Political Roundtable Part XXII

stilldropin20 · Post #781 » by **stilldropin20** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:14 pm

Post #782 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:48 pm

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Why, exactly, is the original host of TV's 'Love Connection' declaring war?

Why are we quoting Chuck Woolery in the Political Roundtable? :crazy:

Is it to illustrate how delusional and antagonistic things have become in the GOP of late?

Post #783 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm

Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager. :dontknow:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein refers letter about Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh to federal authorities

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

Feinstein's announcement followed a report Wednesday night in the investigative news outlet The Intercept that first disclosed the existence of the letter. According to the outlet, the letter is rumored to include details about an incident involving Kavanaugh that took place during his time at Georgetown Preparatory School in Maryland.

The woman who is the subject of the letter is reportedly represented by Debra Katz, a whistleblower attorney who has been described as "Washington's top attorney for women who want to fight back" in a profile in the magazine The Washingtonian.

Katz represented one of the women who accused former New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of physical abuse before he was forced to resign earlier this year.

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Wizardspride · Post #784 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:58 pm

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TGW · Post #785 » by **TGW** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:06 pm

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Wizardspride · Post #786 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:31 pm

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I_Like_Dirt · Post #787 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:37 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

I mean, ideally there would be consequences when you were a teenager. If there weren't significant consequences back then? Do you get to escape justice? To be honest, I'm a little curious about all this because most of the stuff I can think of would be State authority and well past the statute of limitations. Did he pay someone off to remain silent on the issue? I'm not exactly thrilled about this turn of events for any number of reasons, but... here we go again... :-?

Pointgod · Post #788 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:21 pm

TGW wrote:

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Leave it to Glenn Grunwald to stay focused on what really matters when your country is falling apart, attacking Democrats :roll:

Not that it matters but Nixon is going to get stomped considering Cuomo is ahead around 40 points. Which is a shame because Cuomo is a corrupt scumbag.

Pointgod · Post #789 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:24 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein refers letter about Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh to federal authorities

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

Feinstein's announcement followed a report Wednesday night in the investigative news outlet The Intercept that first disclosed the existence of the letter. According to the outlet, the letter is rumored to include details about an incident involving Kavanaugh that took place during his time at Georgetown Preparatory School in Maryland.

The woman who is the subject of the letter is reportedly represented by Debra Katz, a whistleblower attorney who has been described as "Washington's top attorney for women who want to fight back" in a profile in the magazine The Washingtonian.

Katz represented one of the women who accused former New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of physical abuse before he was forced to resign earlier this year.
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Counterpoint it's Brett Kavanaugh so who gives a ****.

dckingsfan · Post #790 » by **dckingsfan** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:35 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein refers letter about Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh to federal authorities

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

The top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dianne Feinstein of California, said Thursday that she has referred a letter concerning Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh to federal authorities.

Feinstein's announcement followed a report Wednesday night in the investigative news outlet The Intercept that first disclosed the existence of the letter. According to the outlet, the letter is rumored to include details about an incident involving Kavanaugh that took place during his time at Georgetown Preparatory School in Maryland.

The woman who is the subject of the letter is reportedly represented by Debra Katz, a whistleblower attorney who has been described as "Washington's top attorney for women who want to fight back" in a profile in the magazine The Washingtonian.

Katz represented one of the women who accused former New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman of physical abuse before he was forced to resign earlier this year.
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Counterpoint it's Brett Kavanaugh so who gives a ****.

gtn130 · Post #791 » by **gtn130** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:41 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

CNBC

Counterpoint it's Brett Kavanaugh so who gives a ****.

Merrick Garland

Post #792 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:30 am

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear job...

Prep school? Geez. God forbid I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

I mean, ideally there would be consequences when you were a teenager.

If there weren't significant consequences back then? Do you get to escape justice?

I understand where YOU are coming from. But it's difficult to imagine anything this guy did as an idiot 18 year old suddenly requiring a federal investigation 35 years later.

Spoiler:

This certainly feels like Dems attempting to weaponize the Justice Dept to take down a Republican nominee. Reminiscent of that stupid Nunes memo that was too important for other Senators to see but contains earthshaking revelations that shake the Senate down to its core...

I'll reserve final judgment for when this ultimately gets revealed to the public. But my guess -- it's just more political posturing.

Relevant quote: "Throughout 25 years of public service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has thoroughly and repeatedly vetted Judge Kavanaugh, dating back to 1993, for some of the most highly sensitive roles." --White House spokesperson Kerri Kupec
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verbal8 · Post #793 » by **verbal8** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:36 pm

This most likely applies to Kavanaugh's background, rather than criminal liability.

I think Kavanaugh working for Kozinski makes this potentially relevant. I think this would cast tons of doubt on his explanation of the situation even if there were 25 years between the incidents.

Also any attempts at payoffs/intimidation would make it highly relevant.

