The Official Eric Maynor Shrine

[TGW]

Maynor is posting a +/- rating of -5.0 this year. Wall has a +10.

So no, he does not improve anything, and when he's on the court the Wizards generally stink. Also, he has not made Webster and Harrington better because they are stinking up the court too.

[AFM]

Maynor is posting a +/- rating of -5.0 this year. Wall has a +10.

So no, he does not improve anything, and when he's on the court the Wizards generally stink. Also, he has not made Webster and Harrington better because they are stinking up the court too.

To be fair to Maynor, doesn't a +/- greatly depend on who you're on the court with?
Maynor plays with the 2nd unit aka the worst bench in the NBA.

[jivelikenice]

But how much of them being the worst bench is on him? Everyone plays worse when he's on the floor. Wasn't he also supposed to be able to share the court with JW? LOL. What a horrible signing. He's just terrible and there's nothing to indicate his play will get any better. If we get a -5 from him per game we should be thrilled cause typically it looks like he's closer to a -10....

[TGW]

Maynor is posting a +/- rating of -5.0 this year. Wall has a +10.

So no, he does not improve anything, and when he's on the court the Wizards generally stink. Also, he has not made Webster and Harrington better because they are stinking up the court too.

To be fair to Maynor, doesn't a +/- greatly depend on who you're on the court with?
Maynor plays with the 2nd unit aka the worst bench in the NBA.

Wasn't it the original argument that he would make them better because he knows how to get easy shots for his teammates? I think that was the argument being made to defend the signing originally.

Either way, he's part of the problem. I tend to believe if he started and Wall came off the bench, it would be the same scenario.

[mhd]

Temple is way better than Maynor is. Just play Temple as the backup PG. At least he's an NBA athlete and would improve the defense.

[AFM]

Maynor is posting a +/- rating of -5.0 this year. Wall has a +10.

So no, he does not improve anything, and when he's on the court the Wizards generally stink. Also, he has not made Webster and Harrington better because they are stinking up the court too.

To be fair to Maynor, doesn't a +/- greatly depend on who you're on the court with?
Maynor plays with the 2nd unit aka the worst bench in the NBA.

Wasn't it the original argument that he would make them better because he knows how to get easy shots for his teammates? I think that was the argument being made to defend the signing originally.

Either way, he's part of the problem. I tend to believe if he started and Wall came off the bench, it would be the same scenario.

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

[mhd]

To be fair to Maynor, doesn't a +/- greatly depend on who you're on the court with?
Maynor plays with the 2nd unit aka the worst bench in the NBA.

Wasn't it the original argument that he would make them better because he knows how to get easy shots for his teammates? I think that was the argument being made to defend the signing originally.

Either way, he's part of the problem. I tend to believe if he started and Wall came off the bench, it would be the same scenario.

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

AJ Price played with those same bums last year, and he's much better than Maynor is. Price at least has NBA quickness. Maynor is Derrick-Fisher slow out there.

[hands11]

To be fair to Maynor, doesn't a +/- greatly depend on who you're on the court with?
Maynor plays with the 2nd unit aka the worst bench in the NBA.

Wasn't it the original argument that he would make them better because he knows how to get easy shots for his teammates? I think that was the argument being made to defend the signing originally.

Either way, he's part of the problem. I tend to believe if he started and Wall came off the bench, it would be the same scenario.

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

Who is this Singleton person I keep seeing people mention ? I have not see him in the games with Maynor. Nor have I seen Ves until last game.

The "Bench" people keep talking about is Maynor, Webster and AH along with some starters. Sometime Kevin in the past.

Maynor looks like he would have been a quality end of the bench vet PG for vet min. So we over paid by about 1M. His defense looks pretty bad. He got smoked a few time by SA and the game before. He really doesn't seem to be that good of a shooter. Kind of looks like an older thinner version of Mack. Good for a 3rd PG. Kind of PG coach. Wait. I thought that is what Sam was for.

Here is what they had to choose from. The tiny URL for your query is: http://bkref.com/tiny/K6j23
IDK. Yeah his D sucks but otherwise he match up well against that list except for against that Crawford fella.

Bring in the Temple. I saw him flying around the floor last night when he finally got in. Temple had some big games last year. And you know he will play D.

[pancakes3]

I think all the proof you need as to if/how Maynor is suck can be found in comparing Webster last season playing with wall compared to Webster this season playing with Maynor.

[hands11]

His defense has been pretty awful, but he has been better then the other player they had to choose from, short of Crawford.

Hopefully Randy lets Temple play the primary back up role. That will upgrade the defense at a min. And Temple is not suck. He actually had some really good games last year.

