John Wall is the best PG in the East right now

[TheKingOfVa360]

^WTF, evan turner nearly shot 37% from 3 pt land last season. He hit 159 of em. He's down this year but he's doing what he does best, mid range and slashing. I'm happy for him.

There are truly some beasts from that draft class now (at least if these early season returns are any indication).

Wall
George
Cousins
Turner
Monroe
Bledsoe
Hayward

Are all playing like they got paid, or should have gotten paid. The last 3 mentioned will get top dollar if they keep their production up. I am most surprised at Bledsoe. He's playing like a monster and winning games.

He made a whopping 0.7 3 pointers last season and had a 47.8 TS %. And most of those 3 pointers were open looks from defenses that treated him like a self check. he year before that he shot 22.4% from 3 point range. Turner's jumper still isn't great but it's inching towards average. This season he is shooting 11.1% from 3 point range (small sample size).


Yeah that draft class is looking better and better each day. With guys like Wall, George, and Cousins leading the way. I think all three will be all-stars this year. Turner, Monroe, Bledsoe, and Hayward are having good seasons also.

Ur right he ATTEMPTED 159 3's last season. Still shot it at a solid clip IMO. His TS% this season has been so far like 61 %. I don't think that is sustainable for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he finished around 54-56%. The thing is, I think he is still relatively "young" so it wouldn't surprised me if worked on his game and extended his range. There aren't many play-making SF's that can produce efficiently like he has so far, Turner still might have some value in this league. Unless he kept up his current averages I can't see him justifying being a number 2 overall selection...but he is looking like an NBA starter to me. So I give him props for that.

I agree with you 100 percent. He's a young guy and can add range to his shot for sure. His vision and ball handling is what makes him somewhat special. Yeah he might never be a NBA all-star but he looks like a solid starter. I'm still glad we drafted Wall over him.

[TheOUTLAW]

I think Beal is an all star this year and there is absolutely no way Washington has 2 unless they start play a lot better.

[B-easy]

I think Beal is an all star this year and there is absolutely no way Washington has 2 unless they start play a lot better.

PG's in the east aren't great at the moment.

[Dark Faze]

No way Beal makes it before Wall.

[nate33]

No way Beal makes it before Wall.

I think it's definitely possible.

The thing is, there are a bunch of solid PG's in the East including well-known names like Irving, Rose and DWill; not to mention up-and-comers like Teague and Carter-Williams. But what shooting guards are out there besides Wade? The best names on the list are guys like Aaron Afflalo and Evan Turner. As long as the Wizards are reasonably close to .500, and Beal averages 20+ points a game, who is going to beat him out?

Come to think of it, there's a real possibility that both Beal and Wall make it. I figure the fans will vote in Wade and Irving (or possibly Rose if he returns to form). After that, the coaches will decide the other 3 guards among the following players:

Derrick Rose
Derrick Williams
Joe Johnson
Jeff Teague
Michael Carter Williams
Evan Turner
Aaron Afflalo
John Wall
Bradley Beal

I think our guys might be in the top 3 on that list. There's also the potential that injury bumps at least one guy out of the running. Wade and Irving tend to get banged up. Finally, I think our guys will lead the competition in the "glory stats". Wall will be tops in the East in assists. Beal will probably be second or third among shooting guards in points per game. (Wade will beat him, but who else? Maybe Turner?)

[dobrojim]

FWIW, in spite of Wall's subpar game and failure to make the gamewinning shot,
statistically it appears to me he outplayed Westbrook holding him to 4-16 and
a low number of assists.

And yeah Nate, both Wall and Beal could conceivably make it. On merit,
they are arguably there right now. The team just has to win more.

[Higga]

We have the best backcourt in the East. Wall and Beal will both be All-Stars because the Wizards will be around the 5th-6th seed by the time January-February rolls around. Yep, I'm drinking the kool-aid. At least until Nene gets injured again.

[tontoz]

We have the best backcourt in the East. Wall and Beal will both be All-Stars because the Wizards will be around the 5th-6th seed by the time January-February rolls around. Yep, I'm drinking the KOOK-aid. At least until Nene gets injured again.

fyp

[Illmatic21]

According to RealGM, Eric Bledsoe is better than John Wall

[Nivek]

According to RealGM, Eric Bledsoe is better than John Wall

So far this season, "RealGM" is correct.

