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Post#781 » by tontoz » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:31 pm

nate33 wrote:I say we offer just the #3 and be done with it.



I don't think we can do that now that we pissed away our capspace on a pointless trade.
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Post#782 » by cwb3 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:35 pm

I will watch the draft tonight, and Vegas Summer League to follow, and bathe in the warm feeling of high expectations until November.
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Post#783 » by dangermouse » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:44 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Drummond is aerodynamic


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Oh yeah, forgot images are blocked....

So ill just say, dude, how are you not trolling? Drummond is aerodynamic. Drummond is aerodynamic. Say it with me. I cant even say it without bursting out with laughter....
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Post#784 » by tontoz » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:50 pm

dangermouse wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:Drummond is aerodynamic


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Oh yeah, forgot images are blocked....

So ill just say, dude, how are you not trolling? Drummond is aerodynamic. Drummond is aerodynamic. Say it with me. I cant even say it without bursting out with laughter....



I REALLY wish i could do photoshop right now lol.
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Post#785 » by Severn Hoos » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:51 pm

Thinking about what it's like to watch the Draft as a Wizards' fan....

Watching the Draft Lottery is, most years, like watching the actual lottery that comes on right before the local news. You have your numbers, and you don't really think they'll come up, but it's fun to dream. And when you strike out, tear up the slips and go on with your life. (Although, to make the analogy complete - given the way the Wiz have almost always gone backwards, it'd be like seeing your numbers didn't come up and then having to go back to the gas station and give them another $20 after the fact. But I digress...)

Most years, Draft Night is like watching a Norv Turner-era Redskins game. Again, you don't expect to win, but go into it with some hope ("Maybe they can pull off the trade-up to get Kanter!"). Then, some promising developments fuel even more hope ("Maybe Caron Butler will slip all the way to 10!"). And just when you think we might finally catch a break and we'll end up with a win, Gus throws a pick-six in the final minute ("I CANNOT believe we passed on Karl Malone/Fareid/fill in the blank" or "I can't believe we missed out on Reggie Miller/Caron Butler/Roy Hibbert by ONE SPOT!")

Tonight is starting to feel like watching a cheap horror movie. You know the kids shouldn't go into the house. All they have to do is get back in the car and drive away. And yet they keep walking to the house. And go in. And don't leave. And end up as sushi. All EG has to do is stay where he is and take Beal (my preference) or MKG. That's it. And yet, all through the day, the tension will continue to build. I can already hear the scary music in the background. Rumors start to leak about a Gasol trade. Or a Blatche dump. Or how much we like Drummond's upside. And in the end, in an all-too-predictable finale, we end up with.....Harrison Barnes. :eek2:

Sure hope I'm wrong on this one, but that's absolutely the way it feels 10 hours ahead of time.
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Post#786 » by Jay81 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:51 pm

has this ever been done...

we trade our 3 to charlotte for their 2 straight up.

Why for us: We get Beal
why for them: They get TRob and save money for rookie contract
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#787 » by Nivek » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:52 pm

DCZards wrote:
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DCZards wrote:You keep saying Harden is a top 20 player. I'm not convinced that he is.


He might not be top 20, but he's at least top 30 right now and he's 22 years old.


I can see top 30...but is he worth the 3rd pick AND Seraphin?


Depends on what you think of Seraphin. Whoever the Wizards get at #3 is going to take a year or two (or more) to develop into something akin to what Harden is already -- if he ever gets there. Seraphin -- even in down the stretch when he was playing his best ball of the year -- rated only a shade better than average in my system. He showed promise, but still needs to develop. The trade for Okafor suggests that the Wizards don't view Seraphin as a full-time starter (at least not yet).

I would've been fine starting him this season if the Wizards hadn't made that Okafor trade, but whatever -- that horse is long dead.

The big issue with trading for Harden would be re-signing him.

All of this is moot according to Doug Gottleib(sp?) from ESPN. He says OKC plans to re-sign Harden and Ibaka and keep the band together until the luxury tax forces them to make a move.
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#788 » by Ruzious » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:54 pm

Nivek wrote:This reminds me: the Wizards new uniforms next year will be designed to increase the aerodynamics of every player on the roster ...

