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Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#781 » by nate33 » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:10 pm

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theboomking wrote:I already googled this, question, and am not being lazy. Do you guys know any site that lists PER by month? I was curious to see how Wall's PER looked in March.

Wall is posting a PER of 25.82 this month.


Thanks a lot, I also wanted to know the PER by month. Wall played at a superstar level for the month of March.

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That website has PER by month. Wall posted a PER of 18.38 in January, a PER of 13.25 in February and a PER of 25.82 in March.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#782 » by tontoz » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:23 pm

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TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Thanks a lot, I also wanted to know the PER by month. Wall played at a superstar level for the month of March.

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That website has PER by month. Wall posted a PER of 18.38 in January, a PER of 13.25 in February and a PER of 25.82 in March.




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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#783 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Apr 1, 2013 5:40 pm

nate33 wrote:?

That website has PER by month. Wall posted a PER of 18.38 in January, a PER of 13.25 in February and a PER of 25.82 in March.


I know that, I was thanking you for posting the site.

"Thanks a lot, I also wanted to know the per by month (just like theboomking)"
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#784 » by fishercob » Mon Apr 1, 2013 6:44 pm

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fishercob wrote:It would be great if we could somehow turn some combo of our two seconds, Vesely, Seraphin, Booker and Satoransky into a young defensive big who could replace Okafor in the long term (Dieng, Len, Lucas Nogueira).

Seraphin for a pick high enough to get Dieng/Withey would work. Keep Booker as defensive stopper against guys like Blake Griffin and Carmelo. Draft Burke/McCollum with our pick:

PG Wall/Burke
SG Beal/Burke/Webster
SF Webster/Ariza/Singleton
PF Ilyasova/Nene/Booker
C Okafor/Nene/Withey

That team still only takes as as far as Nene can hold up, but the rest of the rotation is rock solid, and there is a succession plan for Ariza and Okafor.


We can't draft Burke or McCollum -- we're trading the pick for Ilyasova. But even with AJ Price coming back for the minimum, it looks good to me:

Wall/Price
Beal/Webster
Webster/Ariza/Singleton
Ilyasova/Nene/Book
Okafor/Nene/Withey

It would be nice to replace Price with a PG who shoots better from distance. I also like keeping Singleton as a defensive specialist to use in spots against long wings.

Next summer we let Ariza walk altogether and hopefully bring Okafor back at a deep discount (3/$21M?) Our focus in the draft would be finding Ariza's replacement. Or cap situation would still be decent, yes?
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#785 » by DCZards » Mon Apr 1, 2013 6:54 pm

I'm not a fan of drafting Burke or McCollum to come off the bench, especially when the Zards are in desparate need for young big to develop. I think you can get a long-range shooting guard to back up Wall and/or Beal in the second round or through free aegncy. Or just keep Price or Temple around for another year.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#786 » by tontoz » Mon Apr 1, 2013 7:02 pm

I would have no problem drafting a 3rd guard. This teams biggest weakness is depth and there is a huge falloff if either Wall or Beal or out. If we draft a combo guard he could easily get plenty of time behind both Wall and Beal and will obviously get extended time if one of them is out.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#787 » by jivelikenice » Mon Apr 1, 2013 7:11 pm

I don't mind a combo guard as well. Burke isn't really a combo guard (and I don't think hell be there when we pick) so I don't know if he's a good fit. That being said, front court scoring is the greater need IMO. We don't have anyone in the frontcourt that I can project being a reliable scorer 3 years down the road.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#788 » by nate33 » Mon Apr 1, 2013 7:27 pm

jivelikenice wrote:I don't mind a combo guard as well. Burke isn't really a combo guard (and I don't think hell be there when we pick) so I don't know if he's a good fit. That being said, front court scoring is the greater need IMO. We don't have anyone in the frontcourt that I can project being a reliable scorer 3 years down the road.

The beauty of our backcourt is that our 3rd guard doesn't technically have to be a combo guard. He can be a pure PG (as long as he can shoot it). Wall is big enough to guard SG's.

