Wizards vs Dallas 1/1/13 6PM

[nate33]

Beal haters still consider Beal as a bust?

I'm not a Beal hater, but I've been pretty hard on Beal lately.

I don't consider today's game to be in the slightest bit significant. Yes, Beal finally hit a few shots, but good grief, he has only broken 50% from the floor once all season; and that was 22 games ago!

Beal finally hit a few open 3's, the kind of thing that Cartier Martin has done all year. I'm supposed to be impressed? Now, if Beal does this every night and shoots something like 38-40% from 3-point range from here on out, I'll change my tune. But one game does not a trend make.

Frankly, the most impressive thing that Beal did all night was that step-back pump-fake that drew the foul on O.J. Mayo late in the 4th. That was a legit NBA move and it was nice to see.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Beal is 7-16 FG, 4-7 3PT with 21 points. (Carter has 21 points, Mayo 15 points)

Okafor has 14 points, 11 rebounds and is +8 in 25 minutes. He's definitely playing better.

This is a good loss.

Actually it is a senseless pointless coaching lose.

Your boy Mack is pretty much what he was when he left. He can't defend. He slows down the offense by resetting at every chance he gets. He does some things good but not enough to over come the bad.

This team is just going to continue to suck until the get Wall back because Randy won't use Crawford at PG instead of Mack. Hell, even AJ Price would help but he isn't do back for at least a couple weeks.

They played well in the first half when Temple was at PG. Everytime they turned to Mack, they sucked. Called it before it even happened. Temple ended +6 Mack was - 15 Collison was torching him all night.

Kevin S was a no show on the boards. 2 in 25 minutes and Nene couldn't cover for him 5 rebounds in 25 minutes. If that happens they are going to lose. Crawford started off really hot but he only got 25 min and scored 9 pts on 4-9 shooting. Combine those things together and they will lose every time.

So unless Randy wakes up ( not holding my breath ) its going to be 3 more weeks of suck unless Temple can stay out of foul trouble and log 40 minutes a night.

"My boy" Mack had a better game than Nene.

He's not the one who stopped rebounding. He's not the one who got in foul trouble at a crucial part of the third quarter.

hands, how did you bring the New Year in? I was down before Christmas and I had to find some reasons to be cheerful. I've been seeing that glass half full in real life. Loving the kids, doing great stuff, like night and day.

Okay, Crawford at PG is what you want to see. Temple is better than Mack at PG. Okay. hands, Shelvin will be out of a job when Wall comes back. IF Wall comes back.

The bottom line is right now this team is not going anywhere. The more losses they suffer the greater chance they get a choice lottery pick. This season is busted. However, Okafor and Crawford are playing up their trade stock. Vesely is playing without being booed at home. Beal could be getting more confident or learning as he goes. Wall could be getting healthy.

Today, the LEADER had an off night. If Nene balled in the third and if Temple stayed out of foul trouble, and if Randy coached better they could have won. Okay. I get it hands.

You hate Mack's game. Fine. But don't blame this loss on Shelvin Mack.

[kirubel94]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

[MikeTheKid]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

Lee, Melo and Kris Joseph for Okafor+Filler

[hands11]

Unfortunately, as a mod, I can't put people on ignore.

My sympathies.

Thankfully I don't have such a problem.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

For some reason I don't think hes coming back by the end of this month, I think hes going to end up getting surgery

+1

If he does come back I believe it won't be for long.

[Nivek]

In trades, salaries have to fit within the strictures of the collective bargaining agreement. There isn't a feasible trade of Okafor to Boston because he makes so much money. You can noodle trades out on the RealGM Trade Checker or the ESPN Trade Machine. If you want to trade Okafor to Boston, you're probably going to need a 3rd team to get involved.

[kirubel94]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

Lee, Melo and Kris Joseph for Okafor+Filler

Pass, i would rather have Avery Bradley and their 1st rounder.

[hands11]

Beal haters still consider Beal as a bust?

I'm not a Beal hater, but I've been pretty hard on Beal lately.

I don't consider today's game to be in the slightest bit significant. Yes, Beal finally hit a few shots, but good grief, he has only broken 50% from the floor once all season; and that was 22 games ago!

Beal finally hit a few open 3's, the kind of thing that Cartier Martin has done all year. I'm supposed to be impressed? Now, if Beal does this every night and shoots something like 38-40% from 3-point range from here on out, I'll change my tune. But one game does not a trend make.

Frankly, the most impressive thing that Beal did all night was that step-back pump-fake that drew the foul on O.J. Mayo late in the 4th. That was a legit NBA move and it was nice to see.

Which was exactly what I said, but I guess when I said it, I was sounding to smart.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

It could become a matter of luxury tax concerns and finding a way to get a deal done.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

Lee, Melo and Kris Joseph for Okafor+Filler

if the Wizards did this, I would feel better about possibly trading Seraphin to the Kings in a Boogie Cousins deal.

