Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXIV

[dckingsfan]

If the Lakers were willing to give up D'Angelo Russell to simply dump Timofey Mozgov...

I think Magic really wanted Russell gone, maybe even more than Mozgov.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/magic-johnson-on-trading-dangelo-russell-out-of-l-a-i-needed-a-leader/

[Kanyewest]

If things turn out bad in New Orleans, what are the chances the Pelicans would send Davis and Holiday day our way for a package including Wall?

Not likely unless Wall signs his extension since he's a free agent in 2019.

[gambitx777]

No one is trading wall, hes really all we got, you loose him we have no shot of winning a title in at least 4-9 years.

[dangermouse]

Are negotiations between Dallas and Nerlens still stalling?

If they don't wanna pay the young man, can we get in on a sign and trade? I'd do Gortat and Oubre for Nerlens. And whatever filler to get the money right.

Gives us a young big with upside (finally). Gives them a C who would pair fantastically with Dirk for 'one last hurrah' (thats their goal right?) as well as gives them a young prospect as well in return.

[gambitx777]

Are negotiations between Dallas and Nerlens still stalling?

If they don't wanna pay the young man, can we get in on a sign and trade? I'd do Gortat and Oubre for Nerlens. And whatever filler to get the money right.

Gives us a young big with upside (finally). Gives them a C who would pair fantastically with Dirk for 'one last hurrah' (thats their goal right?) as well as gives them a young prospect as well in return.

No way.
Noel has injury history .
the best I would do is sign and trade them mahinmi and a first, maybe toss in a second but im not giving them gortat or kelley.
noel at 15 a year is at least somewhat more palatable than mahinmi. But I would rather go after len with the same offer, probably get him cheaper.

[pcbothwel]

Are negotiations between Dallas and Nerlens still stalling?

If they don't wanna pay the young man, can we get in on a sign and trade? I'd do Gortat and Oubre for Nerlens. And whatever filler to get the money right.

Gives us a young big with upside (finally). Gives them a C who would pair fantastically with Dirk for 'one last hurrah' (thats their goal right?) as well as gives them a young prospect as well in return.

I have no interest in that. Noel has a lot of tools defensively, but he is TERRIBLE offensively. It would appear that the modern NBA would be perfect for him, but its all theory and no execution. The fact that he is so thin/frail really limits his ability to set picks and get other guys free shots or get a good look at the rim after the roll (We all know hoe proficient Gortat has been in this area)

[montestewart]

Are negotiations between Dallas and Nerlens still stalling?

If they don't wanna pay the young man, can we get in on a sign and trade? I'd do Gortat and Oubre for Nerlens. And whatever filler to get the money right.

Gives us a young big with upside (finally). Gives them a C who would pair fantastically with Dirk for 'one last hurrah' (thats their goal right?) as well as gives them a young prospect as well in return.

I have no interest in that. Noel has a lot of tools defensively, but he is TERRIBLE offensively. It would appear that the modern NBA would be perfect for him, but its all theory and no execution. The fact that he is so thin/frail really limits his ability to set picks and get other guys free shots or get a good look at the rim after the roll (We all know hoe proficient Gortat has been in this area)

If there wasn't already Mahinmi, maybe, but I'd hate for the Wizards to have so much money tied up in two defensive center who add little to offense and are always injured. I'd rather they stay with Oubre and see where that leads.

[gambitx777]

Mark my words, Mahinmi will not finish the season here.

[Jay81]

Wall ian mahimi and some garbage for love and kyrie

[benb331]

Wall ian mahimi and some garbage for love and kyrie

[Dat2U]

Mark my words, Mahinmi will not finish the season here.

I'd wager against this. I don't see Ernie coughing up the resources it would take to dump Mahinmi, because despite your insistence to the contrary, it would take a lot to move a guy mostly regarded as an injury prone backup C getting paid almost $50 mil over the next 3 seasons. And if Mahinmi happens plays well, Ernie has zero impetus to deal him.

I think there's a better chance of Gortat getting dealt before the deadline.

[payitforward]

Are negotiations between Dallas and Nerlens still stalling?

If they don't wanna pay the young man, can we get in on a sign and trade? I'd do Gortat and Oubre for Nerlens. And whatever filler to get the money right.

Gives us a young big with upside (finally). Gives them a C who would pair fantastically with Dirk for 'one last hurrah' (thats their goal right?) as well as gives them a young prospect as well in return.

I have no interest in that. Noel has a lot of tools defensively, but he is TERRIBLE offensively. It would appear that the modern NBA would be perfect for him, but its all theory and no execution. The fact that he is so thin/frail really limits his ability to set picks and get other guys free shots or get a good look at the rim after the roll (We all know hoe proficient Gortat has been in this area)

Actually, last year Noel outscored Gortat by 25% per 40 minutes & at a significantly higher TS%.

