Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis

Post #781 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:21 am

Kanyewest wrote:BTW, an interesting note of the Magic/Wizards/Suns trade is that Fegan, who is an agent of Howard, Richardson, and Arenas (apparently he's advising him again), has been rumored to bringing this this trade together. Fegan also represents John Wall- go figure.

Sounds to me that Fegan "advised" Gil to get out of the way of his new cash cow, John Wall.

fishercob · Post #782 » by **fishercob** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:28 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Interesting article about the adjustment that Arenas has to make with Stan Van Gundy.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/20/gilb ... -common-g/

I agree though that the judgement of this trade will not come until the postseason. Benchmark for the Magic will be how they do in the postseason.

BTW, an interesting note of the Magic/Wizards/Suns trade is that Fegan, who is an agent of Howard, Richardson, and Arenas (apparently he's advising him again), has been rumored to bringing this this trade together. Fegan also represents John Wall- go figure.

Respect to SVG for sticking up for Gil in sort of a backhanded way:

"Gil is struggling right now, and the biggest thing he is struggling with now is me,'' said Van Gundy. "I'm harder on point guards than anyone else. He's not playing with a great deal of enthusiasm. He's not enjoying playing. And I'm a big reason. There is an adjustment he's going to have to make.''

"This isn't an easy adjustment for anyone,'' Van Gundy said. "When Rafer (Alston) came in (two seasons ago), he knew I was an A-hole. He was used to it. When Gil first came, he was playing well, and we weren't putting a lot on him. He was playing free. But the more we put on him, the harder it's been. I'm not saying it's my fault, but it's my responsibility to help make it work.''

Post #783 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:41 pm

The bottom line, imo, is Gil has to show he can finish in traffic. That'll make defenders give him space to shoot those pull-up 3's. When he clanks those pull-up 3's, and the opposition takes the long rebounds in for easy layups, his coach isn't encouraged to play him. Of course, if he can't finish...

GhostsOfGil · Post #784 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:16 pm

interesting quotes from svg. i always liked him as a coach. infact i like both vg brothers. svg's "no mid range shots" gameplan and attack attack attack is a mindset i wish we could implement on our players.

leswizards · Post #785 » by **leswizards** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:37 pm

Kanyewest wrote:I agree though that the judgement of this trade will not come until the postseason. Benchmark for the Magic will be how they do in the postseason.

Maybe from Orlando's perspective, the trade can't be judged until the playoffs, but as the Wizards weren't going to make the playoffs, it is pretty irrelevant how Gil does in the playoffs.

leswizards · Post #786 » by **leswizards** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:45 pm

The five stages of grief:

1. Denial - Gil is tanking it and will tear things up in Orlando; Gil is out of shape and will start tearing things up pretty soon; Gil has arthritis, but once his knees get better, he is going to regain his old form.
2. Anger - Orlando is a winning team, and the Wizards suck and anyone who has any optimism for the Wizards is stupid.
3. Bargaining - Yes Gil has not turned it around, but it is appaling that anyone would speak ill of Gil after all he has done for the Wizards; This trade can't be judged until the playoffs are over.
4. Depression - I wish this thread would just die already.
5. Acceptance - Wow, I hated this trade when it went down, but I have been pleasantly surprised by how well Rashard has played, and as Gil really hasn't done anything in Orlando, I am begining to accept this trade.

closg00 · Post #787 » by **closg00** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:00 pm

Lewis has a knee injury, didn't know.

Just a couple weeks ago, the Washington Wizards practiced for the first time with a full roster. Now injuries are beginning to mount again, as forward Rashard Lewis continues to deal with a sore right knee and swingman Josh Howard is not mending as quickly as he had hoped from a sore left knee.

Lewis played 37 minutes in last night's 100-87 loss to Milwaukee and finished with eight points while missing 8 of 11 shots, including all five of his three-pointers. The Wizards lost for the 20th consecutive time on the road since the start of the season.

The injury to Lewis comes at an especially inopportune time, with the Wizards in the middle of a grueling stretch of three games in four nights and eight games in 11 days. Washington plays Phoenix tomorrow in the first of two games in as many nights at Verizon Center. Its opponent on Saturday is Boston, which has the best record in the Eastern Conference.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizard ... ee-in.html

dobrojim · Post #788 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:23 am

Lewis has looked slightly gimpy but the main thing is
that his 3 ball ain't fallin and that's a huge part of
his game as it helps set up the rest of it. I'm somewhat
unconvinced that it's his knee that's causing his poor
3 pt shooting.

Kanyewest · Post #789 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:28 am

Maybe Lewis is reverting back to how he played on the Orlando Magic right before he was traded. Or it's just a slump that even the best of shooters go through.

dobrojim · Post #790 » by **dobrojim** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:32 am

yup - I think you're onto something

slump or reversion to his real level of play

JonathanJoseph · Post #791 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:27 am

leswizards wrote:The five stages of grief:

1. Denial - Gil is tanking it and will tear things up in Orlando; Gil is out of shape and will start tearing things up pretty soon; Gil has arthritis, but once his knees get better, he is going to regain his old form.
2. Anger - Orlando is a winning team, and the Wizards suck and anyone who has any optimism for the Wizards is stupid.
3. Bargaining - Yes Gil has not turned it around, but it is appaling that anyone would speak ill of Gil after all he has done for the Wizards; This trade can't be judged until the playoffs are over.
4. Depression - I wish this thread would just die already.
5. Acceptance - Wow, I hated this trade when it went down, but I have been pleasantly surprised by how well Rashard has played, and as Gil really hasn't done anything in Orlando, I am begining to accept this trade.