Well, I was overdue for a checkup with the eye doctor, anyway.
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#789 » by sfam » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:01 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Thinking about what it's like to watch the Draft as a Wizards' fan....

Watching the Draft Lottery is, most years, like watching the actual lottery that comes on right before the local news. You have your numbers, and you don't really think they'll come up, but it's fun to dream. And when you strike out, tear up the slips and go on with your life. (Although, to make the analogy complete - given the way the Wiz have almost always gone backwards, it'd be like seeing your numbers didn't come up and then having to go back to the gas station and give them another $20 after the fact. But I digress...)

Most years, Draft Night is like watching a Norv Turner-era Redskins game. Again, you don't expect to win, but go into it with some hope ("Maybe they can pull off the trade-up to get Kanter!"). Then, some promising developments fuel even more hope ("Maybe Caron Butler will slip all the way to 10!"). And just when you think we might finally catch a break and we'll end up with a win, Gus throws a pick-six in the final minute ("I CANNOT believe we passed on Karl Malone/Fareid/fill in the blank" or "I can't believe we missed out on Reggie Miller/Caron Butler/Roy Hibbert by ONE SPOT!")

Tonight is starting to feel like watching a cheap horror movie. You know the kids shouldn't go into the house. All they have to do is get back in the car and drive away. And yet they keep walking to the house. And go in. And don't leave. And end up as sushi. All EG has to do is stay where he is and take Beal (my preference) or MKG. That's it. And yet, all through the day, the tension will continue to build. I can already hear the scary music in the background. Rumors start to leak about a Gasol trade. Or a Blatche dump. Or how much we like Drummond's upside. And in the end, in an all-too-predictable finale, we end up with.....Harrison Barnes. :eek2:

Sure hope I'm wrong on this one, but that's absolutely the way it feels 10 hours ahead of time.


I think I prefer the time back in the day where you used to wait for Glenn Brenner (my all time fav sports caster - he was a RIOT) and then later George Michael (Brenner seemed to come on like 5 minutes earlier usually) talk about the draft. The first draft I remember being excited to read about was around 1980ish, where we got Rick Mahorn in an early round. Him plus Ruland the next year (I forgot how we drafted him) gave me hope that the Beef Brothers could return us to contendas... Suffice to say, that didn't happen. Then we had the parade of dwarfs and skinny thin Giants, and finally lots of draft trades for the latest has been. Yeah...most years, draft day for Wizards fans are not good days.
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#790 » by 7-Day Dray » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:01 pm

Nivek wrote:
WizarDynasty wrote:Drummond is aerodynamic


This reminds me: the Wizards new uniforms next year will be designed to increase the aerodynamics of every player on the roster ...

























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I swore that was Jan Vesely when I first saw that pic. :lol:
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Post#791 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:03 pm

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source: Bobcats have five legit offers they're currently exploring to trade the second pick overall in tonight's NBA Draft.

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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#792 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:03 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Drummond is aerodynamic


This absolutely has to be the post of the year.
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Post#793 » by fishercob » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:05 pm

Jay81 wrote:has this ever been done...

we trade our 3 to charlotte for their 2 straight up.

Why for us: We get Beal
why for them: They get TRob and save money for rookie contract


I think so. NOt sure if there were other terms, but I dont remember any in these swaps:

Jamison for Carter
Roy for Foye
Traylor for Nowitzki
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Post#794 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:07 pm

Jay81 wrote:has this ever been done...

we trade our 3 to charlotte for their 2 straight up.

Why for us: We get Beal
why for them: They get TRob and save money for rookie contract


Hmm interesting although the difference between the 2 and 3 pick over 4 years is only about 1.2 million.
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Post#795 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:22 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Thinking about what it's like to watch the Draft as a Wizards' fan....

