Bradley Beal - Part III

[CobraCommander]

Oh no!!!!
Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (BOS) 802,834
2. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 259,368
3. Victor Oladipo (IND) 251,886
4. Ben Simmons (PHI) 210,085
5. John Wall (WAS) 175,990
6. Dwyane Wade (CLE) 165,163
7. Isaiah Thomas (CLE) 87,680
8. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 85,070
9. Bradley Beal (WAS) 71,079
10. Jaylen Brown (BOS) 51,562

Its disrespectful enough that Simmons and Vic0 ashead of Wall and Beal....but Wade and IT are ahead of BEAL! YALL NOT VOTING! I’m calling y’all out right here and now that y’all not voting. I am at least 2k of Beals votes! Come on guys this is BS

[nate33]

Does voting really matter? Voting only dictates the starting lineup and neither Beal nor Wall deserve a starting nod.

That said, one can understand why Derozan and Lowry are so high because an entire country votes for them; and one can understand Wade because of the name recognition and the fact he's playing on a team with a ton of bandwagon fans; but I'm shocked that Simmons and Oladipo have 4 times the votes of Beal. Oladipo is probably a little better than Beal, but he plays in a very small market that nobody cares about while Beal plays in the 4th largest metro area. And Beal is a lot better than Simmons

[dangermouse]

Fan voting needs to end.

[dcstanley]

Does voting really matter? Voting only dictates the starting lineup and neither Beal nor Wall deserve a starting nod.

That said, one can understand why Derozan and Lowry are so high because an entire country votes for them; and one can understand Wade because of the name recognition and the fact he's playing on a team with a ton of bandwagon fans; but I'm shocked that Simmons and Oladipo have 4 times the votes of Beal. Oladipo is probably a little better than Beal, but he plays in a very small market that nobody cares about while Beal plays in the 4th largest metro area. And Beal is a lot better than Simmons

Oladipo better than Beal?

[queridiculo]

I wouldn't be terribly upset if the Wizards didn't send an All-Star to Los Angeles this year.

In my mind, outside of DeRozan there isn't a better two guard in the East, but if his snub sends home the message of humbling himself I'm all for it.

Too many embarrassing losses this season given all the talk in the offseason.

[nate33]

Does voting really matter? Voting only dictates the starting lineup and neither Beal nor Wall deserve a starting nod.

That said, one can understand why Derozan and Lowry are so high because an entire country votes for them; and one can understand Wade because of the name recognition and the fact he's playing on a team with a ton of bandwagon fans; but I'm shocked that Simmons and Oladipo have 4 times the votes of Beal. Oladipo is probably a little better than Beal, but he plays in a very small market that nobody cares about while Beal plays in the 4th largest metro area. And Beal is a lot better than Simmons

Oladipo better than Beal?

Go look at the numbers. So far this season, Oladipo is indisputably more productive than Beal. And until he got hurt, Indy was having just as much success with Oladipo as their #1 guy as we were having with Beal as our #2.

[DCZards]

Does voting really matter? Voting only dictates the starting lineup and neither Beal nor Wall deserve a starting nod.

That said, one can understand why Derozan and Lowry are so high because an entire country votes for them; and one can understand Wade because of the name recognition and the fact he's playing on a team with a ton of bandwagon fans; but I'm shocked that Simmons and Oladipo have 4 times the votes of Beal. Oladipo is probably a little better than Beal, but he plays in a very small market that nobody cares about while Beal plays in the 4th largest metro area. And Beal is a lot better than Simmons

Oladipo better than Beal?

Go look at the numbers. So far this season, Oladipo is indisputably more productive than Beal. And until he got hurt, Indy was having just as much success with Oladipo as their #1 guy as we were having with Beal as our #2.

Beal is no longer the Zards #2 guy. It's clear that he's now become our #1 offensive option....and rightfully so.

He's also emerging as the team's vocal leader. Comments made by Chris Miller during the Knicks game seem to confirm that.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Does voting really matter? Voting only dictates the starting lineup and neither Beal nor Wall deserve a starting nod.

That said, one can understand why Derozan and Lowry are so high because an entire country votes for them; and one can understand Wade because of the name recognition and the fact he's playing on a team with a ton of bandwagon fans; but I'm shocked that Simmons and Oladipo have 4 times the votes of Beal. Oladipo is probably a little better than Beal, but he plays in a very small market that nobody cares about while Beal plays in the 4th largest metro area. And Beal is a lot better than Simmons

Oladipo better than Beal?

Go look at the numbers. So far this season, Oladipo is indisputably more productive than Beal. And until he got hurt, Indy was having just as much success with Oladipo as their #1 guy as we were having with Beal as our #2.

20/20 hindsight:

I vividly recall posting ideas about possibly trading Bradley Beal for Victor Oladipo, back when "VO" was struggling in Orlando. He was the superior player even then IMO. I recalled how dominating of a player he was in Indiana University. I knew about his local ties and his character.

That said Bradley Beal is a terrific guy. Great Christian who is thankful for every day he's alive. I believe Bradley Beal is a very hard worker and he is living up to his contract so far in my opinion to the best of his ability. The principal difference between Beal and Oladipo as far as I'm concerned is that one of them makes about 4 million dollars a year more than the other.

I love having Bradley Beal on the Wizards. No offense entertaining Oladipo trade ideas.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Oladipo better than Beal?

Go look at the numbers. So far this season, Oladipo is indisputably more productive than Beal. And until he got hurt, Indy was having just as much success with Oladipo as their #1 guy as we were having with Beal as our #2.

Beal is no longer the Zards #2 guy. It's clear that he's now become our #1 offensive option....and rightfully so.

He's also emerging as the team's vocal leader. Comments made by Chris Miller during the Knicks game seem to confirm that.

Outstanding post, DCZ.