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Smells like a smear jobs...

Prep school? Geez. God forbin I start losing out on jobs because of stupid things I did as a teenager.

I mean, ideally there would be consequences when you were a teenager. If there weren't significant consequences back then? Do you get to escape justice? To be honest, I'm a little curious about all this because most of the stuff I can think of would be State authority and well past the statute of limitations. Did he pay someone off to remain silent on the issue? I'm not exactly thrilled about this turn of events for any number of reasons, but... here we go again...

Post #794 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:39 pm

^I...guess.

I'm just reticent to lend too much credence to sins committed 3 decades ago as a minor.

It'd have to be something really serious.

NOTE: I've gone through the background checks to get multiple security clearances during my military years. They want to ensure the individual isn't prone to blackmail.

It's real hard to believe he made it this far with no one coming across any HS incidents and deeming them not worthy of concern.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #795 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I understand where YOU are coming from. But it's difficult to imagine anything this guy did as an idiot 18 year old suddenly requiring a federal investigation 35 years later.

Spoiler:
Oh, no!. Brett got drunk in 1981 and touched a girl's butt Junior year of HS.

The girl slapped the **** out of him immediately and went on with her life. But let's get the Justice Department to investigate this earth shattering allegation decades later.

This certainly feels like Dems attempting to weaponize the Justice Dept to take down a Republican nominee. Reminiscent of that stupid Nunes memo that was too important for other Senators to see but contains earthshaking revelations that shake the Senate down to its core...

I'll reserve final judgment for when this ultimately gets revealed to the public. But my guess -- it's just more political posturing.

Relevant quote: "Throughout 25 years of public service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has thoroughly and repeatedly vetted Judge Kavanaugh, dating back to 1993, for some of the most highly sensitive roles." --White House spokesperson Kerri Kupec
NBC News

I agree with you. I'm legitimately curious what could actually require federal investigation here. That said, I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that he got drunk and touched a girl's butt and she defended herself, either. As for the FBI vetting, like I said, it's really tough to imagine how this would even become federal in the first place. If he paid someone off, maybe? And that would also explain why the FBI didn't catch it if nobody came forward. Or this could be a lot of hot air. But let's be real here, unlike many other cases where an allegation like this sticks for life, it isn't going to stop him from getting this job, and it's a lifetime appointment, and the political spectrum he represents isn't going to care, and the political spectrum that will at least pretend to care was going to hate him regardless. In this circumstance, if it's serious or not, the outcome is pretty much set in stone at this point. So in that respect, I hope your right and it isn't serious, because if it is and there is actually a legitimate reason for a federal investigation, it's a depressing thought.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a high degree of political posturing by the Dems and/or political activism by certain individuals, but even if it is, that doesn't make it mutually exclusive from something more serious. And beyond that, we've seen amongst many Republican supporters that sex allegations tend to matter more than other things that should possibly matter even more (and that's saying something), so if it's (likely) political posturing, it's also basically pandering to a section of the public who have made it clear that they don't like the Dems but will respond on occasion to this kind of thing. And that's without getting into the whole other side discussion I think we both agree on the major points about.

dckingsfan · Post #796 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:27 pm

I think that gtn's point is it is okay to weaponize anything at this point. It has gone far enough now that both sides have no limits.

Trump rarely tells the truth - why should the Ds at this point?

gtn130 · Post #797 » by **gtn130** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:37 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I think that gtn's point is it is okay to weaponize anything at this point. It has gone far enough now that both sides have no limits.

Trump rarely tells the truth - why should the Ds at this point?

Not quite. My point is that if only the Dems play by the rules, only Republicans get to appoint judges...

dckingsfan · Post #798 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:43 pm

gtn130 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I think that gtn's point is it is okay to weaponize anything at this point. It has gone far enough now that both sides have no limits.

Trump rarely tells the truth - why should the Ds at this point?

Not quite. My point is that if only the Dems play by the rules, only Republicans get to appoint judges...

Yep - telling the truth is playing by the rules

Post #799 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:04 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I think that gtn's point is it is okay to weaponize anything at this point. It has gone far enough now that both sides have no limits.

Trump rarely tells the truth - why should the Ds at this point?

As an independent, this is the most disturbing statement I've ever heard on this board. :nonono:

If this is how 'the two sides' are going to play...we need more sides.

I could never fully align myself with either party.

gtn130 · Post #800 » by **gtn130** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:13 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I think that gtn's point is it is okay to weaponize anything at this point. It has gone far enough now that both sides have no limits.

Trump rarely tells the truth - why should the Ds at this point?

As an independent, this is the most disturbing statement I've ever heard on this board.

If this is how 'the two sides' are going to play...we need more sides.

I could never fully align myself with either party.

The alternative is Republicans win all the elections and appoint all the judges because the Dems weren't willing to break rules and norms and they were.