Wizards Board COVID-19 Thread

Kanyewest · Post #721 » by **Kanyewest** » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:09 am

Good job Maryland

https://globalepidemics.org/key-metrics-for-covid-suppression/

Post #722 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:15 pm

Some good news and bad news on the omicron front. Vaccines still effective enough to stop the virus in its tracks if everybody got vaccinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2022/vaccine-omicron-effectiveness/?itid=hp_pandemic

Dat2U · Post #723 » by **Dat2U** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:20 am

Zonkerbl wrote:Some good news and bad news on the omicron front. Vaccines still effective enough to stop the virus in its tracks if everybody got vaccinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2022/vaccine-omicron-effectiveness/?itid=hp_pandemic

Nothing but proproganda and lies.

The more time passes the more I'm glad I didn't get vaccinated.

bsilver · Post #724 » by **bsilver** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:42 am

My wife and I got Covid on July 8th while vacationing in Scotland. Both fully vaccinated and boosted. Pretty sick for 2-3 days, and then rapid recovery. Felt similar to a cold. According to CDC and Scottish guidelines we could venture out after 5 days if felt better with no fever. Happy we were vaccinated, considering the risk of more serious illness. We’re both in our 70s.

If you go overseas, make sure have a good supply (the whole bottle) of your prescription medications. It will avoid major hassle and expense. Also, decide what to do if you get Covid and are supposed to fly home. Not supposed to fly, but many do anyway. Staying usually very expensive, so many fly home anyway.

Kanyewest · Post #725 » by **Kanyewest** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:29 pm

Yesterday, my friend was telling me that he had long covid for a year (breathing, twitching eye, weight loss) . He claimed that getting the shot helped ease his symptoms. Note he got covid back in 2020 and got the J&J vaccine.

DCZards · Post #726 » by **DCZards** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:01 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Some good news and bad news on the omicron front. Vaccines still effective enough to stop the virus in its tracks if everybody got vaccinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2022/vaccine-omicron-effectiveness/?itid=hp_pandemic

Nothing but proproganda and lies.

The more time passes the more I'm glad I didn't get vaccinated.

Where’s the propaganda and lies? Seems like a fact-based article by credible journalists.

It’s good that you’re glad you didn’t get vaccinated. I’m happy for you. But that doesn’t make facts that contradict your opinion or personal experience “propaganda and lies.”

Post #727 » by **nate33** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:07 pm

I caught Covid in early 2020 with mild symptoms. I had a 3-day mild headache and maybe 5-days of general low energy where I didn't feel like working out.

I've made no effort to social distance or wear a mask ever since, and I haven't caught it again. Likewise for my wife and my three kids. Four of the five of us remain unvaccinated. (One of my kids is vaccinated because she was required to get it for college, but she caught Covid before vaccination so she should have the full range of natural protection rather than only the spike-protein protection from the vaccine.)

DCZards · Post #728 » by **DCZards** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:25 pm

I got COVID around Christmas. As did my wife and daughter. Probably omicron. We all were vaccinated. Mild symptoms.

I’m now fully boosted and continue to wear a mask indoors.

bsilver · Post #729 » by **bsilver** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:55 pm

Covid statistics are probably are probably way off now. Most I know that got Covid caught it in 2022 and were vaccinated. Most self tested and didn’t report it anywhere. Even the more serious cases didn’t require treatment. Just ride it out at home. Even if they called their doctor, don’t know if it gets recorded.

Post #730 » by **Zonkerbl** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:42 pm

haven't had COVID yet, unless that really bad stomch flu I had was the COVID. Everyone I know (my family, friends, and coworkers) has had COVID though, but they're all vaccinated/double boosted and it's been mild.

New variant is supposed to be pretty bad though.

