Bradley Beal - Part III

Illmatic12 · Post #761 » by **Illmatic12** » Fri Jan 5, 2018 11:47 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Oh no!!!!
Guards

1. Kyrie Irving (BOS) 802,834
2. DeMar DeRozan (TOR) 259,368
3. Victor Oladipo (IND) 251,886
4. Ben Simmons (PHI) 210,085
5. John Wall (WAS) 175,990
6. Dwyane Wade (CLE) 165,163
7. Isaiah Thomas (CLE) 87,680
8. Kyle Lowry (TOR) 85,070
9. Bradley Beal (WAS) 71,079
10. Jaylen Brown (BOS) 51,562

Its disrespectful enough that Simmons and Vic0 ashead of Wall and Beal....but Wade and IT are ahead of BEAL! YALL NOT VOTING! I’m calling y’all out right here and now that y’all not voting. I am at least 2k of Beals votes! Come on guys this is BS

Beal is IMO really number 5 (and John Wall number 4).

I think Ben Simmons should be considered a forward, which would make Beal one step higher.

I don't think Simmons has paid his dues to be a starting guard even though he does deserve to be an All-Star. If the Wizards have a better record than the Philadelphia 76ers Bradley Beal should get his props and be an All Star instead of Simmons.

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I don’t see why Simmons should make the All-Star team as a rookie on a sub -.500 team .. he will make many in the future but Philly only deserves one AS selection for now and that’s Embiid.

Lebron didn’t even make the AS as a rookie

tontoz · Post #762 » by **tontoz** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 1:27 pm

Over the last 5 games Beal has made 19 of 39 from 3.

Post #763 » by **nate33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 2:22 pm

tontoz wrote:Over the last 5 games Beal has made 19 of 39 from 3.

That's really good to hear. If Beal gets that 3-ball back on track and manages to combine it with his newfound ability to finish at the rim so efficiently, he's a perennial All Star. I just love how he finishes at the rim now. He never misses those driving, contested layups.

Also, hopefully if he gets that confidence in his 3-ball back, he'll be less inclined to step in for the long 2 and instead get up a few more 3PA's. His 3PA's per 100 possessions are down to 9.1 this year from 10.1 last year.

FWIW, his 3P% has crept up to .373. It was .352 5 games ago. Also his ORtg is back up to a rock-solid 112. It was as low as 106 in early December. Hopefully, he'll finish close to the 117 he posted last year.

DCZards · Post #764 » by **DCZards** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:04 pm

tontoz wrote:Over the last 5 games Beal has made 19 of 39 from 3.

I expected Brad's 3pt % to start creeping back up to the 40% range where it has been in the past. BB is an offensive machine when his 3 ball is falling and you combine it with his sweet midrange game and his ability to get to the basket.

I also think that early on some of us underestimated Beal's athleticism. When he goes up for a dunk off the dribble, the power and force with which he explodes off his feet is impressive.

Dark Faze · Post #765 » by **Dark Faze** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:40 pm

I hope he makes the all-star game. Even if its at the cost of Wall missing.

CobraCommander · Post #766 » by **CobraCommander** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:44 pm

Dark Faze wrote:I hope he makes the all-star game. Even if its at the cost of Wall missing.

I would agree...but I dont think it should come to that. Wall has been hurt and played...IT has been HURT and hasn’t played...I would hope Wall and Beal will make the AS game before any of the marginal players make it.

Let’s hope if Lowery Makes it BEAL makes it.

Shanghai Kid · Post #767 » by **Shanghai Kid** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 6:09 pm

I think Wall will probably still make it based on reputation. I think he's going to have a strong January and basically be back in All-star form.

I think it's much more important for the development of the team for Beal to be seen as a star in the league. As far as getting star calls from the refs, attracting free agents, we need Beal to be a perennial All-Star like Wall.

Then we have to see if there is a way to get Otto to that level.

Triple 7 · Post #768 » by **Triple 7** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:11 pm

I could see both Beal and Wall getting an all-star bid this year. They both deserve it

Dark Faze · Post #769 » by **Dark Faze** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 8:10 pm

As long as the pacers are a playoff team, I think wall will be a causalty unless Oladipo falls off.

Post #770 » by **nate33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 9:21 pm

Dark Faze wrote:As long as the pacers are a playoff team, I think wall will be a causalty unless Oladipo falls off.

Agreed. You gotta put Beal above Wall at this point given his significantly better advanced metrics and minutes played.

So basically, I don't see how Wall can be ranked above Kyrie, Beal, DeRozan and Oladipo (assuming good health and Indy remains a playoff team). There's also Lowry and Kemba in the mix. It's gonna be tough for Wall to get in. He's going to have to go on a great run in January.