I'd take Burke simply because I think he's the best guard in this draft. I'm not wedded to him for any particular reason, and if another combo guard or PG proves his meddle, I'd take him too. But basically, I want another guard who is starting caliber. There's enough minutes to go around for Wall, Beal and this third guard.

I want a 3-guard rotation of all starting-caliber players (Wall, Beal and a shooting PG or combo guard). I want a 3-big rotation of all starting caliber players (Okafor, Nene and a stretch 4). Webster and Ariza are the 3&D SF's. Everyone else is expendable to achieve this rotation. Basically, use Seraphin, Vesely, Booker and our pick to acquire this stretch four and 3rd guard. Hopefully, we end up with at least one young big man leftover (either Seraphin or a draft pick like Dieng or Withey) to groom as an eventual Okafor/Nene replacement.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#789 » by Ruzious » Mon Apr 1, 2013 7:49 pm

I agree with the last 3 posts. Even if Wall and Beal stay healthy, the 3rd guard could play more than 25 minutes a game. And without a good 3rd guard, we're dead if Wall or Beal get injured for a prolonged period. We need one of them.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#790 » by DCZards » Mon Apr 1, 2013 8:23 pm

My preference would be to use the first round pick on a young big like Bennett or Len...and then pick up Erick Green from Va Tech in the second round who has the size and skills to back up both the PG and SG positions.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#791 » by blazinskillz » Mon Apr 1, 2013 8:42 pm

Can we clean this thread up a little guys? We already have a draft thread, we should stick to that topic there. this is a appreciation thread.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#792 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Apr 1, 2013 9:15 pm

Wall nominated for March's Eastern Conference player of the month. The other nominees are Lebron, Deron, and Wade. Lebron will probably take this one but it's nice to see Wall finally get some media love.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/award ... index.html

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#793 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Apr 1, 2013 11:05 pm

DCZards wrote:My preference would be to use the first round pick on a young big like Bennett or Len...and then pick up Erick Green from Va Tech in the second round who has the size and skills to back up both the PG and SG positions.



I agree, we aren't in the position to take a luxury pick in the first round (another guard). We need to add a big man to our core.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#794 » by tontoz » Mon Apr 1, 2013 11:16 pm

Watching the Toronto game now. I saw Wall make a move i don't think i have seen from him before. He drove to the left side of the basket with his left hand, slowed down near the rim, reached back and put it in with his right hand. Clearly it is the type of move meant to throw off the timing of the defense.

When i used to play i had decent speed but no hops. Sometimes when i would drive hard to the basket i would slow down right at the rim before releasing the shot to throw off the defenders timing and it worked consistently. Nice to see Wall adding this to his game.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#795 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Mon Apr 1, 2013 11:25 pm

Back on subject, a great read about Wall breaking out

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-john-walls-play-silences-critics
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#796 » by tontoz » Tue Apr 2, 2013 2:19 am

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Back on subject, a great read about Wall breaking out

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-john-walls-play-silences-critics



Props to Van Gundy for being willing to say he might have been wrong. i won't hold my breath waiting for Falk to do it though.

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#797 » by Higga » Tue Apr 2, 2013 3:31 am

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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#798 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Apr 2, 2013 3:55 am

Sorry, I did think I was in the draft thread. :oops:

Wall has made me think more about drafting the right big or swing man more than drafting a third guard.
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#799 » by AFM » Tue Apr 2, 2013 4:05 am

Edit-- you confused me too!
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Re: Official John Wall Appreciation Thread 2.0 

Post#800 » by sfam » Tue Apr 2, 2013 4:49 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
DCZards wrote:My preference would be to use the first round pick on a young big like Bennett or Len...and then pick up Erick Green from Va Tech in the second round who has the size and skills to back up both the PG and SG positions.



I agree, we aren't in the position to take a luxury pick in the first round (another guard). We need to add a big man to our core.

I look at a 3 guard rotation as core, not luxury. Right now we die if Wall is hurt for more than a game or two. I'm sure Wall would appreciate someone like burke backing up him and Beal.

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