We took the worst possible path through COVID and a million people died, probably a good 900k people more than was necessary. A friend of mine from HS died in April 2020. Another friend who died at 50 from early onset alzheimer's also had COVID at the time of her death. This was a huge, unnecessary disaster. But at least Trump won the election! Oh, wait, no he didn't, so it was all pointless. Great job everyone.

dckingsfan · Post #731 » by **dckingsfan** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:11 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:haven't had COVID yet, unless that really bad stomch flu I had was the COVID. Everyone I know (my family, friends, and coworkers) has had COVID though, but they're all vaccinated/double boosted and it's been mild.

New variant is supposed to be pretty bad though.

We took the worst possible path through COVID and a million people died, probably a good 900k people more than was necessary. A friend of mine from HS died in April 2020. Another friend who died at 50 from early onset alzheimer's also had COVID at the time of her death. This was a huge, unnecessary disaster. But at least Trump won the election! Oh, wait, no he didn't, so it was all pointless. Great job everyone.

Such a small price to pay...

Post #732 » by **Zonkerbl** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 8:46 pm

This is the first time I've ever seen a President advocate for the death of his most reliable voters.

Not counting the "blunders" early on that led to the disease spreading much faster than it should have, just counting from when vaccines became available, more than 300,000 people have died because they didn't get vaccinated, most of them in counties that voted for Trump.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1098543849/pro-trump-counties-continue-to-suffer-far-higher-covid-death-tolls

COVID is a really good example of how believing people who are more interested in acquiring and keeping political power than your personal well being can literally kill you.

gesa2 · Post #733 » by **gesa2** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:09 pm

DCZards wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Some good news and bad news on the omicron front. Vaccines still effective enough to stop the virus in its tracks if everybody got vaccinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2022/vaccine-omicron-effectiveness/?itid=hp_pandemic

Nothing but proproganda and lies.

The more time passes the more I'm glad I didn't get vaccinated.

Where’s the propaganda and lies? Seems like a fact-based article by credible journalists.

It’s good that you’re glad you didn’t get vaccinated. I’m happy for you. But that doesn’t make facts that contradict your opinion or personal experience “propaganda and lies.”

Agree. Love you on this forum DAT2U and I’m really glad you haven’t gotten sick. But to all who give their individual experience as evidence that the population data is wrong I have some Summer League stats I’d like to sell you on…

Kanyewest · Post #734 » by **Kanyewest** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:35 pm

My uncle died of covid- he was partially vaccinated but was already high risk and couldn't get access to a hospital as they were full
My aunt survived
My dad's cousin died
My cousin was fine - fully vaccinated although not boosted
My sister had a severe reaction- although she was fine
My niece had fevers up to 103 but ultimately was fine - she was unvaccinated since she was under 5
My nephew had little to no symptom's-
My brother in law's case was mild

Post #735 » by **Zonkerbl** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:07 pm

It's a shame there are people who would rather believe a liar who tells lies they want to believe rather than believing people who are trying their hardest to keep you from dying and have zero incentive to do otherwise. It's an even bigger shame there are evil people out there willing to tell lies that people want to hear even though it will kill - not just the true believers! - but everyone around those true believers. Many, many people are dead or have lifelong heart disease now because of those evil people. First and foremost, Trump. Why anyone would believe a single word that comes out of the antichrist's mouth is beyond me. If you're antivaxx for some other reason, I mean, there is a statistically significant portion of the population who are just not going to comply. But if you're antivaxx *only* because Trump was worried COVID would cause a recession, which would hurt his reelection chances, so he made a deliberate and intentional decision to kill more than a million Americans by telling his followers COVID is a hoax, I have to shake my head at you. Like, ok, even smart people can be gullible and get sucked into a cult, we've seen that in the documentary about NXIVM. But at some point you have to smack yourself in the face and go, what the hell am I thinking? And only you can do that. I mean, I'm happy to smack you in the face, verbally, but I know it won't do any good. I keep smacking anyway. Maybe I can just smack some common sense in through your face pores eventually.

Dat2U · Post #736 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:04 pm

gesa2 wrote:
DCZards wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Nothing but proproganda and lies.

