Tracking Former Wizards 3.0

[hands11]

anyone see Gil last night? Best Ive seen him look since he was healthy. He is so good. He's turned into such a great pure PG. He can get any guy an easy shot in the lane all day and his vision is top notch. To me Gil may have been the most talented player in the NBA, atleast Offensivley but he had a low IQ at times and never put it all together at the same time.

He was a great post player but never took advantage of it enough. Even before the injury he had started settling big time for long J's when he was so great at attacking and getting teams in foul trouble. Most of all he would always say that he's not Nash and stuff like that. Meaning he was just a scoring type. Then he got hurt that one time, we won alot of games without him, and he learned the game more.

When he came back his passing & PG skills went up times 10 but by then his athletic ability had left him. I believe he can still be a dominant PG and when I say dominant, I mean the best Offensivley. I think Hollins wont start him because he doesnt want to throw a wrench into things but by time the playoffs get here, he will be playing alot and no one wishes an injury but if Conley went down then no one would be upset.

They got him because there 2 young backup PG's suck and even Mayo has struggled but after last night all the Grizz fans said that Gil found Gasol more times in the paint in 5min than Conley has in 5 years. He was making it look so easy. You cant tell by the stats but he had like 5 other passes that led to guys shooting FT's and Gasol or others missed a couple of easy ones because you could tell they werent use to them. He's going to be good.

Alot of Grizz fans were against the move and even they were shocked by how good he looked and now want him to take all of OJ's minutes and are saying that Conley better step up or else

MEM vs LA tonight.

I haven't seen him play yet but from what you wrote, I would have thought his line would have looked better then it was. I guess I will see tonight.

[montestewart]

MEM vs LA tonight.

I haven't seen him play yet but from what you wrote, I would have thought his line would have looked better then it did. I guess I will see tonight.

Memphis holding double digit lead in 3rd without any Arenas. Maybe they're scared he'll jinx it. I'm watching for him, but the Grizzlies look pretty good, and the Lakers not so much.

[hands11]

MEM vs LA tonight.

I haven't seen him play yet but from what you wrote, I would have thought his line would have looked better then it did. I guess I will see tonight.

Memphis holding double digit lead in 3rd without any Arenas. Maybe they're scared he'll jinx it. I'm watching for him, but the Grizzlies look pretty good, and the Lakers not so much.

They mentioned something about easing him back. He is not in game shape.
Looks like Gil is going to learn to play some defense if he is going to find floor time with this team.

[tugs]

Arenas looked slimmer than his previous stint. damn, that Gil-OJ backcourt reminds me of Arenas-Hughes. think things could've worked out with both if Arenas wasn't amnestied and he and Larry led Orlando's 2nd unit?

[hands11]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320326012

Now you would look at Nicks line and think, Nick had a nice game. But I watched the game. Nick was really not a factor until the game was out of hand.

He had 3 fouls early and sat a good while. I did see him trying to pass more though. But for the most part, empty stat line.

[miller31time]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320326012

Now you would look at Nicks line and thing, Nick had a nice game. But I watched the game. Nick was really not a factor until the game was out of hand.

He had 3 fouls early and sat a good while. I did see him trying to pass more though. But for the most part, empty stat line.

0 rebounds and 0 assists in 24 minutes. That's the Nick we know and love!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nick had 17 last night on 5-11 FG with 4-8 3PT shots. Caron only had 6 and Foye had 5 in about the same minutes. Nick did have 0 assists with 4 turnovers. Still, going to LAC was a dream trade for him.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Forget about Gil's comeback. Earl Boykins had 10 points and 5 assists for the Rockets.

[hands11]

Nick had 17 last night on 5-11 FG with 4-8 3PT shots. Caron only had 6 and Foye had 5 in about the same minutes. Nick did have 0 assists with 4 turnovers. Still, going to LAC was a dream trade for him.

Yeah it was. West coast CA team that is more established. That is exactly what he needed and where I speculated he should go. That said, what is his value ? Its not 9M. Not sure they even resign him though they clearly they would for the right price. Nick at 5M would be worth having. Maybe a little more. Should be interesting to see what happens this offseason. Will he stay or take the experience and move on for a starting opportunity and more money. Though there is a starting opportunity for him with the LAC. He only has to bet out Foye. Lots to learn about Nick before the season ends and into the playoffs.

To start the game they had him running with the second unit as the lead scorer. A role I wanted to see him play with the wizards after they gave him every opportunity to grow as a starter but he couldnt add a drive to his game. His handles were to weak.

This is a good opportunity for Nick to grow up.