TBH, I didn't see him enough to know how he did it -- it's true that he has no offensive skills. Plus Gortat's scoring fell off. So, if you think that was a fluke maybe that particular comparison doesn't matter so much?

For the rest, Noel's blocks and steals are very high -- & that's been true every year he's played in the league.

If you think Gortat has entered his declining years (seems a pretty good possibility to me -- & I've always been a big fan of his), then you might do this kind of a deal just b/c it's so helpful w/ our salary problems. But, no, I wouldn't send Oubre is such a deal -- one benefit is to get younger.

Plus the fact that he's expiring kills the appeal of the trade -- he won't wind up helping much, if at all, w/ the salary woes. Still... if it were Gortat straight up for Noel, I think I'd make that trade -- despite all the question marks.

But I can't see this being interesting to Dallas -- they are rebuilding; I don't see them going after "one last hurrah."

[payitforward]

Mark my words, Mahinmi will not finish the season here.

I'd wager against this. I don't see Ernie coughing up the resources it would take to dump Mahinmi, because despite your insistence to the contrary, it would take a lot to move a guy mostly regarded as an injury prone backup C getting paid almost $50 mil over the next 3 seasons. And if Mahinmi happens plays well, Ernie has zero impetus to deal him.

I think there's a better chance of Gortat getting dealt before the deadline.

I agree; in fact, I think's that's a high probability.

One thing tho... Ernie is really good at hiding his mistakes by finding ways to trade them. That's all that would make me think Mahinmi would be traded.

[dangermouse]

Wall ian mahimi and some garbage for love and kyrie

Kyrie IS garbage

[SUPERBALLMAN]

With Cleveland looking like it might be coming apart, maybe we can make a move for Love?

Something like Gortat, Smith, Sato, 1st round pick ?

Love, Morris, Porter, Beal, Wall would be a heck of a starting 5... good on the boards, shooting, passing, scoring.

Bench with Mahinmi, McCullough, Scott, Oubre, Meeks, Frazier

[BigA]

Mark my words, Mahinmi will not finish the season here.

I'd wager against this. I don't see Ernie coughing up the resources it would take to dump Mahinmi, because despite your insistence to the contrary, it would take a lot to move a guy mostly regarded as an injury prone backup C getting paid almost $50 mil over the next 3 seasons. And if Mahinmi happens plays well, Ernie has zero impetus to deal him.

I think there's a better chance of Gortat getting dealt before the deadline.

From the Houston-Knick talks, which broke down over 3rd teams wanting 2 first round picks plus other assets to take Ryan Anderson, the bad contracts signed last off season are toxic in the cap environment anticipated over the next few years.

There are so few teams with cap room or expiring contracts at this point that it might take 3 first round picks to unload Mahinmi to the Nets or whoever. Even if he can stay on the court and contribute.

If Mahinmi does play and contribute, Gortat is the one likely to be traded to get under the tax.

[Wizardspride]

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[europeanfan]

Why would they send Otto? Send Gortat, Oubre + a pick.

Chris Paul didn't net the Clippers a potential all star, he only netted them role players (Lou Williams, Beverley).

And Cousins is no CP3.

[gambitx777]

Mark my words, Mahinmi will not finish the season here.

I'd wager against this. I don't see Ernie coughing up the resources it would take to dump Mahinmi, because despite your insistence to the contrary, it would take a lot to move a guy mostly regarded as an injury prone backup C getting paid almost $50 mil over the next 3 seasons. And if Mahinmi happens plays well, Ernie has zero impetus to deal him.

I think there's a better chance of Gortat getting dealt before the deadline.

From the Houston-Knick talks, which broke down over 3rd teams wanting 2 first round picks plus other assets to take Ryan Anderson, the bad contracts signed last off season are toxic in the cap environment anticipated over the next few years.

There are so few teams with cap room or expiring contracts at this point that it might take 3 first round picks to unload Mahinmi to the Nets or whoever. Even if he can stay on the court and contribute.

If Mahinmi does play and contribute, Gortat is the one likely to be traded to get under the tax.

If you can see the difference between mahinmi and Anderson i feel bad for you. Mahinmi is only about 3 mill overpaid when healthy, if he can string together some health season hes not that bad of a deal tbh. Anderson is not worth much more than 10 mill and he's paid 18. On top of that Anderson is a lack luster rebounder, not a good defender and a streak shooter. Mahinmi is an elite rim protector . One is much more valuable to have on a team than the other due to the lack of options in the skill. Teams will take mahinmi before they take Anderson and they won't charge 3 firsts to do it. Or two. It will cost one. A mahinmi and a first for a sign and trade for now or Len is totally in the realm of reality .

[FAH1223]

Why would they send Otto? Send Gortat, Oubre + a pick.

Chris Paul didn't net the Clippers a potential all star, he only netted them role players (Lou Williams, Beverley).

And Cousins is no CP3.

Exactly.