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Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#81 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:22 pm

penbeast0 wrote:Those aren't premium firsts, it's a disappointing return. Still giving the front office a lot of rope for finally moving Beal and actually getting positive value but they don't seem to be strong bargainers otherwise.


I hate to say it, but there's a decent chance that 2029 pick ends up being quite valuable. It's the 2nd best out of Portland, Milwaukee, and Boston. Obviously a very long ways off, but you'd probably assume Boston will continue being good. My beloved Bucks could be toast by then though and there's no guarantee Portland works their way out of the cellar any time soon.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#82 » by J-Ves » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:22 pm

I don’t think anyone can point to a Tommy trade that was close to this bad. I’m so sad
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#83 » by badinage » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:22 pm

They better come away with Edey now.

And package effing Kuz with that 26 for some real value.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#84 » by doclinkin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:23 pm

Maybe they see Sarr as an upgrade as their defensive Forward. And want to play him with Bilal for heavy developmental minutes. And commit to the tank.

I'm hating this.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#85 » by tontoz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:23 pm

Trading Deni is bad enough, but trading him for a crap platter is beyond belief.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#86 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:23 pm

leswizards wrote:Malcolm is good and may bring in picks later. Also, if the Wizards get Edey at 14, I am going to love this trade.

Brogdon has missed 104 games in the past 3 years.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#87 » by penbeast0 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 pm

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penbeast0 wrote:Those aren't premium firsts, it's a disappointing return. Still giving the front office a lot of rope for finally moving Beal and actually getting positive value but they don't seem to be strong bargainers otherwise.


I hate to say it, but there's a decent chance that 2029 pick ends up being quite valuable. It's the 2nd best out of Portland, Milwaukee, and Boston. Obviously a very long ways off, but you'd probably assume Boston will continue being good. My beloved Bucks could be toast by then though and there's no guarantee Portland works their way out of the cellar any time soon.


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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#88 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 pm

badinage wrote:Why did I believe?

Why did I believe these dudes would be different?

Because they speak well and sound as if they took three years of management classes with Pete Buttigieg at McKinsey.

F*cking hell.

If they did want him out, which is stupidity itself, couldn’t they have gotten a sweeter deal???

It's not really stupidity. This team w/him wasn't contending for a playoff spot until '26-'27 at the earliest. So trading him always kind of made a bit of a sense, from the standpoint that you're wasting the value of his contract because you suck and can't do anything worth a damn until he's already played it out and is due to get paid properly for his talent.

The problem is, when I argued it could make sense to trade him to max out his value before he has a proper contract and is near the edge of the end of his prime, you'd do so in '25 for a better class of picks, or '26 for the same, you sure as hell wouldn't do it for a pick in this trash heap of a draft, and wtf is the "worse" pick of the '29 1sts? ----- that. If they're taking us to the cleaners in this deal, we sure as hell should have gotten an unprotected '29 first that was the highest of those in their pocket. That we didn't get that, and we just got some half ---ed mid first in this horse ---- draft is just crazy criminal.

My only solace is that we are going to totally suck, and actually probably build properly (especially if they trade Kuz in '25), we're not aiming for floor like idiot Simmons mentioned on his podcast as a strategy in this garbage draft, we're aiming for ceiling (I hope), and then if Sarr hits, it's either a grand slam of a hit, or at least a solid-good player who wont who either outcome until '25-'26 or '26-'27 maxing the next 2-3 tank years.

To me, that's the one piece of good news, it shows a seeming committment to suck in good draft years, rather than take short cuts. The bad news is the pay off for Deni and his sweet deal was total --- unless we hit a grand slam w/the picks, and that will be randomness, rather than their genius paying off.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#89 » by Benjammin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 pm

At least either get the 7th pick or get the best of the 29 first round picks or no deal. They couldn't even do that? What's the rush in trading Deni? He's under a descending contract for three more years and is an ascending player.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#90 » by Jimmy Recard » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 pm

Disgraceful. Deni is the only good thing about this team atm and we just traded him for what??? Please tell me this is a joke.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#91 » by tleikheen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:24 pm

"Bruh look at the wiz sub, we just fleeced them. This was a great trade." This off of Ripcity reddit

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#92 » by smoothSeph » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:25 pm

Sounds like a lock Sarr is coming to DC. Kuzma plays the 4, Sarr says he's playing the 4, Deni is also best at the 4. Hopefully Kuzma is gone too but it makes sense to get what you can for Deni. Think his value was pretty high after he got the keys the last 10 games of the season.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#93 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:27 pm

Please, tell me this is a nightmare!

Maybe we will get lucky and Brogdon won't pass a physical, negating the trade. Something!
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#94 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:27 pm

This really sucks. Trade away one of the best young players in the game for the 14th pick. They better have another move that justifies this.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#95 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:28 pm

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A mid 1st in a draft considered the worst in a decade, and a later first in a draft 5 years from now and some throw away seconds you can freaking buy IS NOT SELLING HIGH.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#96 » by Benjammin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:28 pm

Does Brogdon have any value because there's no point in keeping him until the trade deadline?
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#97 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:28 pm

Can we bring back Tommy Sheppard? At least he knew how to make trades.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#98 » by Ed Wood » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:28 pm

Wow, that’s a bad one!
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#99 » by Tyrone Messby » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:29 pm

Maybe they can package Bilal with Kuzma to get another 1st rounder this year!! At this point I wouldn't put it past them... :banghead:
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#100 » by JRoy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:29 pm

Looking forward to seeing Avdija in action.

WAS gets 4 picks including a lotto pick this year, and the chance to move Brigdon for more assets.
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