Watching the Draft Lottery is, most years, like watching the actual lottery that comes on right before the local news. You have your numbers, and you don't really think they'll come up, but it's fun to dream. And when you strike out, tear up the slips and go on with your life. (Although, to make the analogy complete - given the way the Wiz have almost always gone backwards, it'd be like seeing your numbers didn't come up and then having to go back to the gas station and give them another $20 after the fact. But I digress...)

Most years, Draft Night is like watching a Norv Turner-era Redskins game. Again, you don't expect to win, but go into it with some hope ("Maybe they can pull off the trade-up to get Kanter!"). Then, some promising developments fuel even more hope ("Maybe Caron Butler will slip all the way to 10!"). And just when you think we might finally catch a break and we'll end up with a win, Gus throws a pick-six in the final minute ("I CANNOT believe we passed on Karl Malone/Fareid/fill in the blank" or "I can't believe we missed out on Reggie Miller/Caron Butler/Roy Hibbert by ONE SPOT!")

Tonight is starting to feel like watching a cheap horror movie. You know the kids shouldn't go into the house. All they have to do is get back in the car and drive away. And yet they keep walking to the house. And go in. And don't leave. And end up as sushi. All EG has to do is stay where he is and take Beal (my preference) or MKG. That's it. And yet, all through the day, the tension will continue to build. I can already hear the scary music in the background. Rumors start to leak about a Gasol trade. Or a Blatche dump. Or how much we like Drummond's upside. And in the end, in an all-too-predictable finale, we end up with.....Harrison Barnes. :eek2:

Sure hope I'm wrong on this one, but that's absolutely the way it feels 10 hours ahead of time.


This is arguably the worst night to be a Wizards fan.

I don't expect anything good to happen tonight. I can only be pleasantly surprised if something half way positive goes down. Barnes is such an Ernie pick. Mediocre and he won't ever be a star. Grunfeld could reach into a bag of gold dust and come out with a hand full of nothing but sand.
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#796 » by sfam » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:51 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote: Grunfeld could reach into a bag of gold dust and come out with a hand full of nothing but sand.

Great analogy!
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#797 » by penbeast0 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:52 pm

sfam wrote:
Severn Hoos wrote:Thinking about what it's like to watch the Draft as a Wizards' fan....

Watching the Draft Lottery is, most years, like watching the actual lottery that comes on right before the local news. You have your numbers, and you don't really think they'll come up, but it's fun to dream. And when you strike out, tear up the slips and go on with your life. (Although, to make the analogy complete - given the way the Wiz have almost always gone backwards, it'd be like seeing your numbers didn't come up and then having to go back to the gas station and give them another $20 after the fact. But I digress...)

Most years, Draft Night is like watching a Norv Turner-era Redskins game. Again, you don't expect to win, but go into it with some hope ("Maybe they can pull off the trade-up to get Kanter!"). Then, some promising developments fuel even more hope ("Maybe Caron Butler will slip all the way to 10!"). And just when you think we might finally catch a break and we'll end up with a win, Gus throws a pick-six in the final minute ("I CANNOT believe we passed on Karl Malone/Fareid/fill in the blank" or "I can't believe we missed out on Reggie Miller/Caron Butler/Roy Hibbert by ONE SPOT!")

Tonight is starting to feel like watching a cheap horror movie. You know the kids shouldn't go into the house. All they have to do is get back in the car and drive away. And yet they keep walking to the house. And go in. And don't leave. And end up as sushi. All EG has to do is stay where he is and take Beal (my preference) or MKG. That's it. And yet, all through the day, the tension will continue to build. I can already hear the scary music in the background. Rumors start to leak about a Gasol trade. Or a Blatche dump. Or how much we like Drummond's upside. And in the end, in an all-too-predictable finale, we end up with.....Harrison Barnes. :eek2:

Sure hope I'm wrong on this one, but that's absolutely the way it feels 10 hours ahead of time.


I think I prefer the time back in the day where you used to wait for Glenn Brenner (my all time fav sports caster - he was a RIOT) and then later George Michael (Brenner seemed to come on like 5 minutes earlier usually) talk about the draft. The first draft I remember being excited to read about was around 1980ish, where we got Rick Mahorn in an early round. Him plus Ruland the next year (I forgot how we drafted him) gave me hope that the Beef Brothers could return us to contendas... Suffice to say, that didn't happen. Then we had the parade of dwarfs and skinny thin Giants, and finally lots of draft trades for the latest has been. Yeah...most years, draft day for Wizards fans are not good days.