The more time passes the more I'm glad I didn't get vaccinated.

Where’s the propaganda and lies? Seems like a fact-based article by credible journalists.

It’s good that you’re glad you didn’t get vaccinated. I’m happy for you. But that doesn’t make facts that contradict your opinion or personal experience “propaganda and lies.”

Agree. Love you on this forum DAT2U and I’m really glad you haven’t gotten sick. But to all who give their individual experience as evidence that the population data is wrong I have some Summer League stats I’d like to sell you on…

We could say the same about believing everything the government says or buying any statistics put out by the cdc.

Dat2U · Post #737 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:07 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:It's a shame there are people who would rather believe a liar who tells lies they want to believe rather than believing people who are trying their hardest to keep you from dying and have zero incentive to do otherwise. It's an even bigger shame there are evil people out there willing to tell lies that people want to hear even though it will kill - not just the true believers! - but everyone around those true believers. Many, many people are dead or have lifelong heart disease now because of those evil people. First and foremost, Trump. Why anyone would believe a single word that comes out of the antichrist's mouth is beyond me. If you're antivaxx for some other reason, I mean, there is a statistically significant portion of the population who are just not going to comply. But if you're antivaxx *only* because Trump was worried COVID would cause a recession, which would hurt his reelection chances, so he made a deliberate and intentional decision to kill more than a million Americans by telling his followers COVID is a hoax, I have to shake my head at you. Like, ok, even smart people can be gullible and get sucked into a cult, we've seen that in the documentary about NXIVM. But at some point you have to smack yourself in the face and go, what the hell am I thinking? And only you can do that. I mean, I'm happy to smack you in the face, verbally, but I know it won't do any good. I keep smacking anyway. Maybe I can just smack some common sense in through your face pores eventually.

Its so damn lazy to blame Trump for everything. Oh I think he's a terrible human being and the worst of the worst but there are alot of unvaccinated minorities that have never given a 2nd thought to anything Trump has uttered.

Post #738 » by **Zonkerbl** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:37 pm

Yeah no I talked to folks in Anacostia and I get it. The guys who were subjects of eugenics experiments in the fifties [correction: from 1932 to 1972, holy crap] get a pass. I pick on Trump and his supporters because those guys have no excuse.

tleikheen · Post #739 » by **tleikheen** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:58 pm

We could say the same about believing everything the government says or buying any statistics put out by the cdc.

Did you treat the frontline Drs,RT's and Nurses as if they are liars too, as if they are the enemy because they work in the hospitals where the statistics are drawn from by the CDC.
My wife has treated hundreds and hundreds of Covid infected patients on the frontline as a hospitalist Dr. Luckily she was at a place where she was appreciated and valued during the worst.
One thing we have seen from the start is the tRumpsters have never cared about the older people dying off .Even now its the older people and those with pre existing conditions that still die. All my family have been vaccinated and still wear masks to protect those elders and I havent missed work or stop making money by being safe and following guidelines.

DCZards · Post #740 » by **DCZards** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:43 pm

tleikheen wrote:
We could say the same about believing everything the government says or buying any statistics put out by the cdc.

Did you treat the frontline Drs,RT's and Nurses as if they are liars too, as if they are the enemy because they work in the hospitals where the statistics are drawn from by the CDC.
My wife has treated hundreds and hundreds of Covid infected patients on the frontline as a hospitalist Dr. Luckily she was at a place where she was appreciated and valued during the worst.
One thing we have seen from the start is the tRumpsters have never cared about the older people dying off .Even now its the older people and those with pre existing conditions that still die. All my family have been vaccinated and still wear masks to protect those elders and I havent missed work or stop making money by being safe and following guidelines.

Yeah, we really have to stop this demeaning of the “government” -- and those who work for it by association. It’s a page out of the Trump/Republican playbook that needs to be shredded.

Do people who work for the government and the CDC make mistakes? Absolutely. But are they liars and cheats whose goal in life is to mislead the American people? Not a chance.