Shanghai Kid · Post #771 » by **Shanghai Kid** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 9:48 pm

Dark Faze wrote:As long as the pacers are a playoff team, I think wall will be a causalty unless Oladipo falls off.

Indiana is actually in 9th place right now.

For Wall, he needs the Wizards to continue winning with him putting up good numbers. The Wizards getting on a hot streak will give them the record to justify having two all-stars. It also serves his narrative that they have started a run since he came back from injury.

One thing in his favor is that Wall is sort of seen as a franchise player/perennial All-Star type. Coaches pick the reserves, and I have a feeling that Wall probably is well respected around the league. His reputation may serve him well. I think the team could have as much as 6 guards.

FAH1223 · Post #772 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 9:24 pm

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payitforward · Post #773 » by **payitforward** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:22 pm

Both Wall's remark & Whiteside's are really nice to see.

In every way but shooting %'s, Brad is having a tremendous season -- rebounding up, TO's a little down, blocks a little up, assists slightly up, fouls a little down. Great stuff.

His shooting %s are all down -- 2 pt., 3 pt., & FT %.

There are some SGs having tremendous seasons this year -- & a few of them are huge surprises (Spencer Dinwiddie!). But, scoring is especially important in all star voting, & in the EC only DeRozan & Oladipo are outscoring Brad. Given that Oladipo's name isn't as well established as Beal's maybe Brad will edge him out.

But, really, Oladipo is just absolutely killing it & should be the starting PG on the EC all star team.

The other guy having an amazing season is Tyreke Evans -- what a great FA signing he would have been for us!!

FAH1223 · Post #774 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:47 pm

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Post #775 » by **nate33** » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:35 pm

Beal has quietly put together a very nice run of games.

Over the last 11 games, he is averaging 26.3 points, 4.5 assists and 4.2 boards with a TS% of .639 and an ORtg of 119.

Wizardspride · Post #776 » by **Wizardspride** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:57 pm

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Post #777 » by **nate33** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:55 pm

Odd that Beal made the 3-point contest this year when he's shooting the worst 3-point percentages of his career.

I think he deserved the All-Star game nod though. Kyrie, Derozan and Oladipo are definitely ahead of him, but I don't see how it's possible that at least two among Lowry, Walker and Wall are also ahead of him.

EDIT: I see that Beal was invited to the 3-point contest last year but declined.

DCZards · Post #778 » by **DCZards** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:50 pm

nate33 wrote:Odd that Beal made the 3-point contest this year when he's shooting the worst 3-point percentages of his career.

I think he deserved the All-Star game nod though. Kyrie, Derozan and Oladipo are definitely ahead of him, but I don't see how it's possible that at least two among Lowry, Walker and Wall are also ahead of him.

EDIT: I see that Beal was invited to the 3-point contest last year but declined.

Bradley was in the 3 pt. shooting contest 3 or 4 years ago and came in second. I'm glad to see he's giving it another shot. Even happier that he's going to be an all-star...he deserves it despite the team's struggles.

Post #779 » by **nate33** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:03 pm

DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:Odd that Beal made the 3-point contest this year when he's shooting the worst 3-point percentages of his career.

I think he deserved the All-Star game nod though. Kyrie, Derozan and Oladipo are definitely ahead of him, but I don't see how it's possible that at least two among Lowry, Walker and Wall are also ahead of him.

EDIT: I see that Beal was invited to the 3-point contest last year but declined.

Bradley was in the 3 pt. shooting contest 3 or 4 years ago and came in second. I'm glad to see he's giving it another shot. Even happier that he's going to be an all-star...he deserves it despite the team's struggles.

The guy who really should be invited is Otto Porter. That guy is basically automatic when he gets a shot in rhythm.

DCZards · Post #780 » by **DCZards** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:16 pm

nate33 wrote:
DCZards wrote:
nate33 wrote:Odd that Beal made the 3-point contest this year when he's shooting the worst 3-point percentages of his career.

I think he deserved the All-Star game nod though. Kyrie, Derozan and Oladipo are definitely ahead of him, but I don't see how it's possible that at least two among Lowry, Walker and Wall are also ahead of him.

EDIT: I see that Beal was invited to the 3-point contest last year but declined.

Bradley was in the 3 pt. shooting contest 3 or 4 years ago and came in second. I'm glad to see he's giving it another shot. Even happier that he's going to be an all-star...he deserves it despite the team's struggles.

The guy who really should be invited is Otto Porter. That guy is basically automatic when he gets a shot in rhythm.

Otto needs the rest afforded by the all-star break. Right now, he's not shooting the 3 very well and that's a problem for the Zards.