Bradley Beal

[hands11]

when your 2-39 or whatever we are....you dont sit a rookie

I agree, it was just Whitman trying to save his job. The whole point of our season is to develop the young players.

You don't develop young players by allowing them to get useless minutes were they are not contributing except for helping the team to suck with their performance.

Sometimes sitting them is a great teaching moment. If you just want them to get some burn and let time pass until they grow up some, you send them to the DL.

I don't believe in this multi year tank crap. You can tank for a draft. Maybe play young players and by default tank for two. But when you have players like Nene and Wall in year 3 with filler like Trevor A and Okafor, you go out to win games. Getting minutes on a losing team that has the worst record in the league is not teaching Beal anything good. Playing on a winning team is less minutes would teach him more. Even if he is just watching.

I still say the best thing for Beal would be if he wasn't starting. Maybe next year he would be ready if he earns it. Plugging in a 19 year old rookie into a starting line up is a failing formula 99% of the time. Specially if they aren't out there with other A level talent. Beal starting is not like starting Duncan on that old SA team. Nor is it starting Magic Johnson on that old LA team.

This team needs to win now, not tank. Beal should not be starting unless he is more productive then his back up.

[nate33]

I agree with hands11 here. People always overstate the impact of playing time when it comes to developing players. Beal will develop just as fast getting 20 minutes a game as he would getting 35 minutes a game. He may even develop faster because Wittman will be able to pick and choose the matchups that help Beal to succeed and build confidence.

Certainly, the current strategy of throwing him to the wolves hasn't helped his confidence. The guy can't make a shot unless it's from the free throw line.

[tontoz]

What is going on now just underscores the fact that he shouldn't have been starting in the first place. if you put him in as a starter and he struggles what then? Do you bench him and risk a major blow to his confidence? Leave him out there and hope he snaps out of it?

The logical thing to do was bring him off the bench from the beginning. When he becomes consistently productive THEN you move him into the starting lineup.

Dumb decisions like this are why bad teams stay bad.

[TheKingOfVa360]

You don't develop young players by allowing them to get useless minutes were they are not contributing except for helping the team to suck with their performance.

Sometimes sitting them is a great teaching moment. If you just want them to get some burn and let time pass until they grow up some, you send them to the DL.

I don't believe in this multi year tank crap. You can tank for a draft. Maybe play young players and by default tank for two. But when you have players like Nene and Wall in year 3 with filler like Trevor A and Okafor, you go out to win games. Getting minutes on a losing team that has the worst record in the league is not teaching Beal anything good. Playing on a winning team is less minutes would teach him more. Even if he is just watching.

I still say the best thing for Beal would be if he wasn't starting. Maybe next year he would be ready if he earns it. Plugging in a 19 year old rookie into a starting line up is a failing formula 99% of the time. Specially if they aren't out there with other A level talent. Beal starting is not like starting Duncan on that old SA team. Nor is it starting Magic Johnson on that old LA team.

This team needs to win now, not tank. Beal should not be starting unless he is more productive then his back up.

I see your point, the team does need to win now. I wish they would bring in a guy like Reggie Miller or Mitch Richmond to work with Beal on his game. You're right Crawford or Webster should be starting over Beal. We are going to shatter the kids confidence playing for this crappy team.

[Dat2U]

when your 2-39 or whatever we are....you dont sit a rookie

I agree, it was just Whitman trying to save his job. The whole point of our season is to develop the young players.

You don't develop young players by allowing them to get useless minutes were they are not contributing except for helping the team to suck with their performance.

Sometimes sitting them is a great teaching moment. If you just want them to get some burn and let time pass until they grow up some, you send them to the DL.

I don't believe in this multi year tank crap. You can tank for a draft. Maybe play young players and by default tank for two. But when you have players like Nene and Wall in year 3 with filler like Trevor A and Okafor, you go out to win games. Getting minutes on a losing team that has the worst record in the league is not teaching Beal anything good. Playing on a winning team is less minutes would teach him more. Even if he is just watching.

