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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#681 » by TheBlackCzar » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:34 pm

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gesa2 wrote:Our current leadership seems to value smart players that won’t hurt team defense. Cam has talent but plays with blinders on a lot. Pass unless he comes cheap


Like Jordan Poole, right?

Generally speaking, teams want all their players to be able to play good defense, but you can overlook poor defense from a guy who is carrying your offense. Poole was carrying our offense. He posted 25 points per 36 minutes on a TS% of .591 for a team whose remaining teammates posted a TS% of .538.

Think about that for a minute. That's actually pretty damn good offensive production! He carried a USG% of 29% and posted a shooting efficiency 5.3 percentage points higher than the rest of the team!

If Whitmore could score like that, then maybe we could overlook his bad D too. But I seriously doubt he can score like that.



Damn thank you, listening to all this trade Poole **** is crazy.... Dude literally carried our team to multiple wins by himself... He ended 16 game losing streaks and all he gets is flack.... Damn he played better last year then he did when he was a champion.... Plus dude really is a positive influence on top of being our best scorer, so I'm like wtf are we trying to rush him out the door.....
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#682 » by TGW » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:52 pm

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Like Jordan Poole, right?

Generally speaking, teams want all their players to be able to play good defense, but you can overlook poor defense from a guy who is carrying your offense. Poole was carrying our offense. He posted 25 points per 36 minutes on a TS% of .591 for a team whose remaining teammates posted a TS% of .538.

Think about that for a minute. That's actually pretty damn good offensive production! He carried a USG% of 29% and posted a shooting efficiency 5.3 percentage points higher than the rest of the team!

If Whitmore could score like that, then maybe we could overlook his bad D too. But I seriously doubt he can score like that.



Damn thank you, listening to all this trade Poole **** is crazy.... Dude literally carried our team to multiple wins by himself... He ended 16 game losing streaks and all he gets is flack.... Damn he played better last year then he did when he was a champion.... Plus dude really is a positive influence on top of being our best scorer, so I'm like wtf are we trying to rush him out the door.....



It’s cause he’s TRASH. Just because that bozo happened to make some of the garbage shots he takes out of the flow of the offense doesn’t make him remotely good. Just go to any other teams board and get their opinion on Poole. He is one of the most unwanted, disliked players in the league. Only the most biased homer would argue that Poole is a commodity.

Dude is a certified clown.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#683 » by TheBlackCzar » Sat Jun 7, 2025 2:55 am

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nate33 wrote:Generally speaking, teams want all their players to be able to play good defense, but you can overlook poor defense from a guy who is carrying your offense. Poole was carrying our offense. He posted 25 points per 36 minutes on a TS% of .591 for a team whose remaining teammates posted a TS% of .538.

Think about that for a minute. That's actually pretty damn good offensive production! He carried a USG% of 29% and posted a shooting efficiency 5.3 percentage points higher than the rest of the team!

If Whitmore could score like that, then maybe we could overlook his bad D too. But I seriously doubt he can score like that.



Damn thank you, listening to all this trade Poole **** is crazy.... Dude literally carried our team to multiple wins by himself... He ended 16 game losing streaks and all he gets is flack.... Damn he played better last year then he did when he was a champion.... Plus dude really is a positive influence on top of being our best scorer, so I'm like wtf are we trying to rush him out the door.....



It’s cause he’s TRASH. Just because that bozo happened to make some of the garbage shots he takes out of the flow of the offense doesn’t make him remotely good. Just go to any other teams board and get their opinion on Poole. He is one of the most unwanted, disliked players in the league. Only the most biased homer would argue that Poole is a commodity.

Dude is a certified clown.



The flow of what offense... We didn't have no real offensive setup last year.... What were you watching... We let our youngings run free tossing up whatever shot they wanted until they started forming more of a role later in the season as they improved there play... Without Poole's scoring in some of our games we'd have not even scored 90 points.... I don't care what other fans opinions are outside of GS.... If he didn't play for your team I'm not too concerned about your opinion.....

