GT #59: Knicks @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM)

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Stop assessing players' outings based on plus/minus.
Gibson was plus 4, & he was terrible.
Beal had an awful game but was even.
Porzingis was pretty good, but he was -15.

Wright was tremendous, obviously -- he doesn't go 5-7 on 3-pointers every night, alas!
But, Morris didn't have a bad game (nor a really good one, admittedly).

Our offense was incredibly good last night. Unbelievably good. We took 79 shots & 12 FTAs & produced 109 points -- that's an unbelievable .647 TS%.

The Knicks beat us, because they got to take 16 more shots than we got. Plus, less importantly, they also got 4 extra trips to the line.

Those 16 extra shots & 4 extra FTAs produced only 6 extra points!
But, it was enough.
You just don't win many games where you let the opponent shoot 16 more FGAs than you.

So, if you ask why we lost, you just need to ask how we gave them those 16 extra shots -- that's your reason. Period.
You don't need to look at anything else to explain the loss

IOW, Randle's scoring didn't beat us (though of course he had a great night).

The Knicks missed 47 shots, but we managed only 31 defensive boards. They got 12 offensive rebounds. We only missed 40 shots, & we only got 3 offensive rebounds.

Simple arithmetic: that difference gave them 9 extra chances to score.

They committed 12 turnovers but had 9 steals. We had 6 steals, but we committed 17 turnovers. Do the arithmetic: the difference gave them another 9 extra chances to score.

That's it; there is no more.

The combination of Mitchell Robinson's 4 offensive boards & just 2 or 3 of the turnovers committed by any of Kuzma, Porzingis, Gafford or Beal was enough to give away the game.

Stop ragging on Wes. He's not turning the ball over, & he's not incapable of pulling down a board on the offensive end.

Did you watch the game PIF? I agree that the extra possessions were what did us in. Sometimes the ball bounces badly and the other team secures the offensive rebound. Oh well, it happens. The frustrating part is that, apart from Delon and sometimes Deni, no one with regular rotation minutes on our team ever boxes out.

And that is on the coach.

[gambitx777]

Can someone please explain to me why the **** they play Taj mother **** Gibson actual rotation minutes. Carry JR should be getting those or **** you can play Gafford more than 12 minutes ( not sure if he got hurt) .

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Carey Jr. got about 6 minutes of non-garbage time about a month ago and didn’t play well, although I thought he showed good quickness for a big man. That looks to be his one chance. WUJ prefers Gibson, and even Gill for backup centers. Maybe some other team will give Carey Jr an opportunity.

I wouldn't really care if it was say a guy like idk plumlee, another early 30 years old vet center taking minutes from the kid but my god Taj Gibson has been washed for 7 years now. Give the kid a chance.

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[WallToWall]

Stop ragging on Wes. He's not turning the ball over, & he's not incapable of pulling down a board on the offensive end.

It is WUJ's job to get the players to give effort, get players to play D, to manage rotations, to create favorable matchups, to know how to attack opposing players (not just on offense), and coach up his players accordingly. Do you think he did those things? I dont.

[nate33]

Stop assessing players' outings based on plus/minus.
Gibson was plus 4, & he was terrible.
Beal had an awful game but was even.
Porzingis was pretty good, but he was -15.

Wright was tremendous, obviously -- he doesn't go 5-7 on 3-pointers every night, alas!
But, Morris didn't have a bad game (nor a really good one, admittedly).

Our offense was incredibly good last night. Unbelievably good. We took 79 shots & 12 FTAs & produced 109 points -- that's an unbelievable .647 TS%.

The Knicks beat us, because they got to take 16 more shots than we got. Plus, less importantly, they also got 4 extra trips to the line.

Those 16 extra shots & 4 extra FTAs produced only 6 extra points!
But, it was enough.
You just don't win many games where you let the opponent shoot 16 more FGAs than you.

So, if you ask why we lost, you just need to ask how we gave them those 16 extra shots -- that's your reason. Period.
You don't need to look at anything else to explain the loss

IOW, Randle's scoring didn't beat us (though of course he had a great night).

The Knicks missed 47 shots, but we managed only 31 defensive boards. They got 12 offensive rebounds. We only missed 40 shots, & we only got 3 offensive rebounds.

Simple arithmetic: that difference gave them 9 extra chances to score.

They committed 12 turnovers but had 9 steals. We had 6 steals, but we committed 17 turnovers. Do the arithmetic: the difference gave them another 9 extra chances to score.

That's it; there is no more.

The combination of Mitchell Robinson's 4 offensive boards & just 2 or 3 of the turnovers committed by any of Kuzma, Porzingis, Gafford or Beal was enough to give away the game.

Stop ragging on Wes. He's not turning the ball over, & he's not incapable of pulling down a board on the offensive end.

