than Marcin and easier to build around.

I think that's an outdated view of Dwight's current abilities. And unless it's DeMarcus Cousins it probably doesn't make sense to build around any NBA center in this day and age.

Is it? I'm not saying that to be snarky--just an honest question. He's still a 13 and 12 guy who's the best defensive guy on the market. And he's played with two of the highest usage guys you can think of on his last two teams between Harden and Kobe, so you have to believe there's at least SOME offensive upside there from playing with a guy like John.

I'm just saying building around Dwight and John would be easy and I believe the results would get us back to the second round in the eastern conference consistently.

As opposed to what we're doing now, which is to find this perfect 4 man to play alongside Gortat, trying to chase a trend that we're one of the latest teams to the party too.

I'm not saying Dwight is a better option than Horford, I'm just saying we can't just throw the idea away as if we're sure to have better options down the road. It doesn't take a crystal ball to see that there probably won't be. I think the only name we have left to strike out on would be DMC--and like hell if I'm going to wait two years again for another shot at a guy. Make the trade offers sure, but don't even think about holding out for future free agents.

I mean this is where we are right now. Wish we were someplace else but if your last option is Dwight...might as well go for Dwight.

[keynote]

So, after KD, *Ryan Anderson* is the next priority? Over Horford?

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/sources-kevin-durant-out-mind-wizards-set-sights-ryan-anderson

[nate33]

Dwight might not actually be the most god awful idea in the world. I don't think its Plan A, but we have to live with the hand we're given and building a great team around Gortat at center is going to be difficult. Say what you want about Dwight but he's still better than Marcin and easier to build around. If we could get Ariza back something like Wall/Beal/Oubre/Ariza/Dwight would be the best defensive team in the conference and could potentially make the conference finals.

I can't easily throw a team together to accomplish the same with Gortat at center.

I'd take Gortat over Dwight once you factor injuries and attitude. Gortat over Dwight is a no-brainer when you factor Dwight's future salary and his inevitable age-related decline.

I'd be willing to shop Gortat, but only if the plan is to replace him with someone the same age as Wall. Whiteside or Biyombo might make sense.

[Earth2Ted]

So, after KD, *Ryan Anderson* is the next priority? Over Horford?

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/sources-kevin-durant-out-mind-wizards-set-sights-ryan-anderson

Yeah, I'm gonna take a wild guess and say this is our big signing right here. It's either this or an over the ill big name like Howard, Noah, or Gasol.

[WallToWall]

I wish that KD didnt say he would make his mind up soon. I wish he would take his sweet old time. Our only hope of improving is to make trades. We could make trades that are in our favor, if there are teams (beyond the final 6) that think they have a shot at KD. At this point, I think we're better off not making any big signings. Not overspending could be the best thing we could do.

[gambitx777]

I say we floate Anderson a 10-12 mill fully guaranteed offer and see if he takes it. its an overpay but its not an awful over pay. offering anderson the max is a terrible idea.

[80sballboy]

I'm guessing the chances of getting Horford are almost nil so I guess Anderson is the next best thing but do not max him. Sounds like 15-17 million per year minimum for the guy who makes Brad Beal look durable. Love him at 10-12M off the bench but to get better, you have to put up $$$.

[keynote]

How is this franchise going to learn how to pitch to max FAs if we don't try pitching to max FAs!? Teams with zero cap room are figuring out ways to bring in players for meetings -- if only to build relationships for future opportunities, if nothing else. The Wizards get rebuffed by Durant, and we *immediately* retreat into our shell and start targeting dates with "nice personalities"?

[gambitx777]

How is this franchise going to learn how to pitch to max FAs if we don't try pitching to max FAs!? Teams with zero cap room are figuring out ways to bring in players for meetings -- if only to build relationships for future opportunities, if nothing else. The Wizards get rebuffed by Durant, and we *immediately* retreat into our shell and start targeting dates with "nice personalities"?

I think the mind set is that at least those nice personalities will put out and not stand us up.

[GoWizGo]

Thanks for the kind words payitforward and montestewart. I'll try to post more often

If this has already been written before, sorry for bringing it up again.

In an effort to praise themselves during the off-season, Ted and Ernie kept saying how they had their core in place. I'm sure Potential FAs didn't hear this but their agents did. Why would a potentially good FA want to come to DC if they know they won't have any opportunity to start and/or get minutes? You could overpay them but that doesn't work because everybody has Cap Space this Summer.

Plus, if they would happen to hit the jackpot and get a Al Horford-type in FA, any of the supposed "core in place" players, would probably either throw a temper-tantrum or quit of them team mentally. Then the Wiz would have to hope that Ernie can pull of a trade of equal value as soon as the first problem arises.

It's a mess. I hope i am wrong.

[gambitx777]

The problem is I think the players realize that to win a title you need to be 7-8 deep with starting level players, there is an increasing number of guys who are ok with being that 6,7and8th guy off the bench.

[MOrgil]

Wizards front office is just being embarrassed. Ryan Anderons? R u kidding? Go after Horford, or Batum maybe. They should just give up...

[WallToWall]

What do you think of Chandler Parsons... so that Wall and others can do P+R.
Parsons doesnt really play def very well due to injuries in the past (he cant move laterally very well). However, he will make for a good bench player with some good offensive skills against weaker bench players.
6'9" tweener type forward.
We could get him on the cheap probably.
Thoughts?

[WallToWall]

My fear is that b/c we missed out on Durant, Ernie's going to freak out and give Parsons the max.

Could be - and while Parsons is a good player, the Wiz would play him at stretch 4 - where he's not strong enough, long enough, and doesn't rebound well enough.

Dang it! Just saw this post. Should have read more before I made my previous post.
I do think its a "good" move (more like the best of the worst move if we sign free agents) to sign Parsons to a favorable contract. Other teams may shy away due to his injuries. He is certainly a serviceable tweener forward to come off the bench.

[RussellandFlow]

Parsons will not come cheap. He is a guy who will be looking for at least 15 mil per and to start at SF. Personally I do not feel he is worth it with his injury history.

[payitforward]

What would make you think we could sign Parsons "on the cheap"????

[80sballboy]

According to JMichael, it sounds like they are happy with their starting five, so they are trying to fill their bench. So happy with Markieff at the 4 and Otto at the 3 with Gortat at the 5 (affordable salaries), then why do you need Batum at the 3, Horford at the 4/5 and Whitside? I think that's what he's implying that basically it was KD or bust.

[Rafael122]

Based on what J Michael has been tweeting, it seems like they like Anderson up to a certain price and the focus would be on upgrading the bench unit. Guys like Batum and Parsons are good players, and maybe I'm a homer when I say this but I'd rather have Porter at $5.8 million than Batum at $22 million. So you got $35 mil to spend, who do you sign to improve the bench?

[Ruzious]

So, they're apparently targeting Darrell Arthur... rather than Durant. LOLOLOL. I've never been a fan of Arthur. Even with the NBA going to small ball - which makes up for his lack of strength, he's a well below average backup PF - and that's even with him finally developing an ok 3 point shot. He's a finesse PF with decent athleticism who just doesn't do a whole lot.

What they're doing is putting together a garbage bench to back up their mediocre starting unit. Wiz are not going to be in the playoffs next year without a major move that makes sense, and it seems unlikely they'll make a major move that makes any sense.