Nick Young traded to Clippers/McGee to Denver/Nene to DC

[dobrojim]

I fail to see how one decent game in Denver means that McGee has "turned the corner". McGee had tons of awesome games with big numbers and good effort with the Wizards too. The issue with McGee is whether or not he ever learns how to defend the pick and roll. It's worth pointing out that Denver barely squeaked by with a win at home against the lowly Detroit Pistons, and they gave up 115 points in the process. I didn't watch the game so I have no idea how instrumental McGee was in giving up those points.

+1 on both you and Ruz

We know McGee is capable of making great athletic plays
where little to no thinking is involved. Yawn.

[dobrojim]

The trade may turn out to be a big mistake for the Wiz or not, and Javale may turn into an all-star for all we know, but... right now it feels so good to have professionals out there who know how to play the game - and don't make you worry about what they're going to do next. And my dentist will be happy, because I can watch Wiz games without grinding my teeth. Though it would be nice if they can find a couple more 3 point shooters.

+1

Although Chuck Crawford had a great game, I still think Mason is the better option at SG. I like RMJ shooting threes. In the draft John Jenkins and Damian Lillard are automatic from three point territory. This offseason, the Wizards need to acquire Batum--he can hit threes and is also good in transition.

it's only one game but Chuck had a better game than your boy Brooks.
One game...

[Zonkerbl]

On a team without any truly reliable scorers you need ball movement to have any chance at all. McGee did not pass very well and Nene is a relatively good passer, so in that sense also he's a good fit.

If we get a good draft pick next year, and we draft a disciplined, reliable post scorer, will that make Nene less of a good fit?

[Nuggets_Talk]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

[GoneShammGone]

On a team without any truly reliable scorers you need ball movement to have any chance at all. McGee did not pass very well and Nene is a relatively good passer, so in that sense also he's a good fit.
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Speaking of that... John Wall from the Post game story:

“It takes a lot of pressure off the guards if you can give somebody the ball in the low post that can score and also pass. We had to get used to cutting because we know we might get the ball back. Before, we just cut nonchalantly because nine times out 10, you wasn’t getting the ball back.”

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/wizards-vs-nets-nene-leads-washington-to-win-in-his-debut-with-the-team/2012/03/21/gIQASAloSS_story.html)

More evidence of the need to surround young players with competent veterans who play the game the correct way. Breaking up JWall and Javale was a necessity. Actually, it will probably end up benefitting both players in the long run. But I'm still happy with the guy we got and the guy we kept.

[youngthegiant]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

exactly... and i'll tell you guys, nene getting a double double only happened once in a blue moon, so rare to see.....

[DaRealHibachi]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

exactly... and i'll tell you guys, nene getting a double double only happened once in a blue moon, so rare to see.....

I'll bet we'll be allot less frustrated with Nene than you guys with McGee... You ain't seen nothing yet...

[Nivek]

Nene has 97 double-doubles in his career -- a little more frequently than once every 6 games. Or, a double-double approximately every couple weeks throughout his career. A blue moon occurs about once every 15 months.

Might wanna check your cliches big guy.

[dobrojim]

Hey Nugs guys that appear to be happy with McGee/glad to see Nene gone,

Wiz fans might like dub-dubs from Nene on a reg basis, maybe
they get them, maybe they don't. But many of us are so relieved
to not have to deal with the frustration of having a player with
immense physical skills but such a disappointing positive effect
on winning games on a regular basis. Maybe that changes. Many
of us are skeptical that it will.

[tontoz]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

We know McGee's game. He can look good offensively but has a low IQ and he is soft. That isn't going to change. He isn't going to pass when he gets the ball down low and he won't make good rotations on D. Forget about defending the pick and roll.

He also has asthma which is going to be a problem in Denver.

Nene has been a good 2 way player his whole career. We know he is shaky on the boards but at least he knows how to play the right way. We aren't expecting him to average 22/10.

[tontoz]

“It takes a lot of pressure off the guards if you can give somebody the ball in the low post that can score and also pass. We had to get used to cutting because we know we might get the ball back. Before, we just cut nonchalantly because nine times out 10, you wasn’t getting the ball back.”

I remember someone posting a link talking about how Wall doesn't cut often enough. I have a feeling that will change now.

[Nuggets_Talk]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

exactly... and i'll tell you guys, nene getting a double double only happened once in a blue moon, so rare to see.....

I'll bet we'll be allot less frustrated with Nene than you guys with McGee... You ain't seen nothing yet...

we got him for one year. you get nene for 5.

[Nuggets_Talk]

Hey Nugs guys that appear to be happy with McGee/glad to see Nene gone,

Wiz fans might like dub-dubs from Nene on a reg basis, maybe
they get them, maybe they don't. But many of us are so relieved
to not have to deal with the frustration of having a player with
immense physical skills but such a disappointing positive effect
on winning games on a regular basis. Maybe that changes. Many
of us are skeptical that it will.

i like nene and wish him the best (and the wizards). but the homeristic one-sided views of nene and mcgee on this board are just funny. should i have expected differently?

i do not question your doubt about whether mcgee can change - because frankly its one game. i get that. but to then do the exact same thing with nene? to think one game has changed him into a tough 20-10 force every night? uh...nice try.

i have nothing against washington - hope you make the playoffs next year.