I don't necessarily agree with parts of this, but this is a HOF worthy post.

JonathanJoseph · Post #792 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:35 am

There's no sense in trying to make a heads-up assessment between Arenas and Lewis from game to game.

Both Otis Smith and SVG have very publicly criticized Arenas for poor play. And that's because a good player is playing poorly, not because he's is actually a poor player. SVG did not mince words, said he wasn't playing hard which would have been unthinkable in 2006. Arenas may not be the 2006 Hibachi, but neither is he the horrific shooting, can't finish, non-aggressive player he's been this season.

AceDegenerate · Post #793 » by **AceDegenerate** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:54 pm

Gilbert says:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQoJmi3-icw[/youtube]

to Wiz fans. :-)

DaRealHibachi · Post #794 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:05 pm

Gil rather say this to Wiz fans... :-?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-OIgXyvzUU[/youtube]

TGW · Post #795 » by **TGW** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:55 pm

leswizards wrote:The five stages of grief:

1. Denial - Gil is tanking it and will tear things up in Orlando; Gil is out of shape and will start tearing things up pretty soon; Gil has arthritis, but once his knees get better, he is going to regain his old form.
2. Anger - Orlando is a winning team, and the Wizards suck and anyone who has any optimism for the Wizards is stupid.
3. Bargaining - Yes Gil has not turned it around, but it is appaling that anyone would speak ill of Gil after all he has done for the Wizards; This trade can't be judged until the playoffs are over.
4. Depression - I wish this thread would just die already.
5. Acceptance - Wow, I hated this trade when it went down, but I have been pleasantly surprised by how well Rashard has played, and as Gil really hasn't done anything in Orlando, I am begining to accept this trade.

You forgot #6. Joy - happy that shotjacking, bricklaying, turnover prone, non-defending distraction is off the team.

AceDegenerate · Post #796 » by **AceDegenerate** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:14 pm

TGW wrote:
leswizards wrote:The five stages of grief:

1. Denial - Gil is tanking it and will tear things up in Orlando; Gil is out of shape and will start tearing things up pretty soon; Gil has arthritis, but once his knees get better, he is going to regain his old form.
2. Anger - Orlando is a winning team, and the Wizards suck and anyone who has any optimism for the Wizards is stupid.
3. Bargaining - Yes Gil has not turned it around, but it is appaling that anyone would speak ill of Gil after all he has done for the Wizards; This trade can't be judged until the playoffs are over.
4. Depression - I wish this thread would just die already.
5. Acceptance - Wow, I hated this trade when it went down, but I have been pleasantly surprised by how well Rashard has played, and as Gil really hasn't done anything in Orlando, I am begining to accept this trade.

You forgot #6. Joy - happy that shotjacking, bricklaying, turnover prone, non-defending distraction is off the team.

It's always nice to find something to be happy about when the team is historically bad. 12-29 and 0-20 on the road sure won't make you smile. :lol:

JonathanJoseph · Post #797 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:56 pm

But as one NBA executive told me recently, Lewis's contract does stunt the possibility of the Wizards to make immediate improvements and places them in a difficult situation because he should play power forward, a position that is currently occupied by Andray Blatche.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2011/01/rashard-lewis-on-trade-rumors.html

I think I got killed a few pages ago for making this point.

Benjammin · Post #798 » by **Benjammin** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:10 am

Who really cares what position Lewis plays? This team isn't going anywhere anyway and any team that actually would want to trade for Lewis knows what his game is like. It's not like there's an awesome young 3 on the bench whose minutes are being cut because Lewis is starting.

tontoz · Post #799 » by **tontoz** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:43 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:
But as one NBA executive told me recently, Lewis's contract does stunt the possibility of the Wizards to make immediate improvements and places them in a difficult situation because he should play power forward, a position that is currently occupied by Andray Blatche.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2011/01/rashard-lewis-on-trade-rumors.html

I think I got killed a few pages ago for making this point.

Probably because it makes no sense. Rashard is playing well at the 3 and his contract is much smaller than Gil's.

dandridge 10 · Post #800 » by **dandridge 10** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:46 am

I'm usually not the one to report third party stuff, as you never know how reliable it is. However, I had an interesting conversation today that I wanted to share. I had a technician from an audio video company come by my house today to help me with my surround sound. The tech noticed some Wizards stuff in my house and he told me he was a fan too. We started talking about Gil and he mentioned that he has met Gil a few times because his company installed all the tvs and audio stuff in the locker room at the Verizon Center. He started talking about how Gil was a weird dude and then proceeded to tell me that while he was working in the locker room, Gilbert brought a bb gun in the lockerroom. He said that Gil was messing around and he accidently shot Nick Young in the cheek with a bb. He said that it was one of the craziest things he ever saw. He never reported it to anyone because he didnt want to cause any problems...just wanted to do his work at get out. He also said that the story obviously never got out, even though multiple players saw it happen. You never know if any of this is true at all, but I got to tell you, the guy seemed believable when he told me this story. And, given the fact we know Gil brought real guns in the lockeroom, and we all know he is a jokester, I wouldn't be surprised if the story was true.