Did you watch the game PIF? I agree that the extra possessions were what did us in. Sometimes the ball bounces badly and the other team secures the offensive rebound. Oh well, it happens. The frustrating part is that, apart from Delon and sometimes Deni, no one with regular rotation minutes on our team ever boxes out.

And that is on the coach.

The Wizards are the 13th best team in the league on the defensive glass.

[Frichuela]

Stop ragging on Wes. He's not turning the ball over, & he's not incapable of pulling down a board on the offensive end.

It is WUJ's job to get the players to give effort, get players to play D, to manage rotations, to create favorable matchups, to know how to attack opposing players (not just on offense), and coach up his players accordingly. Do you think he did those things? I dont.

Agreed. Wes was throughly out-coached by Thibs. Did you see how quick the latter was calling time outs? Wes on the other hand tends to fall asleep at the wheel…

[Frichuela]

As usual we don’t get the respect from the refs…so Wizards…

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[nate33]

As usual we don’t get the respect from the refs…so Wizards…

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It was an absolutely crucial play. Deni D'd him up perfectly, and then he switched pivot feet and made the layup.

[Dat2U]

The ceiling for this team is probably just enough to lose our 1st round pick to the Knicks. How sad.

[FAH1223]

The ceiling for this team is probably just enough to lose our 1st round pick to the Knicks. How sad.

Don’t look now but the Raptors are ahead of the Wiz

Tomorrow’s game against the Bulls is CRITICAL

[Dat2U]

Kuzma shooting us out of games with Porzingis and Beal playing 0 defense equals a big fat L.

Aside, as good as Porzingis has been on offense at the 4, in this big lineup, he's been almost as bad on D. We give up way too many paint points and offensive rebounds with him in the game.

I've been saying this about his defense, and have been ignored. He is not able to play defense consistently at the four and has been getting cooked often. He's just not fast enough there, he gets blown by way to often, finds himself out of position. HE played much better at the 5 on defense. Gafford is a great asset off the bench, everyone just made it about him having to start after a few good games. Gafford was also pretty bad to start the season, there's no reason for him to need to start, he can be really effective off the bench.

Deni should comeback to the starting lineup. We don't really lose a whole lot of size with that move, and put Porzingis in a position he is much better at on defense.

The big lineup is fools good. Give credit to WUJ tho. Yes, give him credit for recognizing it works against certain lineups (i.e. bad teams) but playing TWO drop bigs together means getting ABSOLUTELY torched against teams with skilled high usage bigs like Randle or AD. And it would certaintly become a death knell in post season play.

[Dat2U]

The ceiling for this team is probably just enough to lose our 1st round pick to the Knicks. How sad.

Don’t look now but the Raptors are ahead of the Wiz

Tomorrow’s game against the Bulls is CRITICAL

Bulls are out Wizzing the Wiz which is really hard. The biggest reason so is missing Lonzo and Nikola Vucevic is the best 3rd option they can muster. Only saving factor is Bulls pick may convey if its not top 5 and Bulls not getting in top 4 no matter what so they might as well try to win. Need a big nights from DeRozan & LaVine to pull it out.

[dckingsfan]

Kuzma shooting us out of games with Porzingis and Beal playing 0 defense equals a big fat L.

Aside, as good as Porzingis has been on offense at the 4, in this big lineup, he's been almost as bad on D. We give up way too many paint points and offensive rebounds with him in the game.

I've been saying this about his defense, and have been ignored. He is not able to play defense consistently at the four and has been getting cooked often. He's just not fast enough there, he gets blown by way to often, finds himself out of position. HE played much better at the 5 on defense. Gafford is a great asset off the bench, everyone just made it about him having to start after a few good games. Gafford was also pretty bad to start the season, there's no reason for him to need to start, he can be really effective off the bench.

Deni should comeback to the starting lineup. We don't really lose a whole lot of size with that move, and put Porzingis in a position he is much better at on defense.

The big lineup is fools good. Give credit to WUJ tho. Yes, give him credit for recognizing it works against certain lineups (i.e. bad teams) but playing TWO drop bigs together means getting ABSOLUTELY torched against teams with skilled high usage bigs like Randle or AD. And it would certaintly become a death knell in post season play.

The problem is that the small lineup is also fools gold with Kuz at PF. And you get lots of mismatches when Porzingis is on (when he is not, it doesn't matter if you go big or small). Double edge sword there...

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

As usual we don’t get the respect from the refs…so Wizards…

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It was an absolutely crucial play. Deni D'd him up perfectly, and then he switched pivot feet and made the layup.

I can’t recall. Did we have a challenge left at the time?

[nate33]

As usual we don’t get the respect from the refs…so Wizards…

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It was an absolutely crucial play. Deni D'd him up perfectly, and then he switched pivot feet and made the layup.

I can’t recall. Did we have a challenge left at the time?

I don't think you can challenge the absence of a travel call.