[Nuggets_Talk]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

We know McGee's game. He can look good offensively but has a low IQ and he is soft. That isn't going to change. He isn't going to pass when he gets the ball down low and he won't make good rotations on D. Forget about defending the pick and roll.

He also has asthma which is going to be a problem in Denver.

Nene has been a good 2 way player his whole career. We know he is shaky on the boards but at least he knows how to play the right way. We aren't expecting him to average 22/10.

exactly. you are going to get the same nene we saw for 8 years (despite what most of this board is hoping for). no reason that should change because of a new city.

[tontoz]

Hey Nugs guys that appear to be happy with McGee/glad to see Nene gone,

Wiz fans might like dub-dubs from Nene on a reg basis, maybe
they get them, maybe they don't. But many of us are so relieved
to not have to deal with the frustration of having a player with
immense physical skills but such a disappointing positive effect
on winning games on a regular basis. Maybe that changes. Many
of us are skeptical that it will.

i like nene and wish him the best (and the wizards). but the homeristic one-sided views of nene and mcgee on this board are just funny. should i have expected differently?

i do not question your doubt about whether mcgee can change - because frankly its one game. i get that. but to then do the exact same thing with nene? to think one game has changed him into a tough 20-10 force every night? uh...nice try.

i have nothing against washington - hope you make the playoffs next year.

Please point out where anyone said they expected Nene to be a 20-10 player. I must have missed it.

[DaRealHibachi]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

We know McGee's game. He can look good offensively but has a low IQ and he is soft. That isn't going to change. He isn't going to pass when he gets the ball down low and he won't make good rotations on D. Forget about defending the pick and roll.

He also has asthma which is going to be a problem in Denver.

Nene has been a good 2 way player his whole career. We know he is shaky on the boards but at least he knows how to play the right way. We aren't expecting him to average 22/10.

exactly. you are going to get the same nene we saw for 8 years (despite what most of this board is hoping for). no reason that should change because of a new city.

And that's a bad thing how exactly...???

[nate33]

Hey Nugs guys that appear to be happy with McGee/glad to see Nene gone,

Wiz fans might like dub-dubs from Nene on a reg basis, maybe
they get them, maybe they don't. But many of us are so relieved
to not have to deal with the frustration of having a player with
immense physical skills but such a disappointing positive effect
on winning games on a regular basis. Maybe that changes. Many
of us are skeptical that it will.

i like nene and wish him the best (and the wizards). but the homeristic one-sided views of nene and mcgee on this board are just funny. should i have expected differently?

i do not question your doubt about whether mcgee can change - because frankly its one game. i get that. but to then do the exact same thing with nene? to think one game has changed him into a tough 20-10 force every night? uh...nice try.

i have nothing against washington - hope you make the playoffs next year.

You are missing the point, Nuggets Talk.

It's not that we're happy about the 22 and 10. We're just happy to see a competent two-way big man constantly make the right plays. It wouldn't have bothered me if his shot wasn't falling and he posted 14-8 instead of 22 and 10. He still would have made the right rotations on D, passed to the cutter on offense, and stepped out to challenge the pick and roll.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if McGee posts better box score stats than Nene for the rest of the season. We know what McGee can do. He'll get boards, crash the offensive glass, finish plays on the interior, get out on the break, block shots, and occasionally score with a nice sweeping hook shot. All those lead to high point and rebound totals. But they don't lead to wins unless he does the little things too. That's where he has consistently disappointed.

[Nuggets_Talk]

Hey Nugs guys that appear to be happy with McGee/glad to see Nene gone,

Wiz fans might like dub-dubs from Nene on a reg basis, maybe
they get them, maybe they don't. But many of us are so relieved
to not have to deal with the frustration of having a player with
immense physical skills but such a disappointing positive effect
on winning games on a regular basis. Maybe that changes. Many
of us are skeptical that it will.

i like nene and wish him the best (and the wizards). but the homeristic one-sided views of nene and mcgee on this board are just funny. should i have expected differently?

i do not question your doubt about whether mcgee can change - because frankly its one game. i get that. but to then do the exact same thing with nene? to think one game has changed him into a tough 20-10 force every night? uh...nice try.

i have nothing against washington - hope you make the playoffs next year.

Please point out where anyone said they expected Nene to be a 20-10 player. I must have missed it.

my point was one game doesnt change nene into what he did in his first game. whatever the stats are you expect - doesnt matter to me. the views on this board are all one sided - you are saying one thing for nene and exact opposite for mcgee.

[Illuminaire]

its cute how mcgee has a good game and it means nothing - he will revert back to his old self. but nene has a good first game and thats how hes going to be for the rest of the year? not that the last 7-8 years of nene's career meant anything either?

homer much?

It's cool of you to come to another team's board and call the posters there homers. You're a sparkling member of the RealGM community, a true gem. Don't change just because some people might consider that behavior smack-tardian in the highest degree.

[tontoz]

my point was one game doesnt change nene into what he did in his first game. the views on this board are all one sided - you are saying one thing for nene and exact opposite for mcgee

No. In reality we just want Nene to continue to play the way he has played for years. We expect McGee to continue to play the way he has played for us. If he does the Nuggets will probably let him walk.

Many of us didn't think McGee was even the best center on this team and wanted to let him walk if he didn't get traded.