2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

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Someone else mentioned Ezeli, and that's another solid option for a back up C.

Nah, I expect him to get starter's money from somebody that misses out on Howard/Whiteside/Horford. Same goes for a guy like Mahinmi. Not the max, but if Biyombo gets something in the $12-15 range, then the youngish guys in the next tier are going to get around $10M IMO.

For a backup C, even in this new cap economy, I'm still looking at MLE-sized deals as the target. That means I would agree with looking in this tier:

1 - Dewayne Dedmon (RFA)
2 - Cole Aldrich (UFA)
3 - Trade for Jeff Withey
4 - Timofey Mozgov (UFA)
5 - Zaza Pachulia

He also mentioned Hibbert, but I'd pass on him.

We need to make future-oriented moves. Hibbert, Mozgov & Pachulia don't qualify. Aldrich has become a very productive player overall; assuming he doesn't command big $$, I'd sign him for 3 years. & I'd trade for Withey -- assuming we don't have to give any future assets, not even R2 picks.

[80sballboy]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2016/6/28/12052030/al-horford-washington-wizards-nba-free-agency-2016-target

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I mean Al is solid but I'd pass on him for sure. If we're going to dish out a ton of money then I want rim protection and rebounding.

[tkunit]

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I would like to see the wiz sign him. If he can improve his shooting he would be a good 4, and cheaper than anderson.

But why excpet the team to make a forward thinking move. I am so scared of the first 48 hours of FA.

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Try to think of it as comedy, tkunit. It's hard I know, but it's the only way.

[80sballboy]

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I would like to see the wiz sign him. If he can improve his shooting he would be a good 4, and cheaper than anderson.

But why excpet the team to make a forward thinking move. I am so scared of the first 48 hours of FA.

Look, you need players to fill a roster. He's not even a target as far as we know. Seems like a younger Darrell Arthur. This is what he is. I'm not suggesting to take him over Anderson and just go with cheap guys to fill the rest. We would suck if we didn't at least add a few quality backups at 8M+.

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Who among the Wizards from last season, not currently under contract, would folks consider possibilities to return? Or who would you ideally like to have return?

Ramon Sessions if he doesn't get the deal he wants from someone else?
Nene on a much, much cheaper contract?
J.J. Hickson for 12th-man forward depth with a nasty streak?

Dudley might be a possibility. I think he may go for more minutes/years elsewhere. Agree on Hickson in the role you stated.

I don't see the Wizards and Nene being a good match. I see him being a depth big on a good team.

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I'd probably welcome Lance Stephenson on the team.... every team needs a lil crazy here and there. Him and Kieff off the bench would be hysterical.

Lance Stephenson - he is like JR Smith with a shirt. Get JR Smith also.

Why stop there? Trade for Cousins and a head-case PG and you can play a "crazy" ball line-up.

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Haha the crazy ball line up

Well strike fear into the hearts of our opponents

Nobody want to drive to the hole against the head case lineup, we about to snap

[Rafael122]

Question, would it be possible to sign Pau to a 2 year/$30 million contract, Bazemore around the $12 mil per year range, and Sato for the MLE?

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It stinks to be (all but) out of the running for KD, and to have our status as a second tier franchise confirmed. But at least we're not publicly liked to Dion Waiters, like the Sixers and the Kings are. Oof. That's definitely third tier.

[LyricalRico]

Question, would it be possible to sign Pau to a 2 year/$30 million contract, Bazemore around the $12 mil per year range, and Sato for the MLE?

Count me in fpr Sato. I think the type of deal you're suggesting for Gasol is in line with his value, I just expect him to go elsewhere. But $12M per for Bazemore? Yikes! I'd rather keep just Temple on the cheap and give Oubre minutes.

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Who among the Wizards from last season, not currently under contract, would folks consider possibilities to return? Or who would you ideally like to have return?

Ramon Sessions if he doesn't get the deal he wants from someone else?
Nene on a much, much cheaper contract?
J.J. Hickson for 12th-man forward depth with a nasty streak?

This is an interesting question -- should have its own thread. Dorian, you could start it. I hope you do.

[Wizman84]

I have a positive outlook on this team. Our starting 5 is good enough to make it to the Eastern Conference finals with the continued development of our young players. Our bench is beyond terrible though. Our 2nd unit could not generate any offense last year. I'd be satisfied with Evan Turner and Ryan Anderson in free agency.