Using Temple should help the guard rotation because he even knows how to play next to Wall where they function well as a two guard defensive combination. And Temple is a system player who will run the offense Randy wants. And he is faster up and down the court. And he is hungry.

[Nivek]

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

While I don't disagree about anyone being able to make that trio better, in Maynor's 95 minutes he has played a total of zero minutes with Singleton, and 9 minutes with Vesely.

Seraphin and Maynor have 49 minutes together -- 4th most of pairs with Maynor. Here's the top 5:

1. Webster -- 86 min
2. Harrington -- 71
3. Beal -- 53
4. Seraphin -- 49
5. Ariza -- 46

After that, there's a significant drop to Gortat at 28.

The guys who have struggled most with Maynor on the floor (in terms of ortg) have been Beal, Nene and...umm...Maynor.

[Hidden Eye]

Wasn't it the original argument that he would make them better because he knows how to get easy shots for his teammates? I think that was the argument being made to defend the signing originally.

Either way, he's part of the problem. I tend to believe if he started and Wall came off the bench, it would be the same scenario.

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

AJ Price played with those same bums last year, and he's much better than Maynor is. Price at least has NBA quickness. Maynor is Derrick-Fisher slow out there.

I agree with you Price would be better but he shot the ball way too much, aside from that I would take him over Maynor.

[hands11]

I don't know. I didn't want to sign him. But I don't think anyone can make the likes of Vesely, Singleton, Seraphin, better.

While I don't disagree about anyone being able to make that trio better, in Maynor's 95 minutes he has played a total of zero minutes with Singleton, and 9 minutes with Vesely.

Seraphin and Maynor have 49 minutes together -- 4th most of pairs with Maynor. Here's the top 5:

1. Webster -- 86 min
2. Harrington -- 71
3. Beal -- 53
4. Seraphin -- 49
5. Ariza -- 46

After that, there's a significant drop to Gortat at 28.

The guys who have struggled most with Maynor on the floor (in terms of ortg) have been Beal, Nene and...umm...Maynor.

Looking over come gameflows, most of it not all of Manyor is with AH and whatever unit is was seemed to always end up in the negative. Seems pretty hard to design a good defensive team with those two on the floor together unless AH is a SF. If that was the case, I would rather have Webster or Trevor A on the floor in most situations.

Looking at some "limited stats", it seems to be AH that is the problem more then Maynor though.

Wall,John Beal,Bradley Webster,Martell Harrington,Al Gortat,Marcin (WAS) DRtg 141.5 -13.6
Wall,John Beal,Bradley Ariza,Trevor Harrington,Al Gortat,Marcin (WAS) DRtg 131.7 -16.9
Maynor,Eric Beal,Bradley Webster,Martell Harrington,Al Seraphin,Kevin - (WAS) 106.7 -13.5
Wall,John Webster,Martell Ariza,Trevor Harrington,Al Gortat,Marcin (WAS) 98.4 -25.8

Those first two line up are some of the worst in the league.. limited minutes. And its not like AH didn't have other players out there with him. I have seen Maynor abused on defense so I'm not excusing that as part of the problem, but with almost all Maynors minutes being played with AH, that could have something to do with his numbers being pulled down. Look how AH had affected much better line ups.

[mhd]

His defense has been pretty awful, but he has been better then the other player they had to choose from, short of Crawford.

Hopefully Randy lets Temple play the primary back up role. That will upgrade the defense at a min. And Temple is not suck. He actually had some really good games last year.

Using Temple should help the guard rotation because he even knows how to play next to Wall where they function well as a two guard defensive combination. And Temple is a system player who will run the offense Randy wants. And he is faster up and down the court. And he is hungry.

Huh, how is Maynor better than Price was? Price is getting DNP-CD with Minny, but he's much better than Maynor is. I do agree with you on Temple. At least he's an NBA athlete.

[tontoz]

Poll added.

@ the poll options. Not a fan of Maynor but i think the poll is slightly biased against him.

I just want to apologize to JWiz for my misguided criticism of his poll.

[JWizmentality]

Apology accepted.

[MikeTheKid]

Poll added.

@ the poll options. Not a fan of Maynor but i think the poll is slightly biased against him.

I just want to apologize to JWiz for my misguided criticism of his poll.

[rl25g]

Beno frickin Udrih

[JWizmentality]

Beno frickin Udrih

I want to cry. Not just little boo hoo sobbing either. I want to f*cking bawl.

[MikeTheKid]

Beno frickin Udrih

I want to cry. Not just little boo hoo sobbing either. I want to f*cking bawl.

Ill take Dellavadova or Karasev