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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#81 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:56 pm

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NatP4 wrote:You guys do realize that McCullough was a high upside big taken in the 1st round just like we would've drafted with that pick.

And we added a scorer and dumped Nicholson.

And it's lottery protected

McCullough, in his second season, could only manage to steal 72 total minutes of playing time on the worst team in the league. He's a bust.


I'd disagree. Guy tore his ACL in 2015, this is his first full season all the way back and healthy. Guy was seen as a boom or bust project who decided to leave school after having an injury shortened freshman year.

He sounds raw as hell, a definite project with a ton of tools, but maybe mental make up issues, and the ACL, and a need to learn.

Based on just my read up from draftexpress, and the ACL, I wouldn't have expected clarity on his development into a boom or bust till '18, and certainly not '17.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-McCullough-7163/

Still completely enraged that we have lost yet another first rounder due to Ernie's grand mal stupidity. He has managed to completely blow a gigantic pile of firsts during this rebuild, just stunning. How on earth he hasn't been s canned is just amazing to me.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#82 » by pcbothwel » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:56 pm

NatP4 wrote:
Error Afflalo wrote:
tontoz wrote::banghead:

Gave up a 1st round pick just to get rid of Nicholson.


Nicholson is a sunk cost, but the fact that Ernie gets to keep giving up assets to clean up his messes is what's most disheartening.

In the end we traded our 2017 1st for a third of a season of a guy we can't afford to re-sign in order to rid ourselves of a guy who shouldn't have been signed in the first place. All of this at a time when our team is about to be very expensive and we're desperate for young, affordable talent with upside. I bet this moron expects to be patted on the back for it, too. Sigh...


Young affordable talent with upside, you mean like MCCULLOUGH?



Nat... Its just me and you buddy. I cant stand EG, and i dont think much of Bojan. But I really dont see how anyone can kill this trade.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#83 » by Upper Decker » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:57 pm

NatP4 wrote:ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

McCullough sucks. Two years into to his career and he's unplayable on the worst team in the league desperate to develop young talent.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#84 » by NatP4 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:57 pm

This trade is basically like trading Nicholson and our 1st for Collison and Skal. Yet people are going crazy lol
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#85 » by Error Afflalo » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:58 pm

NatP4 wrote:ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god


The same McCullough who's played 72 minutes all season for the worst team in the NBA? No one was giving up a first for him.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#86 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:59 pm

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NatP4 wrote:You guys do realize that McCullough was a high upside big taken in the 1st round just like we would've drafted with that pick.

And we added a scorer and dumped Nicholson.

And it's lottery protected

McCullough, in his second season, could only manage to steal 72 total minutes of playing time on the worst team in the league. He's a bust.


:-? (Smirk of disagreement)

I remember this kid at Syracuse. I remember LIKING his athleticism (blocks and steals were impressive). nate, he's been injured a good bit of the time and is VERY raw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCullough

April 2015, McCullough declared for the 2015 NBA draft, while still recovering from an ACL injury.[5][6] Despite that, on June 25, he was selected with the 29th overall pick by the Brooklyn Nets.[7] On July 1, he signed his rookie scale contract with the Nets.[8] He missed the first half of the 2015–16 season with the ACL injury he sustained as a freshman at Syracuse.[9] On February 5, 2016, he was activated for the first time, but did not play for the Nets against the Sacramento Kings.[10] Four days later, he made his NBA debut, recording 2 points, 2 rebounds, 1 steal and 1 block in just under 11 minutes off the bench in the Nets' 105–104 win over the Denver Nuggets.[11]

On April 6, 2016, McCullough scored 10 points against the Washington Wizards, reaching double-digits for the first time in his career. He was subsequently elevated to the starting line-up the following game, scoring 12 points on April 8 against the Charlotte Hornets.[12] In his third straight start for the Nets on April 11, he had another 12-point game in a loss to the Wizards.[13]



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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#87 » by pcbothwel » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:59 pm

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NatP4 wrote:ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

McCullough sucks. Two years into to his career and he's unplayable on the worst team in the league desperate to develop young talent.


Dude, Maybe you should watch how good Otto and Oubre were their 1st year... TERRIBLE. UNPLAYABLE.

CMC was a raw player that came out after his freshman year in which he tore his ACL. This is basically his rookie year...
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#88 » by NatP4 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:01 pm

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NatP4 wrote:ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god


The same McCullough who's played 72 minutes all season for the worst team in the NBA? No one was giving up a first for him.


The same McCullough that every draft scout said was a book or bust prospect that would spend time in the d league regardless. He's a high upside project developing. My god
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#89 » by 80sballboy » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:01 pm

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NatP4 wrote:
Error Afflalo wrote:
Nicholson is a sunk cost, but the fact that Ernie gets to keep giving up assets to clean up his messes is what's most disheartening.

In the end we traded our 2017 1st for a third of a season of a guy we can't afford to re-sign in order to rid ourselves of a guy who shouldn't have been signed in the first place. All of this at a time when our team is about to be very expensive and we're desperate for young, affordable talent with upside. I bet this moron expects to be patted on the back for it, too. Sigh...


Young affordable talent with upside, you mean like MCCULLOUGH?



Nat... Its just me and you buddy. I cant stand EG, and i dont think much of Bojan. But I really dont see how anyone can kill this trade.