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I have a positive outlook on this team. Our starting 5 is good enough to make it to the Eastern Conference finals with the continued development of our young players. Our bench is beyond terrible though. Our 2nd unit could not generate any offense last year. I'd be satisfied with Evan Turner and Ryan Anderson in free agency.

Since 4 of our 6 players under contract are "our young players," and 3 of them are starters, and "continued development" just means they keep getting better, what you are saying amounts to this: if our young players get better our starting 5 is good enough to get to the ECF.

Now, how much better do they have to get, I wonder? Hmmm, let me think.... Ah, I've got it: our young players have to get enough better that they're good enough to take us the ECF (along w/ Gortat and Morris). Hard to disagree with that.

Then again... what happens if other teams' young players also get better? And if they have young players out of the draft who are good and then better? And they sign good FAs? Whoa! I guess our young players will have to accelerate that "continue to develop" thing, huh?

On a more useful front, I agree with you that Evan Turner would be a good FA signing -- depending on how much we have to pay him of course. Ryan Anderson not so much IMO (he'll be way expensive, and he's gone down hill).

Welcome to the Board, Wizman -- don't take my mockery seriously, ok? I do it to everyone, and they do it back to me too, so feel free!

[80sballboy]

Question, would it be possible to sign Pau to a 2 year/$30 million contract, Bazemore around the $12 mil per year range, and Sato for the MLE?

Count me in fpr Sato. I think the type of deal you're suggesting for Gasol is in line with his value, I just expect him to go elsewhere. But $12M per for Bazemore? Yikes! I'd rather keep just Temple on the cheap and give Oubre minutes.

If the plan is getting younger and more athletic up front, Gasol doesn't fit that. Plus he's probably going to sign with the Spurs and play one year with Ginobili, who of course is going to return with Timmay because these guys just can't retire.

Now one guy that intrigues me that is a bit is Dwight Powell from Dallas, although he is restricted.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/poweldw01.html

[Dat2U]

Seeing the free agent landscape and hearing guys like Solomon Hill expecting $9 mil per a year or Ryan Anderson wanting $17 mil per... here's my ideal situation for how it plays out for the Wizards.

1. Backup C - Cole Aldrich - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary at $6.0 mil
2. Backup PF - Amir Johnson (if Boston waives him) or Loul Deng - 3 years - $36 mil with a starting salary at $10.0 mil
3. Backup G/F - Tomas Satoransky - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary of $6.0 mil
4. Backup PG - Seth Curry - 4 yrs - $40 mil with a starting salary of $8.0 mil (since he's an RFA I'd offer more to try to scare off the Kings)
5. Backup SG - Garrett Temple - I would not renounce his cap hold. - 3yrs - $15 mil with starting salary of $5.0 mil
6. Backup G/F - Alan Anderson - I would re-sign him using our cap exception - 2 yrs - $7 mil

I would fill out the 3rd string PF & C spots with minimum salaried players and leave the 15th spot open.

CE Marcin Gortat ... Cole Aldrich ... MinimumFA
PF Markieff Morris ... Amir Johnson/Loul Deng ... MinimumFA
SF Otto Porter Jr ... Kelly Oubre Jr ... Alan Anderson
SG Bradley Beal ... Tomas Satoransky ... Garrett Temple
PG John Wall ... Seth Curry

Outside of Gortat & our backup PF spot, our rotation guys are all 27 and younger. Anderson & Temple are insurance depth on the perimeter (In case of Beal injury or Oubre not being ready). Curry, Sato & Temple are all capable of playing backup point role so no need for a 3rd string PG.

[Wizman84]

Since 4 of our 6 players under contract are "our young players," and 3 of them are starters, and "continued development" just means they keep getting better, what you are saying amounts to this: if our young players get better our starting 5 is good enough to get to the ECF.

Now, how much better do they have to get, I wonder? Hmmm, let me think.... Ah, I've got it: our young players have to get enough better that they're good enough to take us the ECF (along w/ Gortat and Morris). Hard to disagree with that.

Then again... what happens if other teams' young players also get better? And if they have young players out of the draft who are good and then better? And they sign good FAs? Whoa! I guess our young players will have to accelerate that "continue to develop" thing, huh?

