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Re: Official NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#761 » by DCZards » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:56 am

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The good news is if I'm living and still a fan of the Wizards this time next season, things won't be THIS bad. You see, I'm looking at becoming a Hornets fan if the Wizards suck. I also like Denver.


Really, CCJ? Please tell me you're joking.
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Post#762 » by Jay81 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:19 am

Lebron is a mike jordan like talent. He deserves the title as much as he is disliked. You guys should appreciate every moment you watch him play because he is truly a once in a generation talent. Any guy that scores 25-12-13 with regularity is not normal
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Post#763 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:27 am

closg00 wrote:The Spurs would'nt have gone-out like this, what a huge disappointment.


Spurs would have had a legit shot since they have Duncan who can score on MIA's bigs... OKC has no low post threat.
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Post#764 » by W. Unseld » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:35 am

Lebron is still the guy who walked into the gym & only wanted to play with the best players--you all know who that guy is & no one respects him as much as the guy who finds a way to win with lesser talents.
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Re: Official NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#765 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:59 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
The good news is if I'm living and still a fan of the Wizards this time next season, things won't be THIS bad. You see, I'm looking at becoming a Hornets fan if the Wizards suck. I also like Denver.


Really, CCJ? Please tell me you're joking.

No, I'm not.

I have no death wish at all but I have some concerns/fears.

I am tired of this franchise's ups and downs, DCZ. They lose and then don't make things better with draft picks, deals they make, and the GM/coaches they choose to roll with. This is my last season of being a fan of this team if the Wizards dont a't least put out an entertaining, competitive team, with a chance to win their share of games. (40 would keep me watching. 35 or less would be a fail after this deal).

If this is another 20-something win team to heck with Ted Leonsis, Ernie Grunfeld, and the Wizards. Enough is enough.
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Re: Official NBA Playoffs Thread 

Post#766 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:28 am

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closg00 wrote:The Spurs would'nt have gone-out like this, what a huge disappointment.


Spurs would have had a legit shot since they have Duncan who can score on MIA's bigs... OKC has no low post threat.

This was my same thought. The only real regret about the Finals is the way OKC went out with a whimper. SA players are probably besides themselves now. They would have given a better show and I know their coach would have made better adjustments than Brooks.

It's as if Scott Brooks forgot how to coach the last three games. He was fine leading the Thunder past the Spurs. He was doing great. But the last three games he must not have seen how badly Perkins was getting beat by Bosh. He had no plan to stop the three point shooting. He acted like Reggie Jackson and Daquan Cook weren't activated. Most of all, he didn't play Nick Collison near enough minutes. I hated the Thunder's game plans the last three games.

Too bad we didn't see SA in the Finals.
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Post#767 » by Knighthonor » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:48 am

grats to the heat, cause its already hot enough in DC
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Post#768 » by DCZards » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:02 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I am tired of this franchise's ups and downs, DCZ. They lose and then don't make things better with draft picks, deals they make, and the GM/coaches they choose to roll with. This is my last season of being a fan of this team if the Wizards dont a't least put out an entertaining, competitive team, with a chance to win their share of games. (40 would keep me watching. 35 or less would be a fail after this deal).

If this is another 20-something win team to heck with Ted Leonsis, Ernie Grunfeld, and the Wizards. Enough is enough.


You surprise and disappoint me, ccj. I thought you were a REAL Zards fan rather than one of those "what have you done for me lately" fans. The Zards are my team through the good, the bad and the ugly. I'm just wired that way when it comes to my hometown teams.
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Post#769 » by montestewart » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:04 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I am tired of this franchise's ups and downs, DCZ. They lose and then don't make things better with draft picks, deals they make, and the GM/coaches they choose to roll with. This is my last season of being a fan of this team if the Wizards dont a't least put out an entertaining, competitive team, with a chance to win their share of games. (40 would keep me watching. 35 or less would be a fail after this deal).