[TheBigThree]

Encouraging game from Bradley, but I'm not getting too excited. Still was invisible on the floor for second and third quarters. Needs to find consistency and it starts with his mid-range game.

This whole team, maybe sans JC, even if he's guilty of it sometimes, needs to figure out ways to get to the basket when their shot isn't falling. Easier said than done, obviously, but they just can't find ways to stop the bleeding at key times in the game when they go cold.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

Lee, Melo and Kris Joseph for Okafor+Filler

Pass, i would rather have Avery Bradley and their 1st rounder.

I commented on the trade previously without even thinking the deal fails salary-wise.

The first trade I could get to work in the trade checker was Jason Terry, Courtney Lee, Avery Bradley, and Jason Collins for Okafor. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ap76lr3

I don't see any way a trade with Boston gets done without a third team involved.

[hands11]

I don't blame Mack. I actually think he is a nice kid. Its nothing against him personally.

Am I frustrated. Yeep. Very. Specially when they started so well.

Do I think putting Crawford at PG when Temple went out with 4 fouls would have given them a better chance to win. Yeep. I know he is coming off a missed game with an ankle but he was out there, why not put him at PG.

But no, its not Macks fault. He is what he is. I had hoped he made more improvements while in the DL but ultimately its his lack of quickness that is hurting him. I definitely blame Randy, Nene and Kevin way more then I do Mack. Mack is playing as well as he is physically able to play. Nene is still recovering from injury and trying to get in shape but I expect more then 5 rebounds in 25 minutes. Kevin. He has zero excuse. 2 rebounds in 25 minutes is a complete failure. I am way more frustrated with him. Hell, Ves had 4 rebounds in 16 minutes. Martin has 4 in 10 minutes. How does Kevin only get 2 in 25 ? How ?

But I'm over it now. Just initial post game frustration venting. It is what it is. I will just have to hope Temple does a better job of staying out of foul trouble and that Wall continues to heal up and make progress. They can put Mack out there sometimes but you can't play him against a quick PG. He just get torched.

Appreciate the attempt to get me to chill. Hope you had a excellent Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

PERSPECTIVE

Is Bradley Beal as bad as Crawford was last season?

Has Jordan improved his rebounding, passing, and overall game at 23 years of age?

Is it POSSIBLE that Beal at 19 can get better by the time he's 21 or so?

Beal is three years YOUNGER than John Wall, who hasn't proved anything yet.

[hands11]

For some reason I don't think hes coming back by the end of this month, I think hes going to end up getting surgery

Just don't see that happening from the news that has been release and the interviews I see with him.

Jan 21st or there about he will be on the floor. Thats what it looks like right now and unless we hear of a set back, I see no reason to think that would change.

[hands11]

For some reason I don't think hes coming back by the end of this month, I think hes going to end up getting surgery

+1

If he does come back I believe it won't be for long.

I thought you were doing glass half full CCJ.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

In trades, salaries have to fit within the strictures of the collective bargaining agreement. There isn't a feasible trade of Okafor to Boston because he makes so much money. You can noodle trades out on the RealGM Trade Checker or the ESPN Trade Machine. If you want to trade Okafor to Boston, you're probably going to need a 3rd team to get involved.

Now I read your post completely.

Nivek, in a triage ward clinicians often make the seemingly healthy folks wait. (Spent about 4 hours in ER thinking I couldn't breathe due to pneumonia, waiting for a doctor. I must have looked very healthy, thus they kept me waiting. Or, perhaps I looked expendable. ) Your post seemed okay.

[MikeTheKid]

After the seeing how the Wizards played in the first half i didn't think the Mavs had a chance in this game, turns out i was wrong. Beal sure enough played well on his bobble-head night, he looks like he is starting to get it going. Okafor is playing really well, i think the Celtics are looking for a Center, wouldn't mind dealing him for a 1st rounder. The rest of the team played terrible.

Lee, Melo and Kris Joseph for Okafor+Filler

Pass, i would rather have Avery Bradley and their 1st rounder.

Being that theres no way in hell they'll give us Bradley or Sully id settle with Melo and Lee and I was a fan of Joseph at Syracuse, kinda underrated

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

For some reason I don't think hes coming back by the end of this month, I think hes going to end up getting surgery

+1

If he does come back I believe it won't be for long.

I thought you were doing glass half full CCJ.

Got to keep it real. I will be very pleasantly surprised if John comes back and stays back because I think the window for him having swelling seems a bit long for a 22-year old.

I'm no doctor, but my hunch is Wall will end up having surgery. I don't see it as being pessimistic. He had trouble with the knee when Flip was here. Honestly, this is the point where decisions on his future should be well-thought.

hands, the pessimist would say he's going to blow that knee out and be no good. I think he might experience pain or swelling and end up getting the matter taken care of surgically.

To me, this season is lost. John coming back makes the tank worse. It risks making it worse, if' he's not totally healed. I say why rush to get back?

My comment is just what I think--he's going to need surgery. Hope I'm wrong.