Trash, clown, bozo.... You sound really in your feelings... You need to think about how you're addressing young men who positively impacting people out here.... I didn't like Poole before he came here, mainly because I didn't know who or how he was.... My original uninformed opinion pre-Wizards was this dude was a loud mouth pretty boy who was jive like a sucka that got knocked out...... But my opinion changed over time when I realized he's a solid dude (Draymond was on some sucka moves) and I was completely presumptuous and incorrect in my assessment of him... Poole's the most encouraging dude on the team, and the disrespect he gets is ridiculous, considering how much time he puts into DC...... These descriptions you are giving ain't it.... You can say he needs to work on his game and play harder on D, or try to play more like a PG even though he's not PG by nature he's a 2.... That's cool but you jive going to far with the names you labeling on ole boy....

Repeat after me... GS doesn't win a 4th title without Jordan Poole's contributions.....Ok so the fact that this past season was better than the season that got him this $35m/yr deal he has now, while having no other consistent scorer doesn't mean anything especially since he didn't have Steph, Klay and Dray to help get him open looks...... All ya'll stat geeks have no clue what it takes to score 20+ppg in the NBA as the #1 option... You'll tell me how many guys did it, and it'll just prove my point even further so save the lookups (Not even 8% of the NBA)......

Now my thoughts on Poole as a player is he's very streaky, can shoot you into a game or shoot you out, depending on the night, he's inconsistent as a defender, however he improved his effort and capability considerably this year and could get even better with less of a scoring load....

He doesn't have an elite first step but his ball handling is exceptional and he has seemingly too many moves as I think he overcomplicates things sometimes, instead of making a move and going... His lack of elite explosiveness kind of works against him defensively, but he has quick hands and with more experience around better defenders could continue improving... I think he's best as a 6th man for quick offense off the bench and that will ultimately be his role on this team.....
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#684 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:09 am

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TGW wrote:
gesa2 wrote:Our current leadership seems to value smart players that won’t hurt team defense. Cam has talent but plays with blinders on a lot. Pass unless he comes cheap


Like Jordan Poole, right?

Generally speaking, teams want all their players to be able to play good defense, but you can overlook poor defense from a guy who is carrying your offense. Poole was carrying our offense. He posted 25 points per 36 minutes on a TS% of .591 for a team whose remaining teammates posted a TS% of .538.

Think about that for a minute. That's actually pretty damn good offensive production! He carried a USG% of 29% and posted a shooting efficiency 5.3 percentage points higher than the rest of the team!

If Whitmore could score like that, then maybe we could overlook his bad D too. But I seriously doubt he can score like that.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#685 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:13 am

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nate33 wrote:I think you have to be careful about this. I agree that the current lottery system seriously reduce the benefits of tanking. So in the abstract, I don't really care too much whether the Wizards finish with the worst record or the fifth-worst record. There is little difference in the lotto odds either way. You can make a case that the cost of instilling a loser mindset aren't worth the benefit of incrementally higher odds of a top 4 pick.

But that's only with respect to how it affects the lottery odds. There is another dynamic at play: the pick we owe New York. On that subject, I wholeheartedly endorse tanking. It's one thing to fall from the 5th pick to the 6th pick like what happened this year when we beat Utah. It's another thing entirely to fall from picking in the top 8 in the lottery to not picking at all just because we were foolish enough to win 28 games instead of 24.

Yeah, we are going to tank. Well, correction - we are going to play our youngsters and FRP big minutes and that will lead to tanking.

There is zero chance we won't do this with the '26 draft coming up. Okay, less than zero.


This is the last year of trying to tank i believe. It was always a 3-year plan with eyes on the '26 draft. The '27 draft class looks unremarkable so far anyways so I see little reason to try to undecut the win total any further. The '26-'27 season is when we should expect our young guys to be good enough to make at least a play-in run with a couple of mature vets sprinkled in.
It's going to be harder to get buy in on tanking this season. Players want to grow and expand their game. Losing on purpose while sitting Middleton, Champagnie, and any other winning player is going to be less palatable this season.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#686 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:19 am

AFM wrote:Put queen on that roster and we are a top 4 seed.
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AFM wrote:Put queen on that roster and we are a top 4 seed.


you forgot...."in the midwest bracket of March Madness."
Why is Queen still at #8-#12 in mocks?

The Wizards are DUMB to think he can't help. If anything, draft Quuen and Sorber. Get two bigs.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#687 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:22 am

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TheBlackCzar wrote:

Damn thank you, listening to all this trade Poole **** is crazy.... Dude literally carried our team to multiple wins by himself... He ended 16 game losing streaks and all he gets is flack.... Damn he played better last year then he did when he was a champion.... Plus dude really is a positive influence on top of being our best scorer, so I'm like wtf are we trying to rush him out the door.....