I still say the best thing for Beal would be if he wasn't starting. Maybe next year he would be ready if he earns it. Plugging in a 19 year old rookie into a starting line up is a failing formula 99% of the time. Specially if they aren't out there with other A level talent. Beal starting is not like starting Duncan on that old SA team. Nor is it starting Magic Johnson on that old LA team.

This team needs to win now, not tank. Beal should not be starting unless he is more productive then his back up.

The funniest part of all is this isn't a tank job, they're really trying to win games. Teddy, Ernie & Randy want to win desperately They're 3-23. Just let that soak in for a second.

If they intentionally tried to tank they'd probably end up winning a bunch of games.

[hands11]

Well, if they were not trying to tank to start the year, then Randy has been an idiot.

He started

Price - Never a starter. Crawford has been
Beal - 19 year old rookie
Trevor A - fine with that
Booker - he was injured. Not totally bad but not with the above line up and Okafor next to him.
Okafor - again. Fine with it but not with Booker at PF and the above.

He coached a team that was in most games and always started off down 10 or more in the first.
That same team lead the league in bench scoring.

Come on. If that wasn't tanking I don't know what is. Your bench outscored your starters the entire year. You started a 19 year old who was struggling. You didn't have a starter at PG. That is tanking or it just down right incompetent.

They had to be planning an early tank so they could pile up the loses so they could win down the stretch when they got Wall and Nene back. Momentum going into the next year only this time with Trevor A and Okafor who are two more vets.. And they get another free asset. Ted likes the free stuff. He needs to get over that group-on attitude.

Hopefully he realizes the time to win is now. You have Nene and Wall. You have two solid 2nd tier vets in Trevor A and Okafor. Add another stud or at least solid vet at SG or SF and go for it. Really, mostly they need a solid 3 ball shooter. Something more then part time Martin. Something at least at the DSleez level. Or a legit stud at SF.

Josh Smith would be awesome to land.

[nate33]

Only 4 players in NBA history have shot worse than Bradley Beal while averaging at least 5 3PA's per 36 minutes.

What's hysterical is that three of the four guys ahead of him are former Wizards.

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Player            - Year -  3P% - 3PA
Deshawn Stevenson - 2008 - .271 - 5.2
Jannero Pargo     - 2009 - .275 - 6.0
AJ Price          - 2010 - .275 - 6.7
Antoine Walker    - 2006 - .275 - 6.0
Bradley Beal      - 2012 - .276 - 5.1

If Beal misses his next 3-pointer, he will move up to 2nd on the list of all-time worst 3-point shooters.

[hands11]

Only 4 players in NBA history have shot worse than Bradley Beal while averaging at least 5 3PA's per 36 minutes.

What's hysterical is that three of the four guys ahead of him are former Wizards.

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Player            - Year -  3P% - 3PA
Deshawn Stevenson - 2008 - .271 - 5.2
Jannero Pargo     - 2009 - .275 - 6.0
AJ Price          - 2010 - .275 - 6.7
Antoine Walker    - 2006 - .275 - 6.0
Bradley Beal      - 2012 - .276 - 5.1

If Beal misses his next 3-pointer, he will move up to 2nd on the list of all-time worst 3-point shooters.

Were all those number for those players in their first year ?

[Jay81]

Beal is 19. Not worried

[nate33]

You are missing the point. It's not that Beal won't get better, it's that Beal is really, really bad right now. I'm talking Worst of All Time bad.

[Wizardspride]

Beal is 19. Not worried

Beal was 18 last season at Florida and played the same way he's playing now.

So yeah, I am worried.



On second thought, I'm not really worried about Beal.

He's the player I thought he was....a role player.

[hands11]

You are missing the point. It's not that Beal won't get better, it's that Beal is really, really bad right now. I'm talking Worst of All Time bad.

Well the season isn't over so maybe those stats go up but yeah, he is bad.

For me specifically, I have been calling for him to come off the bench for a long time now. At this point, I'm actually starting to think send him to the DL. But they can't because then all they have is C Martin.