[Zonkerbl]

Javale started for Denver's win over Derrick Rose-less Chicago last night and played 24 minutes. 5-11 fgs, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks.

[sashae]

He looked a lot less like a chicken with his head cut off, too. Nice to see.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Lester Hudson got called up from the D-League (only played 5 games there after coming back from playing in China) on a 10-day to play with the Cavs.

Hope he sticks this time. I don't think Jordan Crawford is much better than Hudson if at all.

[hands11]

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320401019

I didnt see the game but in the chat someone said Big Baby was schooling McGee.

No Howard and he only played 11 minutes ? Had 7 rebounds and 5 turnovers. What the hell happened ?
Minus -19 ? Great rebounding but the rest sounds terrible.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

In other former Wizards news, James Singleton just completed his season in China. His team finished as runner up to Stephon Marbury's team.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/201 ... 956240.htm

Marbury, who had never played in NBA or CBA finals before the year 2012, vowed to win a league title when he came to China three years ago. His dream also came true tonight.

Marbury was again the man of the match, chipping in 41 points, three rebounds and seven assists while teenager Zhai Xiaochuan added 22 points. Beijing's another foreign player Randolph Morris was not on fire from the field but his consistent free throw gifted him 14 points.

The main threat to Beijing tonight came from Aaron Brooks, also a former NBA star, who collected 33 points, four rebounds and five assists for the visitors while James Singleton added 29 points and nine rebounds.

[sashae]

I have to believe Lester Hudson is going to stick after this crazy run he's having with the Cavs. Just tied the game on a sick teardrop on a drive to the hoop against the Pacers.

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

What will be the atmosphere in the "phone booth" when they make their first return? Will the fans be as harsh on them as they've been known to be on returning former players who they felt underachieved (ex., Juwan Howard and Kwame Brown)? Gave it to Blatche pretty good all season and though both Young and McGee managed to escape the same jeers that Blatche couldn't, I thought they were just as deserving. McGee's head wasn't always in the right place but at least he tried to assert himself the best way he knew how, Young on the other hand seemed only concerned with the limelight and shooting (easily my least favorite Wizard of all-time).

Whenever I've read an article where the two are responding to questions concening their time in Washington versus their new playing spots it always reads like they're subtly tying to throw dirt on the Wizards organization like they didn't have ample opportunity to help in reversing its fortunes; as if they played no part in the position it was left in as they headed for greener pastures. It really gets to me when I read or hear it.

For any sports team I root for, whenever a longtime player leaves for another team, I still cheer them on because that connection to the player remains, I swore this would be the case for both McGee and Young. Nope. Don't get me wrong, I feel a sense happy pride when I see McGee making a difference in Denver, it's like 'wow, he's finally putting it together', but it's not comparable to the way I root for Gilbert Arenas in Memphis or Caron Butler. With Nick Young, oh boy. Wrong, but I sit back wishing for all his shots to clang off the rim.

Whoever the guard, whether Jordan Crawford or Bradley Beal, I hope fifty gets dropped on Nick Young on his return to the Verizon Center; no real animosity towards McGee but I still hope Kevin and Nene back him down relentlessly for twenty apiece.

For the record, I do hope one day my feelings towards Young subsides.

[fishercob]

Can we merge this with the "former wizards" thread pot favor?

[willbcocks]

My guess is the reaction will be pretty "meh." They did not leave on bad terms, they were never bad guys, and they gave decent effort on the court, so I doubt there will be animosity. I don't think they were fan favorites either. I'll mainly curious to see how they're performing now and what they're paid.

[hands11]

My guess is the reaction will be pretty "meh." They did not leave on bad terms, they were never bad guys, and they gave decent effort on the court, so I doubt there will be animosity. I don't think they were fan favorites either. I'll mainly curious to see how they're performing now and what they're paid.

Yeah, considering they were on their rookie contracts, there just isn't that much pain there. We got good value for them. They could have done more to help the team grow. They could have listened more. They could have been a part of the future, but at the end of the day, no big deal. They were part of a transition. Neither had the right smarts or personality to be a part of a culture change. Best thing is they the Wizards didnt get stuck paying them more then their value to the team at this stage of the rebuild.

[Higga]

My guess is the reaction will be pretty "meh." They did not leave on bad terms, they were never bad guys, and they gave decent effort on the court, so I doubt there will be animosity. I don't think they were fan favorites either. I'll mainly curious to see how they're performing now and what they're paid.

Yeah I don't think either of them are relevant enough for us to really care one way or another.

Nobody will ever match the boo birds that Kwame would always get.