It’s cause he’s TRASH. Just because that bozo happened to make some of the garbage shots he takes out of the flow of the offense doesn’t make him remotely good. Just go to any other teams board and get their opinion on Poole. He is one of the most unwanted, disliked players in the league. Only the most biased homer would argue that Poole is a commodity.

Dude is a certified clown.



The flow of what offense... We didn't have no real offensive setup last year.... What were you watching... We let our youngings run free tossing up whatever shot they wanted until they started forming more of a role later in the season as they improved there play... Without Poole's scoring in some of our games we'd have not even scored 90 points.... I don't care what other fans opinions are outside of GS.... If he didn't play for your team I'm not too concerned about your opinion.....

Trash, clown, bozo.... You sound really in your feelings... You need to think about how you're addressing young men who positively impacting people out here.... I didn't like Poole before he came here, mainly because I didn't know who or how he was.... My original uninformed opinion pre-Wizards was this dude was a loud mouth pretty boy who was jive like a sucka that got knocked out...... But my opinion changed over time when I realized he's a solid dude (Draymond was on some sucka moves) and I was completely presumptuous and incorrect in my assessment of him... Poole's the most encouraging dude on the team, and the disrespect he gets is ridiculous, considering how much time he puts into DC...... These descriptions you are giving ain't it.... You can say he needs to work on his game and play harder on D, or try to play more like a PG even though he's not PG by nature he's a 2.... That's cool but you jive going to far with the names you labeling on ole boy....

Repeat after me... GS doesn't win a 4th title without Jordan Poole's contributions.....Ok so the fact that this past season was better than the season that got him this $35m/yr deal he has now, while having no other consistent scorer doesn't mean anything especially since he didn't have Steph, Klay and Dray to help get him open looks...... All ya'll stat geeks have no clue what it takes to score 20+ppg in the NBA as the #1 option... You'll tell me how many guys did it, and it'll just prove my point even further so save the lookups (Not even 8% of the NBA)......

Now my thoughts on Poole as a player is he's very streaky, can shoot you into a game or shoot you out, depending on the night, he's inconsistent as a defender, however he improved his effort and capability considerably this year and could get even better with less of a scoring load....

He doesn't have an elite first step but his ball handling is exceptional and he has seemingly too many moves as I think he overcomplicates things sometimes, instead of making a move and going... His lack of elite explosiveness kind of works against him defensively, but he has quick hands and with more experience around better defenders could continue improving... I think he's best as a 6th man for quick offense off the bench and that will ultimately be his role on this team.....
Poole is a streaky scorer.

His gift is he hits logo shot threes with the best of them.

He can and has helped a legitimately good team as a third scorer.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#688 » by dckingsfan » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:39 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Yeah, we are going to tank. Well, correction - we are going to play our youngsters and FRP big minutes and that will lead to tanking.

There is zero chance we won't do this with the '26 draft coming up. Okay, less than zero.

This is the last year of trying to tank i believe. It was always a 3-year plan with eyes on the '26 draft. The '27 draft class looks unremarkable so far anyways so I see little reason to try to undecut the win total any further. The '26-'27 season is when we should expect our young guys to be good enough to make at least a play-in run with a couple of mature vets sprinkled in.
It's going to be harder to get buy in on tanking this season. Players want to grow and expand their game. Losing on purpose while sitting Middleton, Champagnie, and any other winning player is going to be less palatable this season.

I don't think players should ever try to tank. I think they should always be trying to improve.

But......... the FO and coach can be in lock step and and play develop the youngsters.

If Middleton is playing really well - the FO can just trade him (that is if he is healthy enough to play 1/2 the games :wink: ). Have Sarr as your starting C, a healthy dose of Poole and Kispert... and the floor can drop under the defense. Make sure you play AJ, and our two new FRPs and Bob's your uncle - back in the lottery and shooting for a record of 25 wins or less and a bottom 8 after the ping pong balls have settled into their slots.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#689 » by DCZards » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:42 am

TGW wrote:It’s cause he’s TRASH. Just because that bozo happened to make some of the garbage shots he takes out of the flow of the offense doesn’t make him remotely good. Just go to any other teams board and get their opinion on Poole. He is one of the most unwanted, disliked players in the league. Only the most biased homer would argue that Poole is a commodity.