Bledsoe is shooting much better than Wall, getting to the line more frequently, getting more rebounds per minute, and posting the same numbers in steals and blocks. Wall is getting more assists and committing fewer turnovers, but that's not nearly enough to offset Bledsoe's HUGE advantage shooting the ball. Bledsoe's efg so far is .572 -- Wall's is .442.

If this kept up over a full season, the only logical conclusion would be that Bledsoe was better (unless, of course, Bledsoe was a sieve on defense and Wall was All-NBA).

[Jimmy Recard]

So much for the Kyrie vs Rose build-up. Turned out to be an anticlimax with Irving having a stinker, and Rose, while probably his best game of the season so far, again failed to shoot above 40%

Rose

16 pts, 8/21 FG
7 ast
3 reb

Irving

16 pts, 5/19 FG
4 ast
2 reb
3 to

[JonathanJoseph]

I'm pretty sure the existence of this thread is going to come back to haunt some people down the line. It's a ridiculous discussion.

[DaRealHibachi]

I'm pretty sure the existence of this thread is going to come back to haunt some people down the line. It's a ridiculous discussion.

Unless ofcourse, the thread was made at the time when he actually/arguably was the best in the east..

[Dat2U]

I'm pretty sure the existence of this thread is going to come back to haunt some people down the line. It's a ridiculous discussion.

Says the longtime Ernie supporter, until he turned his back on Arenas which raised your ire more that the thought of Wall's paycheck next year. I'm still waiting for Arenas to regain his old form by the way. How is he doing? Too bad every stupid thing you've said on here hasn't come back to haunt you though.

LOL at how your post was and1'd by Ernie's biggest supporter too.

[JonathanJoseph]

I'm pretty sure the existence of this thread is going to come back to haunt some people down the line. It's a ridiculous discussion.

Unless ofcourse, the thread was made at the time when he actually/arguably was the best in the east..

I think you missed my point.

[JonathanJoseph]

I'm pretty sure the existence of this thread is going to come back to haunt some people down the line. It's a ridiculous discussion.

Says the longtime Ernie supporter, until he turned his back on Arenas which raised your ire more that the thought of Wall's paycheck next year. I'm still waiting for Arenas to regain his old form by the way. How is he doing? Too bad every stupid thing you've said on here hasn't come back to haunt you though.

LOL at how your post was and1'd by Ernie's biggest supporter too.

LOL. Not sure what "stupid" things you mean besides not predicting the most significant fall-off due to an injury in recent NBA history.

Since I'm still the only one calling Wall a bust 2 years later, we'll have to see how that turns out.

[Nivek]

The hammering of Wall after last night's game seems odd to me. The Wizards struggled whenever he was on the bench. They were -2 with him on the floor in a game they lost by 13.

For the season, the Wizards have net POSITIVE efficiency differential (ortg - drtg) with Wall on the floor. When he's on the bench, they have a MASSIVE efficiency differential.

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STAT    w/Wall  wo/Wall
Ortg    107     87
Drtg    106     113
PytW    44      2


Wall isn't playing at an elite level, but he's FAR from The Problem this year. The team is decent when he's on the floor; they're a toxic dumpster fire when he's on the bench.

[nate33]

Code: Select all

STAT    w/Wall  wo/Wall
Ortg    107     87
Drtg    106     113
PytW    44      2


The Wizards bench would go 2-80 in an 82-game season.

[barelyawake]

A) That's because of Maynor (and Serphin etc).

B) Wall is, currently, our franchise player. Good isn't good enough. He needs to control himself and the team, rather than riding ups and downs. Less emotion. More thinking in the moment and planning two steps ahead a beat before the moment. Steady confidence and leadership.

[Dat2U]

Wall is much like Arenas in one way. He's a rhythm player capable of long hot streaks and significant cold streaks. And he's obviously a slow starter. His so-so start is not surprising to me at all. I'd expect him to play better as the year goes on. And that's not too uncommon with many vets to be honest.