I'm ready for another DL call up. I see some 3 pt shooters on that list I would be willing to give a tryout.

This is why I said they should have kept Mason over Martin.

[Jay81]

well most of the board really wanted beal depsite how "bad' he was in college. He did improve quite a bit in 2nd half of college and had a good summer elague. He is just in a shooting slump. that shot will fall. He does other things pretty well

[hands11]

http://games.espn.go.com/fba/addeddropped

Beal is the 5th most dropped player

3 or the 4 player ahead of him are injured.

[TheBigThree]

Kid needs a shooting stroke, stat. With a few minor tweaks his already good stroke could be great. I really don't feel like it's a confidence thing, because he's getting shots up.

This many .300 shooting games just can't happen.

[FAH1223]

Should we draft Muhammad and trade Beal if we get in position?

[mg]

Should we draft Muhammad and trade Beal if we get in position?

Always take bpa regardless of position especially at top of the draft. If Shabazz is the pick and Beal finally comes around it would be a nice problem to have.

[nate33]

Only 4 players in NBA history have shot worse than Bradley Beal while averaging at least 5 3PA's per 36 minutes.

What's hysterical is that three of the four guys ahead of him are former Wizards.

Code: Select all

Player            - Year -  3P% - 3PA
Deshawn Stevenson - 2008 - .271 - 5.2
Jannero Pargo     - 2009 - .275 - 6.0
AJ Price          - 2010 - .275 - 6.7
Antoine Walker    - 2006 - .275 - 6.0
Bradley Beal      - 2012 - .276 - 5.1

If Beal misses his next 3-pointer, he will move up to 2nd on the list of all-time worst 3-point shooters.

After tonight's 0-3 performance from the 3-point line, Bradley Beal now owns the distinction of being the worst 3-point shooter of all time among anybody in history who has averaged at least 5 attempts per 36 minutes. His percentage is now .269.

He hasn't made a 3-pointer in his last 5 games and has missed 17 in a row.

[hands11]

Only 4 players in NBA history have shot worse than Bradley Beal while averaging at least 5 3PA's per 36 minutes.

What's hysterical is that three of the four guys ahead of him are former Wizards.

Code: Select all

Player            - Year -  3P% - 3PA
Deshawn Stevenson - 2008 - .271 - 5.2
Jannero Pargo     - 2009 - .275 - 6.0
AJ Price          - 2010 - .275 - 6.7
Antoine Walker    - 2006 - .275 - 6.0
Bradley Beal      - 2012 - .276 - 5.1

If Beal misses his next 3-pointer, he will move up to 2nd on the list of all-time worst 3-point shooters.

After tonight's 0-3 performance from the 3-point line, Bradley Beal now owns the distinction of being the worst 3-point shooter of all time among anybody in history who has averaged at least 5 attempts per 36 minutes. His percentage is now .269.

He hasn't made a 3-pointer in his last 5 games and has missed 17 in a row.

I think we should start him over Crawford who for Dec averaged 19ts 5 rebounds and 6 assist. I heard during pre game that only two other players averaged that for Dec. Names. LeBron James and Westbrook.

But hey, he is bust. Trade him for a second round pick and quick.

[Mr. Grundle]

Only 4 players in NBA history have shot worse than Bradley Beal while averaging at least 5 3PA's per 36 minutes.

What's hysterical is that three of the four guys ahead of him are former Wizards.

Code: Select all

Player            - Year -  3P% - 3PA
Deshawn Stevenson - 2008 - .271 - 5.2
Jannero Pargo     - 2009 - .275 - 6.0
AJ Price          - 2010 - .275 - 6.7
Antoine Walker    - 2006 - .275 - 6.0
Bradley Beal      - 2012 - .276 - 5.1

If Beal misses his next 3-pointer, he will move up to 2nd on the list of all-time worst 3-point shooters.

WTF. Ted must have hired dyslexic Jonah Hill to be our moneyball guy.