Dude is a certified clown.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#690 » by WizarDynasty » Sat Jun 7, 2025 5:44 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TheBlackCzar wrote:
TGW wrote:

It’s cause he’s TRASH. Just because that bozo happened to make some of the garbage shots he takes out of the flow of the offense doesn’t make him remotely good. Just go to any other teams board and get their opinion on Poole. He is one of the most unwanted, disliked players in the league. Only the most biased homer would argue that Poole is a commodity.

Dude is a certified clown.



The flow of what offense... We didn't have no real offensive setup last year.... What were you watching... We let our youngings run free tossing up whatever shot they wanted until they started forming more of a role later in the season as they improved there play... Without Poole's scoring in some of our games we'd have not even scored 90 points.... I don't care what other fans opinions are outside of GS.... If he didn't play for your team I'm not too concerned about your opinion.....

Trash, clown, bozo.... You sound really in your feelings... You need to think about how you're addressing young men who positively impacting people out here.... I didn't like Poole before he came here, mainly because I didn't know who or how he was.... My original uninformed opinion pre-Wizards was this dude was a loud mouth pretty boy who was jive like a sucka that got knocked out...... But my opinion changed over time when I realized he's a solid dude (Draymond was on some sucka moves) and I was completely presumptuous and incorrect in my assessment of him... Poole's the most encouraging dude on the team, and the disrespect he gets is ridiculous, considering how much time he puts into DC...... These descriptions you are giving ain't it.... You can say he needs to work on his game and play harder on D, or try to play more like a PG even though he's not PG by nature he's a 2.... That's cool but you jive going to far with the names you labeling on ole boy....

Repeat after me... GS doesn't win a 4th title without Jordan Poole's contributions.....Ok so the fact that this past season was better than the season that got him this $35m/yr deal he has now, while having no other consistent scorer doesn't mean anything especially since he didn't have Steph, Klay and Dray to help get him open looks...... All ya'll stat geeks have no clue what it takes to score 20+ppg in the NBA as the #1 option... You'll tell me how many guys did it, and it'll just prove my point even further so save the lookups (Not even 8% of the NBA)......

Now my thoughts on Poole as a player is he's very streaky, can shoot you into a game or shoot you out, depending on the night, he's inconsistent as a defender, however he improved his effort and capability considerably this year and could get even better with less of a scoring load....

He doesn't have an elite first step but his ball handling is exceptional and he has seemingly too many moves as I think he overcomplicates things sometimes, instead of making a move and going... His lack of elite explosiveness kind of works against him defensively, but he has quick hands and with more experience around better defenders could continue improving... I think he's best as a 6th man for quick offense off the bench and that will ultimately be his role on this team.....
Poole is a streaky scorer.

His gift is he hits logo shot threes with the best of them.

He can and has helped a legitimately good team as a third scorer.


Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent. Those shots he shoots at less than 50 percent outside of three should have gone to a true engine, something this team doesnt have yet. Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer and therefore a liability unless you need a rest for your true engine to get a breather.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#691 » by WallToWall » Sat Jun 7, 2025 6:05 am

I want to trade our vets, such as Poole, Kispert, Sharp, Middleton, and Holmes, for what I consider two good reasons.
1. so that we can get maximum value for them. This is as high as their value will get. There’s no point in keeping them - they will not shift to another gear, and there is possibility of injury which could diminish their value.
2. This is year 2-3 for our young players. They need to shine, if they’re going to shine. For that to happen, they need playing time. Having vets in their spot will take away those valuable minutes. All our starters and next in line backups should be players drafted in the last 3 yrs.

I am mindful of the positives, such as mentorship, that these vets provide. They can teach these young players the ways of the NBA, how to prepare, share knowledge about coaches and other players, along with many other intangibles.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#692 » by TheBlackCzar » Sat Jun 7, 2025 6:34 am

WallToWall wrote:I want to trade our vets, such as Poole, Kispert, Sharp, Middleton, and Holmes, for what I consider two good reasons.
1. so that we can get maximum value for them. This is as high as their value will get. There’s no point in keeping them - they will not shift to another gear, and there is possibility of injury which could diminish their value.
2. This is year 2-3 for our young players. They need to shine, if they’re going to shine. For that to happen, they need playing time. Having vets in their spot will take away those valuable minutes. All our starters and next in line backups should be players drafted in the last 3 yrs.

