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Interesting Chris Paul/Melo Trimble comparisons. I just don't see the same explosiveness in Melo that Paul had coming out of Wake Forest. Paul is a shell of himself (pun intended) in terms of athleticism. I do love Melo's IQ and strong upper body but his D is horrific.
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Dang! Terps miss the tying shot at the buzzer and lose.
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I still don't understand Turgeon's offensive plan
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I still don't understand Turgeon's offensive plan
Not sure either, but when Melo has an awful game (1 for 7, 2pts), not much you can do.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I still don't understand Turgeon's offensive plan
It needs to be give the ball to Stone and GTFOOTW.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I still don't understand Turgeon's offensive plan
I don't understand it also, when they had their two bigs in at the same time, they were punishing them inside. Melo totally shrank last and they almost won.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I still don't understand Turgeon's offensive plan
Still, bottom line - we didn't defend against 3's well enough and should have shot better from 3 point range. Grats to CCJ for calling it right against MD.
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Terps win a sloppy game in OT against Northwestern.
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Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
I think anyone who remembers all the way back to last season knows he's a good coach. Let's get it straight: Edsall was a recruiter who couldn't coach a lick. Turgeon's a good highly respected coach who can also recruit. Maryland's as good as any team in the country this season, but they really don't have much depth other than their bigs, and they're really not a particularly talented defensive team. All the top 5 teams have had a couple of bad games this season. I'm amazed that people are seriously bitching and whining about a 16-2 team. Going from scoring 100 points to just 40 points in regulation ain't what you want to do, but It's natural to have a let-down after destroying Ohio State a couple days earlier.
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Ruzious wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
I think anyone who remembers all the way back to last season knows he's a good coach. Let's get it straight: Edsall was a recruiter who couldn't coach a lick. Turgeon's a good highly respected coach who can also recruit. Maryland's as good as any team in the country this season, but they really don't have much depth other than their bigs, and they're really not a particularly talented defensive team. All the top 5 teams have had a couple of bad games this season. I'm amazed that people are seriously bitching and whining about a 16-2 team. Going from scoring 100 points to just 40 points in regulation ain't what you want to do, but It's natural to have a let-down after destroying Ohio State a couple days earlier.
I admit that I don't watch all of the Terps' games and that I turned the OSU game on after they were already up by 40. Sounds like they were really clicking.
Last night there seemed to be a number of questionable coaching moves.
1. Use of Stone. Sure he had a couple of early fouls and was out of synch early, but man, when he was in late, NW had no answer for him. Gotta ride your thoroughbred.
2. Use of Ram. Great kid, great story, high energy guy for certain specific situations. Not rotation worthy. The offense grinds to a halt.
3. Use of Nickens. There were stretches when the team was desperate for shooters. Gotta get the spacing if you want to utilize your bigs.
4. Lack of offensive ball movement. I LOVE Trimble, but he needs to be coached to diversify. There are way too many possessions where he pounds away on the rock while his teammates are futilely run off screens.
5. Calling a timeout on the final possession of regulation. He already had the ball in Melo's hands, shot clock off. Why risk an inbounds pass to set up the same scenario he had in the first place.
Again, I really like the guy. (And couldn't stand Edsall). And I love watching the players he's brought in.
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1. Stone's use and minutes were limited because of foul trouble. He had 4 fouls in 15 minutes. Stone has improved dramatically through this season. That's an indication the coach has done well with him.
2. Ram played a total of 5 minutes... Other than Stone, everyone else who played was in for over 20 minutes.
3. Nickens played 21 minutes and made 1 of 4 3's. He was part of the problem.
4. In Turgeon's radio program, he pointed out the need to get better ball movement. He's on top of this more than fans like you and I are.
5. He called a timeout to set up a play in order to give them a better chance of scoring. Even if Trimble has the ball, the play doesn't just involve Trimble.
2. Ram played a total of 5 minutes... Other than Stone, everyone else who played was in for over 20 minutes.
3. Nickens played 21 minutes and made 1 of 4 3's. He was part of the problem.
4. In Turgeon's radio program, he pointed out the need to get better ball movement. He's on top of this more than fans like you and I are.
5. He called a timeout to set up a play in order to give them a better chance of scoring. Even if Trimble has the ball, the play doesn't just involve Trimble.
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Terps have talent...but its a strange team in that there are a LOT of newcomers that are still learning to play together. It's not like this is a team full of upperclassmen who've played together for the last 1-2 years. Fully expected that they'll be a little up and down offensively. But if they can ever put it all together, they have as good a shot as anyone to win it all. This year more then any other in college hoops is a complete free for all, every other day it seems a top ranked team is losing to some donkey.
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
How did he win so many games at Texas A&M?
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
How did he win so many games at Texas A&M?
Kris Middleton?
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
How did he win so many games at Texas A&M?
Kris Middleton?
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long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Ruzious wrote:long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Turgeon seems like a good guy. And he's a great recruiter. But man, he just can't coach. UMD's got the talent and depth, but I can't see Turg winning it all.
Like Randy with JWall, Coach T's really lucky he has Trimble.
I think anyone who remembers all the way back to last season knows he's a good coach. Let's get it straight: Edsall was a recruiter who couldn't coach a lick. Turgeon's a good highly respected coach who can also recruit. Maryland's as good as any team in the country this season, but they really don't have much depth other than their bigs, and they're really not a particularly talented defensive team. All the top 5 teams have had a couple of bad games this season. I'm amazed that people are seriously bitching and whining about a 16-2 team. Going from scoring 100 points to just 40 points in regulation ain't what you want to do, but It's natural to have a let-down after destroying Ohio State a couple days earlier.
I admit that I don't watch all of the Terps' games and that I turned the OSU game on after they were already up by 40. Sounds like they were really clicking.
Last night there seemed to be a number of questionable coaching moves.
1. Use of Stone. Sure he had a couple of early fouls and was out of synch early, but man, when he was in late, NW had no answer for him. Gotta ride your thoroughbred.
2. Use of Ram. Great kid, great story, high energy guy for certain specific situations. Not rotation worthy. The offense grinds to a halt.
3. Use of Nickens. There were stretches when the team was desperate for shooters. Gotta get the spacing if you want to utilize your bigs.
4. Lack of offensive ball movement. I LOVE Trimble, but he needs to be coached to diversify. There are way too many possessions where he pounds away on the rock while his teammates are futilely run off screens.
5. Calling a timeout on the final possession of regulation. He already had the ball in Melo's hands, shot clock off. Why risk an inbounds pass to set up the same scenario he had in the first place.
Again, I really like the guy. (And couldn't stand Edsall). And I love watching the players he's brought in.
I gotta agree that Maryland is an underachieving team.
Stone should start.
Layman is much worse this season at SF than last at PF.
Ram is a scrub.
Sulaimon is mildly disappointing.
Nickens has regressed more than Layman.
Carter is a low IQ player who takes too many threes.
I don't like this Terps team nearly as much as when this season started and I bought all the hype.
Brantley is a total bust so far.
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This team will go one and out in the NCAAs
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:This team will go one and out in the NCAAs
I'm afraid you could be right, they could easily be a one and done instead of a final 8 team. They do under-achieve and I have scratched my head trying to understand some of coaching/rotation decisions. I understand that they need to get this group to gel together and that Stone is a baby-faced frosh, but they are running out of time. The final product out on the floor looks really shakey.