Pointgod wrote:popper wrote:Pointgod wrote:
So tell me what exactly the destruction of America looks like to you in terms of multiculturalism. What does national suicide look like?
I'd want to reopen my history books to give you an answer worthy of your time.  I can easily imagine that subgroups of Americans would continue to splinter, but in a accelerated fashion, and hatred toward one another would intensify.  Probably increasing race against race violence as well.  Levels of trust among subgroups would disintegrate and any healthy avenue for interracial understanding would be constricted.  These animosities would no doubt have a deleterious effect on our economic system as well. 
Again, the history books are a better place to find the answers to your question.
 
I’m not an expert on American history, but racial violence was a reality for black people in America since the end of slavery. This never spilled out into a race war and black people never started insurgent groups or retaliated in kind to the treatment they had received. They fought for civil rights through peaceful means. The 60’s were a time of significant civil unrest in the name of civil rights and also there were a ton of assissinations thrown in there as well. My point is that America has been through a lot, yet it’s never slipped into the type of chaos you believe comes with multiculturalism. Are you basing your beliefs on sources or personal experience?
 
This is actually a very good post from PointGod.
This is just one of the reasons that I think African-Americans are among the greatest group of people on the entire planet.  Any other group on the planet would have revolted through non-peaceful means and in ways that would have damaged the country. The sacrifice our african american have made for this country is almost the reason this country had enough wealth to become its own country and weaned itself off of the banking European elite for a 125 years. (Until 1913 when the European Elite banking class recaptured the "united states" for their own purposes, but i digress). 
And at this point in history i am very proud and happy to see so many african americans prospering at the middle class, upper middle class, and upper class levels. 
The inequality issue remains in the lower class and entitlement class.  Where most, if not all of our lower class african americans have been here in this country for 5,6,7,8,9 generations and the system is not working for them. We Americans owe them more than that. We must (re)create a system that works for them. They have more than paid their dues. Their ancestors have sacrificed like no other racial group almost anywhere on planet earth. We owe them. Its that simple for me.
We owen them, bigly!!!
And i personally believe that immigration reform is at the cruz of making the system work better for african americans at the lower socio-economic levels.  I also think law and order is desperately needed in the neighborhoods. 
I cant say this enough. My entire patient base is south side city of chicago workers. Thousands of african-american teachers and african-american police officers. They tell me the same thing every single day. WE CAN FIX THIS!!!!
IN schools:
1. good schools have 20 kids in a class. 18-19 want to learn. 1-2 dont and attempt to disrupt class.
2. average schools have 12-15 kids trying to learn. 5-8 trying to disrupt class.
3. Poor schools in troubled areas have 8-10 kids trying to learn and 10-12 trying to disrupt class.
The answer is simple!!! get those troubled kids out of that school!!!! Or at least out of that class!!!  Put them in a military type school. With more structure. more discipline. Less focus on learning and more focus and on structure. Physicality. Exhaist them physically to the point that they can sit down and attempt to learn.  and once you got their attention? then try to teach them something. But mostly? Just get them out of the class and out of the school with the kids that are actually trying to learn!!!!!!!!!  Poor kids will learn too once you get the 8-10 jack azzes out of the class that are disrupting the class and bullying kids for trying to learn. Get em out!!!!  African-American Teachers, principles and the entire school district superintendents have been telling me this for years!!!!  But instead we have a policy in chicago called "no child left behind." In this no child left behind policy we have 19 years old (men) in the same class with 13 year old girls. Is that a good idea?????????  really???????
In neighborhoods:
African-American police officers have been telling me this for years!! YEARS!!!
1. Just let them do their damn job!!!!!!!!
that's it!!! one damn rule!!!  They say that they know where the enemy sleeps. The enemy in their neighborhoods are the drug dealers that purposefully trap young men and women (teenagers) on drugs. getting them hooked on drugs. and the women pregnant. and then hooked on entitlements. and often prostitution for the women. and then make the young men sell drugs on street corners and fight for their drug turf (with Guns).  Get them out!!!!! and dont be nice about!!!!!!!!  Why in God's name are we being nice about removing these predator drug dealers???  Especially if the police force in the area is 80-90% african american??? and those african americans are from that neighborhood!!!??????  Why are we worried about bull like "rights" when our children are being manipulated and abused!!!???  These are NOT white cops. They are african american cops that grew up in these neighborhoods!!!!
There should come a point when you say enough is enough!!!!  "Bill of rights" be damned we are fixing this shxt so we do NOT put one more single african american child at risk to this crap!!!  And to me? Its racists no NOT FIX THIS STUFF!!  To continue to leave it alone. and let this shxt continue is RACIST to me. Racist policy. That democrats have been employing in inner cities for over 40 years!!!! Allowing this crap to continue!!!
And why????  Why are we allowing this??
African americans have proven that they will flourish with fair opportunity. That they will indeed rise to the very top of any field. IQ test be damned!  They will become some of our best leaders and greatest of americans!!!  FACT!!  So why are we allowing high density african-american neighborhoods to continue to be preyed upon by drug dealers?????
Right now, those higher density, poorer african american neighborhoods are poor and working poor. But we know if there was more work opportunity and pay check with dignity more available, that these children will indeed succeed and flourish.
But our immigration laws and policy wont allow this to happen. We keep letting highly more motivated low end labor immigrants into this country. Which hurts our lower class and working poor(both white and black). It keeps their wages very low and opportunity extremely low. And instead keeps luring poor Americans(all of them: white, black, and brown) into the entitlement trap. And it is indeed a trap!!!
Immigration reform and closing off our borders to low end labor is a MAJOR MAJOR necessity to fixing our african american high density poor neighborhoods. And everyone with half a brain cell knows it!! Everyone! 
Let me restate:
The teachers in these communities tell me we can fix the schools. Almost overnight.
The police in the neighborhoods tell me we can clean them up.  Almost overnight.
and yes, that was a Grandmaster Flash reference.
like i said, its a full rebuild.