I am mindful of the positives, such as mentorship, that these vets provide. They can teach these young players the ways of the NBA, how to prepare, share knowledge about coaches and other players, along with many other intangibles.
But it’s time. It’s time to complete the deconstruction (as Dawkins calls it).



This isn't 2k..... We're not going to get Value for Smart or Middleton as we got rewarded for taking them on, so get this out ya head.... Holmes is not going to get anything other than a 2nd and we have a million of those already...... Kispert is limited and also a negative trade asset as of now, which leaves Poole the only reliable scorer on the roster... I doubt they are going to trade these guys, mentorships is about more than just basketball.... These dudes probably don't know how to manage money, invest, buy a house, set up everything around them officially... This is why vets are on teams.... This is why real life isn't 2k.....
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#693 » by TheBlackCzar » Sat Jun 7, 2025 6:38 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TheBlackCzar wrote:

The flow of what offense... We didn't have no real offensive setup last year.... What were you watching... We let our youngings run free tossing up whatever shot they wanted until they started forming more of a role later in the season as they improved there play... Without Poole's scoring in some of our games we'd have not even scored 90 points.... I don't care what other fans opinions are outside of GS.... If he didn't play for your team I'm not too concerned about your opinion.....

Trash, clown, bozo.... You sound really in your feelings... You need to think about how you're addressing young men who positively impacting people out here.... I didn't like Poole before he came here, mainly because I didn't know who or how he was.... My original uninformed opinion pre-Wizards was this dude was a loud mouth pretty boy who was jive like a sucka that got knocked out...... But my opinion changed over time when I realized he's a solid dude (Draymond was on some sucka moves) and I was completely presumptuous and incorrect in my assessment of him... Poole's the most encouraging dude on the team, and the disrespect he gets is ridiculous, considering how much time he puts into DC...... These descriptions you are giving ain't it.... You can say he needs to work on his game and play harder on D, or try to play more like a PG even though he's not PG by nature he's a 2.... That's cool but you jive going to far with the names you labeling on ole boy....

Repeat after me... GS doesn't win a 4th title without Jordan Poole's contributions.....Ok so the fact that this past season was better than the season that got him this $35m/yr deal he has now, while having no other consistent scorer doesn't mean anything especially since he didn't have Steph, Klay and Dray to help get him open looks...... All ya'll stat geeks have no clue what it takes to score 20+ppg in the NBA as the #1 option... You'll tell me how many guys did it, and it'll just prove my point even further so save the lookups (Not even 8% of the NBA)......

Now my thoughts on Poole as a player is he's very streaky, can shoot you into a game or shoot you out, depending on the night, he's inconsistent as a defender, however he improved his effort and capability considerably this year and could get even better with less of a scoring load....

He doesn't have an elite first step but his ball handling is exceptional and he has seemingly too many moves as I think he overcomplicates things sometimes, instead of making a move and going... His lack of elite explosiveness kind of works against him defensively, but he has quick hands and with more experience around better defenders could continue improving... I think he's best as a 6th man for quick offense off the bench and that will ultimately be his role on this team.....
Poole is a streaky scorer.

His gift is he hits logo shot threes with the best of them.

He can and has helped a legitimately good team as a third scorer.


Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent. Those shots he shoots at less than 50 percent outside of three should have gone to a true engine, something this team doesnt have yet. Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer and therefore a liability unless you need a rest for your true engine to get a breather.



As you said we haven't had an engine in 40+ years so why does it matter... We have a team that struggles scoring without Poole's shooting, so he's here because he can score... Even if it's not at this efficiency that only a handful of players have, despite the fact only one is still playing really just proves that you don't need an engine.. You can win without one.... The new NBA is about a collection, not a player or even a big 3... It's about overall team balance.... The two finals teams exemplify this.....
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#694 » by 9 and 20 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 7:13 am

The engine depends on the vehicle. Wiz been a Yugo forever. Maybe a Lada. If OKC is a Ducati, Wiz are a Ural. In that sense, Poole is fine, for at least another year.
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Post#695 » by payitforward » Sat Jun 7, 2025 1:43 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent.... Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer.

Huh? Pretty rare for me to check in to defend Poole, but this is just plain false.