On a more useful front, I agree with you that Evan Turner would be a good FA signing -- depending on how much we have to pay him of course. Ryan Anderson not so much IMO (he'll be way expensive, and he's gone down hill).

Welcome to the Board, Wizman -- don't take my mockery seriously, ok? I do it to everyone, and they do it back to me too, so feel free!

True other teams have young talent, but John Wall isn't far off from being a top 3 pg in the game. Brad Beal is still young with a lot of potential, and Otto shows all the signs of becoming a good all around player. Morris is a solid player, and Gortat is underrated. The east is wide open outside of Cleveland. A productive bench will put us right back in the mix for being a top team in the east imo.
Thanks for the welcome, I've been reading this board for over 10 years.

[verbal8]

Seeing the free agent landscape and hearing guys like Solomon Hill expecting $9 mil per a year or Ryan Anderson wanting $17 mil per... here's my ideal situation for how it plays out for the Wizards.

1. Backup C - Cole Aldrich - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary at $6.0 mil
2. Backup PF - Amir Johnson (if Boston waives him) or Loul Deng - 3 years - $36 mil with a starting salary at $10.0 mil
3. Backup G/F - Tomas Satoransky - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary of $6.0 mil
4. Backup PG - Seth Curry - 4 yrs - $40 mil with a starting salary of $8.0 mil (since he's an RFA I'd offer more to try to scare off the Kings)
5. Backup SG - Garrett Temple - I would not renounce his cap hold. - 3yrs - $15 mil with starting salary of $5.0 mil
6. Backup G/F - Alan Anderson - I would re-sign him using our cap exception - 2 yrs - $7 mil

I would fill out the 3rd string PF & C spots with minimum salaried players and leave the 15th spot open.

CE Marcin Gortat ... Cole Aldrich ... MinimumFA
PF Markieff Morris ... Amir Johnson/Loul Deng ... MinimumFA
SF Otto Porter Jr ... Kelly Oubre Jr ... Alan Anderson
SG Bradley Beal ... Tomas Satoransky ... Garrett Temple
PG John Wall ... Seth Curry

Outside of Gortat & our backup PF spot, our rotation guys are all 27 and younger. Anderson & Temple are insurance depth on the perimeter (In case of Beal injury or Oubre not being ready). Curry, Sato & Temple are all capable of playing backup point role so no need for a 3rd string PG.

I think this is a solid plan B to Horford.

One tweak I would make is making them declining deals. I think $40 million might be a bit much for Seth Curry, so I would offer less there to fit the bigger salaries in the first year. Another option would be to let Temple walk.

[truwizfan4evr]

Seeing the free agent landscape and hearing guys like Solomon Hill expecting $9 mil per a year or Ryan Anderson wanting $17 mil per... here's my ideal situation for how it plays out for the Wizards.

1. Backup C - Cole Aldrich - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary at $6.0 mil
2. Backup PF - Amir Johnson (if Boston waives him) or Loul Deng - 3 years - $36 mil with a starting salary at $10.0 mil
3. Backup G/F - Tomas Satoransky - 4 yrs - $30 mil with a starting salary of $6.0 mil
4. Backup PG - Seth Curry - 4 yrs - $40 mil with a starting salary of $8.0 mil (since he's an RFA I'd offer more to try to scare off the Kings)
5. Backup SG - Garrett Temple - I would not renounce his cap hold. - 3yrs - $15 mil with starting salary of $5.0 mil
6. Backup G/F - Alan Anderson - I would re-sign him using our cap exception - 2 yrs - $7 mil

I would fill out the 3rd string PF & C spots with minimum salaried players and leave the 15th spot open.

CE Marcin Gortat ... Cole Aldrich ... MinimumFA
PF Markieff Morris ... Amir Johnson/Loul Deng ... MinimumFA
SF Otto Porter Jr ... Kelly Oubre Jr ... Alan Anderson
SG Bradley Beal ... Tomas Satoransky ... Garrett Temple
PG John Wall ... Seth Curry

Outside of Gortat & our backup PF spot, our rotation guys are all 27 and younger. Anderson & Temple are insurance depth on the perimeter (In case of Beal injury or Oubre not being ready). Curry, Sato & Temple are all capable of playing backup point role so no need for a 3rd string PG.

What about Aaron White?