Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part III

[rockymac52]

Leandro Barbosa, anyone? The biggest knock on him is his defense, but if he played alongside Wall, it's plausible that we could hide his ineptitude by having Barbosa guard the opposing PG and Wall take the SG. He'd also add a deadly long range threat that we've desperately needed. At this point in free agency, it's pretty clear that he wouldn't cost much either. We might be able to get him for the vet minimum even. I'd happily throw $2-3 million towards Barbosa.

No to Barbosa. Dude plays so reckless, and his jumper his streaky at best.

I mean, he's a career 39% shooter from 3...
Not to mention he'd be replacing Jordan Crawford (addition by subtraction, if you ask me).

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Any chance Livingston will be let go? If so, I'd grab him and cut Mack.

Since they didn't bring back Mason, I like the idea of Livingston coming back. I have been a fan of considering a Livingston return.

Mack is a dead end prospect. Maybe in a few years he can show something better as a back up PG but right now he is better suited to play off the ball. He isn't good at initiating the offense. At his size, speed and shooting skills, I just don't get the felling like he adds all that much.

Just cut him and move on. He was only a 2nd round pick. He served his purpose. He was a warm body and good locker room dude while they did the heavy armed tank for one more year. We got Beal. Mission accomplish. Time to move on

I would feel much better about Wall, Livingston and Price then Wall, Mack and Price.

I actually think it would do a lot for the team to add him.

IF Livingston is let go I'd agree picking him up & waiving Mack would be worth looking into.

Any who is good with the cap numbers, are the Wizards in a position to sign Pietrus & Harrellson, as well as the Livingston/Mack swap?

Josh Childress is still out there also, but I'd prefer Pietrus as a vet wing, and I do like Harrellson also.

On a side note, it's weird reading people's twitters its such a strange thing. JChill doesn't seem too concerned about signing with someone. He did however drive to the store and forgot his wallet, he farted in an elevator, and I think he might want to be a fireman.
https://twitter.com/jchillin

[rockymac52]

I would love to get Childress. Unfortunately, because we are now slightly over the salary cap, we can only sign him for the veteran's minimum. I can't believe he isn't getting more interest. It looks like if he ends up signing with someone, it's most likely going to be for the vet minimum, or damn near close to it. I don't know why we wouldn't at least throw in an offer. Not sure we'd be on top of his list, but who knows?

[Ruzious]

I would love to get Childress. Unfortunately, because we are now slightly over the salary cap, we can only sign him for the veteran's minimum. I can't believe he isn't getting more interest. It looks like if he ends up signing with someone, it's most likely going to be for the vet minimum, or damn near close to it. I don't know why we wouldn't at least throw in an offer. Not sure we'd be on top of his list, but who knows?

I'm guessing you're correct - in that the Wiz can't use the MLE - since they were under the cap before the Okariza trade - and you can't use cap room and the MLE in the same season. But can someone more knowledgable chime in?

[rockymac52]

I would love to get Childress. Unfortunately, because we are now slightly over the salary cap, we can only sign him for the veteran's minimum. I can't believe he isn't getting more interest. It looks like if he ends up signing with someone, it's most likely going to be for the vet minimum, or damn near close to it. I don't know why we wouldn't at least throw in an offer. Not sure we'd be on top of his list, but who knows?

I'm guessing you're correct - in that the Wiz can't use the MLE - since they were under the cap before the Okariza trade - and you can't use cap room and the MLE in the same season. But can someone more knowledgable chime in?

Well, the reason we can only use the vet minimum is because Childress was amnestied, and teams that are over the salary cap are only allowed to offer vet minimum deals to players that were amnestied.

[Nivek]

Wizards technically haven't been under the salary cap. Because of cap holds, etc. they've technically been over the cap throughout the offseason.

[closg00]

A tissue for CCJ, Mo Almond signs overseas.
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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

A tissue for CCJ, Mo Almond signs overseas.
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Aw nuts, there goes the perfect season!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Hopefully, Mo has an out clause where he can come back to the D-League for another call up.

I think Almond is wise to continue his career for as much as he can get for as long as he can get it.

[fishercob]

Why wouldn't we look at Josh Harrelson if we were interested in Anthony Tolliver? Isn't Harrelson just a better version?

[DCZards]

Why wouldn't we look at Josh Harrelson if we were interested in Anthony Tolliver? Isn't Harrelson just a better version?

I believe they were interested in Tolliver because of his ability to knock down the long range shot, including threes. Harrelson is an inside player with very little range on his outside shot. So they are a two very different types of players.

[fishercob]

Why wouldn't we look at Josh Harrelson if we were interested in Anthony Tolliver? Isn't Harrelson just a better version?

I believe they were interested in Tolliver because of his ability to knock down the long range shot, including threes. Harrelson is an inside player with very little range on his outside shot. So they are a two very different types of players.

I don't think that's right, DCZ. Harrelson is a poor man's Ryan Anderson. He shot 34% from 3 last year as a rookie -- better than all but one of Tolliver's seasons. Not to mention better than every returning Wizard other than Martin and Singleton.

Harrelson also rebounds at a much higher rate than Tolliver.

[verbal8]

Harrelson also rebounds at a much higher rate than Tolliver.

But he never made fun of LeBron in a youtube video

[Halcyon]

I was pretty surprised to learn that Harrelson shot 3's in the NBA fairly well, considering he had 29 total attempts in college. I'd definitely take a look at him, at least to stash and maybe develop?

[DCZards]

I don't think that's right, DCZ. Harrelson is a poor man's Ryan Anderson. He shot 34% from 3 last year as a rookie -- better than all but one of Tolliver's seasons. Not to mention better than every returning Wizard other than Martin and Singleton.

Harrelson also rebounds at a much higher rate than Tolliver.

My bad. You are right. I didn't realize Harrelson took that many 3 pt. shots last season. However, I still don't think he's the guy you want if you're looking for a long-range shooter. I'd take him for his toughness and rebounding, though.

[closg00]

Surprised, didn't know about Harrelson's decent 3-point shooting, that makes him even more attractive. Cut Mack and sign this guy to a small deal.

[Ruzious]

Someone will/should sign Harrellson soon. Drew Gordon, one of CCJ's guys, went undrafted and just signed with a Serbian team. I'd follow his progress (without going to Serbia) - as he seems just like a young James Singleton. Europe should be good for him - so he can focus on developing his jump shot and getting his body in better shape. Over 14 rebounds per 40 minutes in his 2 seasons at New Mexico and solid length and athleticism on a 6'9 240 lb frame, improved foul shooting every year - up to 75%.

[closg00]

Derrick Beyers released by the Spurs.

[DMVleGeND]

Instead of going after terrible players like Childress, Scalabrine, and Tolliver, why don't we go after a relatively young, talented guy like Terrence Williams? I haven't seen him play much, but I saw him in 2010 SL, and he's very talented. He's a great athlete, and showed some point foward skills and can pass w/ flair. Shot still needed work though. On defense, he has prototype size and athleticism. Would be better than signing bad players that have peaked and are only being considered because they're "vets."

[rockymac52]

Terrence Williams is a guy the Wizards would have looked at 2 years ago. There's a reason we won't be now. And I'm very happy with that.