Beal is the alpha male on this team as it should be. For now.

Part of that is I believe John Wall actually saying that he is a facilitator and a playmaker before becoming a scorer. John knows that he attacks the basket and pushes the pace. He enjoys kicking the ball out to Bradley Beal, who is the team's number one option.

(Otto Porter needs to be a guy taking big shots, too. As far as I'm concerned the wizard should have three number one options. )

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Oh no!!!!
Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (BOS) 802,834
2. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 259,368
3. Victor Oladipo (IND) 251,886
4. Ben Simmons (PHI) 210,085
5. John Wall (WAS) 175,990
6. Dwyane Wade (CLE) 165,163
7. Isaiah Thomas (CLE) 87,680
8. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 85,070
9. Bradley Beal (WAS) 71,079
10. Jaylen Brown (BOS) 51,562

Its disrespectful enough that Simmons and Vic0 ashead of Wall and Beal....but Wade and IT are ahead of BEAL! YALL NOT VOTING! I’m calling y’all out right here and now that y’all not voting. I am at least 2k of Beals votes! Come on guys this is BS

Beal is IMO really number 5 (and John Wall number 4).

I think Ben Simmons should be considered a forward, which would make Beal one step higher.

I don't think Simmons has paid his dues to be a starting guard even though he does deserve to be an All-Star. If the Wizards have a better record than the Philadelphia 76ers Bradley Beal should get his props and be an All Star instead of Simmons.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I wouldn't be terribly upset if the Wizards didn't send an All-Star to Los Angeles this year.

In my mind, outside of DeRozan there isn't a better two guard in the East, but if his snub sends home the message of humbling himself I'm all for it.

Too many embarrassing losses this season given all the talk in the offseason.

I agree.

Starting with all the talk before that Lakers game these guys generally have not backed it.

OTOH...There have been a lot of bad losses but right now the Wizards are at 22 and 16 which is good enough for fourth seed in the east. Those losses are forgotten for the most part.

Like you I would not be upset if neither one of them made the All-Star game but I think they both deserve to be there.

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[J-Ves]

Beal will get in. He was snubbed last year, so he probably gets the coin flip decisions in his favor this time. It also doesn’t hurt that he has a 50 point game under his belt.


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[DCZards]

Beal will get in. He was snubbed last year, so he probably gets the coin flip decisions in his favor this time. It also doesn’t hurt that he has a 50 point game under his belt.

Both Oladipo and Beal probably deserve to make the all-star team this year. However, if it comes down to one or the other, I'm hoping they give the nod to Beal because this is the second year in a row that he's played like an all-star. Whereas, VO has only played like an all-star for 3 months.

[dcstanley]

I'm really surprised you guys think Oladipo is better than Beal. He may be having a better season (though that is debatable) but Beal is still the superior player. If you listen to Dunc'd on podcast you'll listen to their argument on why Oladipo's success isn't sustainable and why Beal is squarely behind Harden and Klay in terms of shooting guard rankings.

[nate33]

Oladipo better than Beal?

Go look at the numbers. So far this season, Oladipo is indisputably more productive than Beal. And until he got hurt, Indy was having just as much success with Oladipo as their #1 guy as we were having with Beal as our #2.

Beal is no longer the Zards #2 guy. It's clear that he's now become our #1 offensive option....and rightfully so.

He's also emerging as the team's vocal leader. Comments made by Chris Miller during the Knicks game seem to confirm that.

You are missing the point. Oladipo is the undisputed best player on Indiana and the focus of the opposition's defense. Beal is not the undisputed best player on this team and defenses have to worry as much about Wall as they do Beal. Yet, despite that, Oladipo is scoring more points at a higher efficiency.

[nate33]

I'm really surprised you guys think Oladipo is better than Beal. He may be having a better season (though that is debatable) but Beal is still the superior player. If you listen to Dunc'd on podcast you'll listen to their argument on why Oladipo's success isn't sustainable and why Beal is squarely behind Harden and Klay in terms of shooting guard rankings.

Typically, All-Star voting is based on who is having the better season. Oladipo is having the better season so far, which is why he has more All Star votes. There is nothing controversial about it.

[dcstanley]

I'm really surprised you guys think Oladipo is better than Beal. He may be having a better season (though that is debatable) but Beal is still the superior player. If you listen to Dunc'd on podcast you'll listen to their argument on why Oladipo's success isn't sustainable and why Beal is squarely behind Harden and Klay in terms of shooting guard rankings.

Typically, All-Star voting is based on who is having the better season. Oladipo is having the better season so far, which is why he has more All Star votes. There is nothing controversial about it.

Are you arguing that Oladipo is the better player or having the better season? Because it seems like you're arguing the former which is certainly open for conversation.

[nate33]

I'm really surprised you guys think Oladipo is better than Beal. He may be having a better season (though that is debatable) but Beal is still the superior player. If you listen to Dunc'd on podcast you'll listen to their argument on why Oladipo's success isn't sustainable and why Beal is squarely behind Harden and Klay in terms of shooting guard rankings.

Typically, All-Star voting is based on who is having the better season. Oladipo is having the better season so far, which is why he has more All Star votes. There is nothing controversial about it.

Are you arguing that Oladipo is the better player or having the better season? Because it seems like you're arguing the former which is certainly open for conversation.

The latter. It came up when somebody posted that Beal was trailing Oladipo in All Star votes.

[dcstanley]

Typically, All-Star voting is based on who is having the better season. Oladipo is having the better season so far, which is why he has more All Star votes. There is nothing controversial about it.

Are you arguing that Oladipo is the better player or having the better season? Because it seems like you're arguing the former which is certainly open for conversation.

The latter. It came up when somebody posted that Beal was trailing Oladipo in All Star votes.

Oh, my mistake. Sorry about that.