If this is another 20-something win team to heck with Ted Leonsis, Ernie Grunfeld, and the Wizards. Enough is enough.


You surprise and disappoint me, ccj. I thought you were a REAL Zards fan rather than one of those "what have done for me lately" fans. The Zards are my team through the good, the bad and the ugly. I'm just wired that way when it comes to my hometown teams.

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Post#770 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:21 pm

DCZards wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I am tired of this franchise's ups and downs, DCZ. They lose and then don't make things better with draft picks, deals they make, and the GM/coaches they choose to roll with. This is my last season of being a fan of this team if the Wizards dont a't least put out an entertaining, competitive team, with a chance to win their share of games. (40 would keep me watching. 35 or less would be a fail after this deal).

If this is another 20-something win team to heck with Ted Leonsis, Ernie Grunfeld, and the Wizards. Enough is enough.


You surprise and disappoint me, ccj. I thought you were a REAL Zards fan rather than one of those "what have done for me lately" fans. The Zards are my team through the good, the bad and the ugly. I'm just wired that way when it comes to my hometown teams.


I shared my true feelings and I respect yours. If it isn't fun what is the point. Maybe they'll be fun and much better than I anticipate. We will see. i am always going to pull for the team to succeed and there are many players I like on the team--heck, I like all the players on the team now. Blatche has worn out his welcome but I don't dislike him. Crawford has a lot of swagger, but I can't stand his inefficient shooting. Wall just needs a jumper and a little more strength to finish, but I love his effort level.

My problem is. I don't know the new guys and I can't see how they fit or help, especially at their salaries. Unless another deal is in the works I really don't understand ruining cap flexibility for the latest two acquisitions, just based on the premise of no free agents wanting to come to DC. Most of all, I was looking forward to some other guys getting a chance besides the two veterans they added. It is disheartening to consistently see a GM go for the worst contracts and least production, consistently. I don't think Nene has proven himself yet, but EG has gone all in with Okafor.

Like I said, I don't want to see another 20-something win team.

We will see.
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Post#771 » by DCZards » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:34 pm

Ironically, ccj, the trade is more likely to help the Zards move from 25 wins to closer to 35-40 wins than doing nothing and just letting youngins' like Serpahin and Ves learn on the job. So, in some respects, you should like the trade.
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Post#772 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:12 pm

DCZards wrote:Ironically, ccj, the trade is more likely to help the Zards move from 25 wins to closer to 35-40 wins than doing nothing and just letting youngins' like Serpahin and Ves learn on the job. So, in some respects, you should like the trade.


It depends on how well Wittman coaches, DCZ.

The Wizards had a 35-win roster without this trade IMO. If it turns out that Okafor and Nene play very well together, and Ariza plays more effectively than he has the last three years; this will really turn out well. Seraphin and Vesely can accept playing less minutes. Same with Booker, if he plays at all. The success of this deal will only come with the veterans playing and those same young guys playing lesser roles than they would have if the deal hadn't been made …. OR, Randy Wittman establishes play based on merit. If it turns out Seraphin is more of a beast than Okafor and Kevin gets the most minutes, and they win, then all is well. If Chris Singleton proves to be a better 3 and D player than Ariza and he gets minutes, and they win, all is well.

I think this was a panic trade and the Wizards should have improved their backcourt if anything. I don't think they needed to make a win-now move, and I can think of many better moves the Wizards could have made. No move would have been best IMO.

Now, it is up to Wittman to coach them up. Of course, more deals could be on the way. I think Booker could be on the trade block.
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Post#773 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:29 pm

Playoffs thread. Back on topic.

This was the worst officiating all playoffs long I have ever seen. This is the first I have seen officiating scrutinized so much. Most of all, i have never seen so many series affected by officiating.

I found myself feeling bad for San Antonio. They lost four straight to OKC but OKC got star calls against the Spurs that they didn't get agains the Heat. When the calls went against OKC the Thunder fell apart.