I used to get my draft news from the radio because Ken Beatrice always seemed about 10X more knowledgeable than anyone else out there. Yes, he had a nasal voice, patted himself on the back a lot, and avoided humor on his show but if you wanted good information, he was easily the best sportscaster I've ever heard up to this day.
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Post#798 » by Ruzious » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:03 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
sfam wrote:I think I prefer the time back in the day where you used to wait for Glenn Brenner (my all time fav sports caster - he was a RIOT) and then later George Michael (Brenner seemed to come on like 5 minutes earlier usually) talk about the draft. The first draft I remember being excited to read about was around 1980ish, where we got Rick Mahorn in an early round. Him plus Ruland the next year (I forgot how we drafted him) gave me hope that the Beef Brothers could return us to contendas... Suffice to say, that didn't happen. Then we had the parade of dwarfs and skinny thin Giants, and finally lots of draft trades for the latest has been. Yeah...most years, draft day for Wizards fans are not good days.


I used to get my draft news from the radio because Ken Beatrice always seemed about 10X more knowledgeable than anyone else out there. Yes, he had a nasal voice, patted himself on the back a lot, and avoided humor on his show but if you wanted good information, he was easily the best sportscaster I've ever heard up to this day.

I'm tempted to stop by Arby's for an order of curly fries and a jamocha shake. He was it for any kind of sports analysis back in the day, but I couldn't stand listening to him for more than a half hour at a time. Gawd luv ya, sir.
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Re: 2012 Draft, Part VI (Draft Week is Here!) 

Post#799 » by DCZards » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:04 pm

Nivek wrote:Depends on what you think of Seraphin. Whoever the Wizards get at #3 is going to take a year or two (or more) to develop into something akin to what Harden is already -- if he ever gets there.


I actually see it the other way--it depends what you think of Harden. He's good, very good, but I think either Beal or MKG (or even Barnes) could turn out to be just as good...and you'd still have Kevin who has shown impressive development and I'd expect that to continue. I don't think the trade for Okafor is a reason to consider trading Kevin.
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Post#800 » by manifested » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:05 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Thinking about what it's like to watch the Draft as a Wizards' fan....

Watching the Draft Lottery is, most years, like watching the actual lottery that comes on right before the local news. You have your numbers, and you don't really think they'll come up, but it's fun to dream. And when you strike out, tear up the slips and go on with your life. (Although, to make the analogy complete - given the way the Wiz have almost always gone backwards, it'd be like seeing your numbers didn't come up and then having to go back to the gas station and give them another $20 after the fact. But I digress...)

Most years, Draft Night is like watching a Norv Turner-era Redskins game. Again, you don't expect to win, but go into it with some hope ("Maybe they can pull off the trade-up to get Kanter!"). Then, some promising developments fuel even more hope ("Maybe Caron Butler will slip all the way to 10!"). And just when you think we might finally catch a break and we'll end up with a win, Gus throws a pick-six in the final minute ("I CANNOT believe we passed on Karl Malone/Fareid/fill in the blank" or "I can't believe we missed out on Reggie Miller/Caron Butler/Roy Hibbert by ONE SPOT!")

Tonight is starting to feel like watching a cheap horror movie. You know the kids shouldn't go into the house. All they have to do is get back in the car and drive away. And yet they keep walking to the house. And go in. And don't leave. And end up as sushi. All EG has to do is stay where he is and take Beal (my preference) or MKG. That's it. And yet, all through the day, the tension will continue to build. I can already hear the scary music in the background. Rumors start to leak about a Gasol trade. Or a Blatche dump. Or how much we like Drummond's upside. And in the end, in an all-too-predictable finale, we end up with.....Harrison Barnes. :eek2:

Sure hope I'm wrong on this one, but that's absolutely the way it feels 10 hours ahead of time.



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