I'm in the middle. Don't love it but I do think it upgrades the bench. Every time he trades a pick, people destroy Ernie. But when he selects a first-rounder, we crush him for it. That's obviously not his strength, nor is making great free agent pick ups. But Ernie has made decent trades over the years. Look at Sessions, Kief, Nene. This past off-season was horrific so as usual, he had to make amends. I do wish Bojan had more than a year left, but let's face it, we ARE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE for the next year or so, assuming Porter gets the max and we can add a few more pieces to the bench. Hopefully McCullough can be one of those.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#90 » by NatP4 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:02 pm

Young shot blocking stretch 4. Lottery talent. This is hilarious. Some delusional people in here
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#91 » by Papi_swav » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:03 pm

Bogs is not that bad of a player. He's horrible now because he is a starter on a horrible team. I think he will flourish on your team with one of the best point guards that knows how to find shooters, John Wall is great at that and Bogs is one of the best in the corner 3. He is very inconsistent but he can give you a game where he drops 30. He is horrible on defense but you guys have some solid perimeter defense in Oubre and Porter so he wouldn't be exposed as much as he is on the Nets. He knows how to score too, he is not just a shooter, he can drive and has a decent post game when he has mismatch. Just let him stand in the corner and wait for Wall to find him for a wide open 3.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#92 » by nate33 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:03 pm

NatP4 wrote:It should be

Wall Sato
Beal Bojan
Porter Oubre
Keef McCullough
Gortat Mahinmi

I'm telling you guys, he got the exact type of talent you would pick with that late 1st and added a scorer while ridding us of a terrible contract, there is literally nothing to complain about on this one

Except that if you draft a guy, there's that 1 in 4 chance that he actually pans out to be a legit, rotation caliber player. McCullough is like drafting the guy that you know is not going to pan out. We can safely conclude that he's not a diamond in the rough. He's just... rough.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#93 » by Dark Faze » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:04 pm

we don't even need this scrub that got included

we're having a bad time with roster spots as it is, didn't even call up anyone from the d-league which we clearly needed to do with the lack of talent on the bench because we let scrubs like house and ochefu do nothing at the end of the bench
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#94 » by nuposse04 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:04 pm

NatP4 wrote:This trade is basically like trading Nicholson and our 1st for Collison and Skal. Yet people are going crazy lol


How in the world is this trade like that? I don't abhor this trade like others, I certainly don't condone it since the FO did it to themselves with their own incredulous stupidity, but i won't sugar coat a potential turd. I hope McCullough pans out, but this trade was a horrible player+asset for a mediocre player and an unknown commodity. Hardly a win for us, at least if you are trying to build something long term anyways.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#95 » by mhd » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:05 pm

EG so screwed up the off-season that he had to sacrifice another 1st so Ted wouldn't pay the tax. Didn't they calculate that the signings last year would have made us a tax team?

There was no reason to sign Nicholson. None whatsoever.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#96 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:05 pm

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NatP4 wrote:ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

McCullough sucks. Two years into to his career and he's unplayable on the worst team in the league desperate to develop young talent.


Dude, Maybe you should watch how good Otto and Oubre were their 1st year... TERRIBLE. UNPLAYABLE.

CMC was a raw player that came out after his freshman year in which he tore his ACL. This is basically his rookie year
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:nod:

This.

I think McCullough is WORTH the pick. He just turned 22. He's very raw but seems to be fairly efficient shooting threes. Wall or players on the second unit are FINALLY going to have a finisher at the rim.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#97 » by Dark Faze » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:07 pm

mhd wrote:EG so screwed up the off-season that he had to sacrifice another 1st so Ted wouldn't pay the tax. Didn't they calculate that the signings last year would have made us a tax team?

There was no reason to sign Nicholson. None whatsoever.


as usual ernie didn't have the slightest ability to predict where things were going and thought we might be able to sign otto for cheap

he's a horrific GM
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#98 » by NatP4 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:08 pm

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Upper Decker wrote:McCullough sucks. Two years into to his career and he's unplayable on the worst team in the league desperate to develop young talent.


Dude, Maybe you should watch how good Otto and Oubre were their 1st year... TERRIBLE. UNPLAYABLE.

CMC was a raw player that came out after his freshman year in which he tore his ACL. This is basically his rookie year
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:nod:

This.

I think McCullough is WORTH the pick. He just turned 22. He's very raw but seems to be fairly efficient shooting threes. Wall or players on the second unit are FINALLY going to have a finisher at the rim.


Extremely athletic, lengthy, great shooting stroke. Loved him at Syracuse. He's going to be a good player.
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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#99 » by NatP4 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:It should be

Wall Sato
Beal Bojan
Porter Oubre
Keef McCullough
Gortat Mahinmi

I'm telling you guys, he got the exact type of talent you would pick with that late 1st and added a scorer while ridding us of a terrible contract, there is literally nothing to complain about on this one

Except that if you draft a guy, there's that 1 in 4 chance that he actually pans out to be a legit, rotation caliber player. McCullough is like drafting the guy that you know is not going to pan out. We can safely conclude that he's not a diamond in the rough. He's just... rough.


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Re: Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards 

Post#100 » by Kanyewest » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:10 pm

From a NBA preview article in 2016 about open 3 point shooters.

"Who was the most reliable guy defenses left open?

Do not leave Bojan Bogdanovic on the perimeter. He'll make you pay like a loan shark. He was first on the team in attempts last season with 144 and he knocked down 43.8 percent of those attempts. "


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/wide-open-3s-and-ranking-how-each-nba-team-fared-at-making-defenses-pay/

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