In the end, Miami was the tougher, better team. Their perimeter shooters killed it.
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Post#774 » by closg00 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:56 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
closg00 wrote:The Spurs would'nt have gone-out like this, what a huge disappointment.


Spurs would have had a legit shot since they have Duncan who can score on MIA's bigs... OKC has no low post threat.

This was my same thought. The only real regret about the Finals is the way OKC went out with a whimper. SA players are probably besides themselves now. They would have given a better show and I know their coach would have made better adjustments than Brooks.

It's as if Scott Brooks forgot how to coach the last three games. He was fine leading the Thunder past the Spurs. He was doing great. But the last three games he must not have seen how badly Perkins was getting beat by Bosh. He had no plan to stop the three point shooting. He acted like Reggie Jackson and Daquan Cook weren't activated. Most of all, he didn't play Nick Collison near enough minutes. I hated the Thunder's game plans the last three games.

Too bad we didn't see SA in the Finals.


+1 on both posts. Also, Harden just lost a lot of money. If I am the OKC GM I am sacrificing Harden and going after Hibbert in FA, with post-threat and better coaching, this would have been a mucvh closer series.
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Post#775 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:54 pm

Looks like Perkins was playing with a partiall torn groin. No wonder he couldn't stay with Bosh. And yet Brooks still refused to go to Collison more.

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Post#776 » by BigA » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:18 pm

I'm gnashing my teeth.
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Post#777 » by Ruzious » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:27 pm

closg00 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Spurs would have had a legit shot since they have Duncan who can score on MIA's bigs... OKC has no low post threat.

This was my same thought. The only real regret about the Finals is the way OKC went out with a whimper. SA players are probably besides themselves now. They would have given a better show and I know their coach would have made better adjustments than Brooks.

It's as if Scott Brooks forgot how to coach the last three games. He was fine leading the Thunder past the Spurs. He was doing great. But the last three games he must not have seen how badly Perkins was getting beat by Bosh. He had no plan to stop the three point shooting. He acted like Reggie Jackson and Daquan Cook weren't activated. Most of all, he didn't play Nick Collison near enough minutes. I hated the Thunder's game plans the last three games.

Too bad we didn't see SA in the Finals.


+1 on both posts. Also, Harden just lost a lot of money. If I am the OKC GM I am sacrificing Harden and going after Hibbert in FA, with post-threat and better coaching, this would have been a mucvh closer series.

For whatever reason, Harden could not hit shots that he normally makes - to save his life - throughout the series. Plus, he wasn't getting foul calls that he'd normally get. His problems snowballed, and I think he got frustrated/choked under the presure. Ibaka also lost millions. He was completely out-classed by Bosh.

Still, OKC was in every game except game 5. With all their perceived problems, they could have won the NBA Championship.
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Post#778 » by DCZards » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:29 pm

S.A.'s problems had nothing to do with "star" calls. It's because S.A.'s star players are old and started to look old in the second half of games against the much younger OKC. Miami would have beat S.A. like a drum just like they beat OKC. No team was overcoming Miami's combination of talent and will to win...at least not this year.
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Post#779 » by mohammed10 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:51 pm

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Post#780 » by dobrojim » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:55 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Playoffs thread. Back on topic.

This was the worst officiating all playoffs long I have ever seen. This is the first I have seen officiating scrutinized so much. Most of all, i have never seen so many series affected by officiating.

I found myself feeling bad for San Antonio. They lost four straight to OKC but OKC got star calls against the Spurs that they didn't get agains the Heat. When the calls went against OKC the Thunder fell apart.

In the end, Miami was the tougher, better team. Their perimeter shooters killed it.


I had to turn the TV off when they called the flagrant on Fisher. How a borderline
charge becomes a flagrant block, I'll never know. Bron lowered his shoulder and ran
straight into FIsher. That's not a flagrant on fisher.
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