Jordan Poole was "an efficient volume scorer" this last season! He shot the 2 at 51%. He shot the 3 at 37.8%. His efg% was 54.4%, & hia TS% was 59.1% Those are all outstanding numbers -- especially at his volume (over 20 shots/5.5 FTAs per 40 minutes).

As well, Jordan was also substantially above average in assists & steals.

The only significant problems in Jordan Poole's performane are excessive turnovers & too many fouls.
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Post#696 » by dckingsfan » Sat Jun 7, 2025 1:43 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent. Those shots he shoots at less than 50 percent outside of three should have gone to a true engine, something this team doesnt have yet. Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer and therefore a liability unless you need a rest for your true engine to get a breather.

But he believes himself to be a Honeywell AGT1500 and why he is such a great tank driver :D

Honestly though, he doesn't carry a bad % for his volume. Actually, if he would just stay away from those 10-15 foot shots he would be pretty high up there. And even then - it is just a small percentage of his shots.

His problem is he doesn't have the handles (IMO) or passing ability to be the #1 option. He is a 3rd or 4 option that believes he is a #1 option. We just need to continue to start him to continue the tank (IMO).
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#697 » by dckingsfan » Sat Jun 7, 2025 1:54 pm

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WizarDynasty wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Poole is a streaky scorer.

His gift is he hits logo shot threes with the best of them.

He can and has helped a legitimately good team as a third scorer.

Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent. Those shots he shoots at less than 50 percent outside of three should have gone to a true engine, something this team doesnt have yet. Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer and therefore a liability unless you need a rest for your true engine to get a breather.

As you said we haven't had an engine in 40+ years so why does it matter... We have a team that struggles scoring without Poole's shooting, so he's here because he can score... Even if it's not at this efficiency that only a handful of players have, despite the fact only one is still playing really just proves that you don't need an engine.. You can win without one.... The new NBA is about a collection, not a player or even a big 3... It's about overall team balance.... The two finals teams exemplify this.....

SGA says hello... Haliburton says WTF (okay, maybe not the definition of an engine but a ridiculously good offensive player and + defender)...

And doc in the background nodding that I wanted Deni over Haliburton :ouch:
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#698 » by 9 and 20 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 9:58 pm

Twitter brings up Derozan for Smart. We also get a 2nd rounder.

Derozan is still a decent player but shouldn't be playing for us. Maybe send Middleton instead, and route Derozan to a third team? We get a worse player than Derozan but more than one second rounder out of the trade.
Can't say I do. Who else gonna shoot?
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#699 » by TheBlackCzar » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:20 am

dckingsfan wrote:
TheBlackCzar wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:Jordan Poole has never been close to an engine. He has proven that he cant shoot volume at .50 percent. Look at his 2pt shooting percentage as volume has increased. Its not close to 50 percent. Those shots he shoots at less than 50 percent outside of three should have gone to a true engine, something this team doesnt have yet. Jordan will never be an efficient volume scorer and therefore a liability unless you need a rest for your true engine to get a breather.

As you said we haven't had an engine in 40+ years so why does it matter... We have a team that struggles scoring without Poole's shooting, so he's here because he can score... Even if it's not at this efficiency that only a handful of players have, despite the fact only one is still playing really just proves that you don't need an engine.. You can win without one.... The new NBA is about a collection, not a player or even a big 3... It's about overall team balance.... The two finals teams exemplify this.....

SGA says hello... Haliburton says WTF (okay, maybe not the definition of an engine but a ridiculously good offensive player and + defender)...

And doc in the background nodding that I wanted Deni over Haliburton :ouch:



RIF......

WizD stated a few posts back it was only like 4 or 5 engines in the NBA right now, SGA being one of them... Halli was not in that group, hence why I stated what i said.....
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#700 » by TheBlackCzar » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:29 am

9 and 20 wrote:Twitter brings up Derozan for Smart. We also get a 2nd rounder.

Derozan is still a decent player but shouldn't be playing for us. Maybe send Middleton instead, and route Derozan to a third team? We get a worse player than Derozan but more than one second rounder out of the trade.



I think we should trade a 2nd rounder and Richaun Holmes for Paul George and #3. We should be rewarded for eating that contract, so why not.... Draft Ace, Fears, Queen and be rolling if we get first next year or not......

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