Bradley Beal - Part II
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^^^^yeah, most of us questioned Beal's athleticism coming out of college. But last night I had the same reaction as you Nate when I saw that throw down...there's no doubting that kid's athleticism now. I loved watching the video and the variety of ways in which Dub B can score...and effortlessly so. Kid is impressive.
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DCZards wrote:^^^^yeah, most of us questioned Beal's athleticism coming out of college. But last night I had the same reaction as you Nate when I saw that throw down...there's no doubting that kid's athleticism now. I loved watching the video and the variety of ways in which Dub B can score...and effortlessly so. Kid is impressive.
Questioned his athleticism? I can't imagine why....
He is going to have an outstanding NBA career. A terrific young player who just turned 20 !!
But... I must agree that Drummond is looking like the absolute monster player out of the 2012 draft -- likely the best player of them all. Beal was still the right pick.
(Unless you wanted to use my radical trade-down strategy which in the mists of my memory yielded us Drummond along w/ every other good player on down the list! Possible my memory is a little off, you never know....)
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But... I must agree that Drummond is looking like the absolute monster player out of the 2012 draft -- likely the best player of them all. Beal was still the right pick.
Prior to the 2012 draft I said Drummond could turn out to be the best player in it...but Davis is super versatile and is putting up monster numbers. He looks to me like the rightful top pick from that draft.
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I didn't see any reason before the draft to question Beal's athleticism. Drummond was an interesting player. Not very impressive in college, but REALLY gets the job done in the NBA. I agree with DCZards that Davis is going to be the best of that draft class.
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DCZards wrote:payitforward wrote:
But... I must agree that Drummond is looking like the absolute monster player out of the 2012 draft -- likely the best player of them all. Beal was still the right pick.
Prior to the 2012 draft I said Drummond could turn out to be the best player in it...but Davis is super versatile and is putting up monster numbers. He looks to me like the rightful top pick from that draft.
Gimme all 3 of those guys, please -- Davis, Beal, and Drummond! In fact, throw in MK-G. Those are some good players!
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I think Drummond will blossom a little later then Beal and Davis. Davis is tearing it up right now and is unquestionably to me, a top 5 PF. Drummond can be a monster but like with Beal, there is a consistency factor. That and his FTs are abysmal. He can work on it though 
Good to see Beal breaking out though. The next step for him is obviously continuously slashing, but he gets absolutely no love from the refs unless he is hitting the floor. I hope that isn't a reason why he would hesitate from driving.

Good to see Beal breaking out though. The next step for him is obviously continuously slashing, but he gets absolutely no love from the refs unless he is hitting the floor. I hope that isn't a reason why he would hesitate from driving.
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What do you suppose the over under ought to be on how long before BB sets
a new career high with his first 30+ pt game?
a new career high with his first 30+ pt game?
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DCZards wrote:payitforward wrote:
But... I must agree that Drummond is looking like the absolute monster player out of the 2012 draft -- likely the best player of them all. Beal was still the right pick.
Prior to the 2012 draft I said Drummond could turn out to be the best player in it...but Davis is super versatile and is putting up monster numbers. He looks to me like the rightful top pick from that draft.
Agreed, Davis is by far the best prospect in that draft without question.
To go further, I believe Davis is the best prospect since Lebron James. He has perennial MVP/DPOY-caliber potential.
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DCZards wrote:payitforward wrote:
But... I must agree that Drummond is looking like the absolute monster player out of the 2012 draft -- likely the best player of them all. Beal was still the right pick.
Prior to the 2012 draft I said Drummond could turn out to be the best player in it...but Davis is super versatile and is putting up monster numbers. He looks to me like the rightful top pick from that draft.
Davis was the clear cut best prospect in that draft IMO. I've never really doubted he'd end up being the best player in the class, even if Drummond realizes his potential. I think Davis was the best prospect since Durant. If anything, he's beaten my expectations so far.
Lillard is probably still #2 from that class. He's a beast, likely the best offensive player from the class. But he's 23 years old so I still question his upside compared to the guys who are 20.
Then I think Beal is #3. Maybe Drummond #4 and MKG #5 or you could probably swap them and be alright. Barnes is probably #6. John Henson factors in there somewhere.
A lot of All Stars are going to come out of that class. It was a very good year.
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Nivek wrote:I didn't see any reason before the draft to question Beal's athleticism. Drummond was an interesting player. Not very impressive in college, but REALLY gets the job done in the NBA. I agree with DCZards that Davis is going to be the best of that draft class.
Davis is probably 2-3 years away from MVP consideration IMO. By far, he's the best. Drummond is a beast, too. A player from this year's draft, Steven Adams, however, got the better of Drummond the other day.
Adams is going to be really good for OKC moving forward. He strikes me as a Noah-tyoe C who helps teams win with rebounding, defense, and sneaky offense. Adams is better in the NBA than college. He's also plays with a chip. He's already had Robinson and Carter draw flagrant fouls for retaliating. I watched Adams throw a backupPF/C for the Pistons, Datome, out of the lane. Usually only veteran big men do that. Adams is dirty in a good way IMO.
As for Beal, I'm happy with him even if Drummond might become a more dominating player. I think Beal has a shot of being very good for a very long time. I see no reason he can't have a Joe Dumars kind of career. I also think Beal's threes are going to be good for years and years to come. Bradley Beal can be a very special NBA player.
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Adams had a good rating in YODA. I had him 6th overall, in a virtual tie with Porter and McLemore for 4th.
On a per minute basis, Davis was All-NBA caliber LAST season. He's better this year. Detroit should play Drummond lots of minutes. And get him a FT coach. Paging Dave Hopla...
On a per minute basis, Davis was All-NBA caliber LAST season. He's better this year. Detroit should play Drummond lots of minutes. And get him a FT coach. Paging Dave Hopla...
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All I know about Porter is I'd still select him over Bennett. Even seeing the worst of Otto Porter in summer league, I've got to think he's going to be a better player than Anthony Bennett.
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nate33 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNxXe24o_SA[/youtube]
I love the dunk at 1:45. It really took me by surprise that he decided to throw it down on Pierce. Beal has sneaky athleticism.
I liked the opportunistic baseline drive at :41.
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34 points and 6 boards on the road against OKC.
He shot 13-23 including 6-8 from 3-pt range. 2-2 from the line. Only 1 turnover.
He shot 13-23 including 6-8 from 3-pt range. 2-2 from the line. Only 1 turnover.
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dobrojim wrote:What do you suppose the over under ought to be on how long before BB sets
a new career high with his first 30+ pt game?
damn... should of took the under.
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Beal is better than Harden was at the same age.
I think he ends up being better than Lillard too.
The kid makes scoring 20+ points look incredibly easy.
I think he ends up being better than Lillard too.
The kid makes scoring 20+ points look incredibly easy.
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stevemcqueen1 wrote:Beal is better than Harden was at the same age.
I think he ends up being better than Lillard too.
The kid makes scoring 20+ points look incredibly easy.
Harden is a better SG right now, but I wouldn't be surprised if Beal becomes a better 2 way SG in the next 2 years then Harden. Beal still has improving to do defensively, but he is considerably better then Harden. But yeah, Beal is better at this age then Harden was. Which is frightening.
Wall just needs to come back to his season norms on shooting last season and we're set.

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^ when people say "better" that includes defense and offense, you don't have to say "better 2 way player". For some reason people always say that.