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Post#81 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:40 pm

dobrojim wrote:
9 and 20 wrote:Big time competition for a top 5 pick -

Utah
Toronto
Charlotte

Everyone else seems clearly a step above us - Detroit, Portland, etc. Utah will be hard to beat for that top spot.



My question, and I almost feel like it deserves its own thread, is what is the appropriate balance
between totally tanking and not tanking at all. You can have the worst record and still not get a
very high pick. Going that route could hurt the development of the players you already have.
Being awful doesn't guarantee anything except being awful. Or as PIF would point out, high
picks are no guarantee of getting good players even as they do give you better opportunities
for the best players. That said, I think 10 years from now, it will probably be the consensus
that in certain years, like last year with Wemby, there is a pretty clear choice. Maybe that
is a more of a rare circumstance than the promoters of tanking would readily concede.
Would Zion still go before Ja in a redo with perfect foresight? Of course, they went 1-2,
so you still had to be bad and have lotto luck to draft either.

I think the very early returns of our 1st year players looks reasonably promising. This hints
that we could do okay without necessarily getting the #1#1.

But It will be interesting to see, after 3-5 years, what order our 3 rookies would rank
among themselves. But this wouldn't tell you which order you would have had to draft
them in in order to get them.



I actually like what they’re doing. Play the young foundational players as much as possible, see what they can do and what you have in them, let them learn & develop, the losses will come just due to lack of experience, and hopefully the losing will motivate them to work hard this offseason, as well as lead to a high draft pick.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#82 » by nate33 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:51 pm

dobrojim wrote:that makes sense. I had given up trying to remember the latest tweaks to the lotto procedure.
So basically if your goal is a high pick, you don't want to rise above 3rd worst.

Exactly.

And even accidentally rising to 4th worst isn't the end of the world. The odds of landing a top 4 pick only fall from 52% to 48% and you are still very likely to pick no worse than 6th.

The real decline starts after that. At 5th worst, your top 4 pick odds are 42%. At 6th worst, they're 37%. And when you miss the top 4, you fall down to the 6-9 range.
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Post#83 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:47 pm

Duke vs UK on ESPN at 9.
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Post#84 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:26 am

tontoz wrote:Duke vs UK on ESPN at 9.

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Post#85 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:48 am

UK coming back after Dukes big man Malauch comes out rubbing his knee
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Post#86 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:36 am

Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.
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Post#87 » by nate33 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:26 pm

BearlyBallin wrote:Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.

Man, he would be such a perfect fit here. With him on our roster, our relatively small roster suddenly looks really big. Kyshawn moves to SF, Bilal moves to SG and Carrington remains at PG. Everyone would all fill out a bit more as the mature physically (and Kyshawn and Carrington might actually grow taller). That's a huge, athletic lineup.
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Post#88 » by Frichuela » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:01 pm

nate33 wrote:
BearlyBallin wrote:Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.

Man, he would be such a perfect fit here. With him on our roster, our relatively small roster suddenly looks really big. Kyshawn moves to SF, Bilal moves to SG and Carrington remains at PG. Everyone would all fill out a bit more as the mature physically (and Kyshawn and Carrington might actually grow taller). That's a huge, athletic lineup.


Agreed. His fit is so obvious.

We MUST finish bottom 3 so we can have the highest odds for the number 1 pick: 14%.
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Post#89 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:04 pm

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BearlyBallin wrote:Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.

Man, he would be such a perfect fit here. With him on our roster, our relatively small roster suddenly looks really big. Kyshawn moves to SF, Bilal moves to SG and Carrington remains at PG. Everyone would all fill out a bit more as the mature physically (and Kyshawn and Carrington might actually grow taller). That's a huge, athletic lineup.


lol :lol: I’ve been imagining Flagg in a Wizards uniform running with the Wiz Kids. Glad to see I’m not the only one dreaming about it.

Watching college draft prospects this year make’s watching the 4th quarter of wizards blow out games a lot easier.
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Post#90 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:28 pm

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nate33 wrote:
BearlyBallin wrote:Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.

Man, he would be such a perfect fit here. With him on our roster, our relatively small roster suddenly looks really big. Kyshawn moves to SF, Bilal moves to SG and Carrington remains at PG. Everyone would all fill out a bit more as the mature physically (and Kyshawn and Carrington might actually grow taller). That's a huge, athletic lineup.


Agreed. His fit is so obvious.

We MUST finish bottom 3 so we can have the highest odds for the number 1 pick: 14%.


I’ve never been a pro tanker before because it was hard for me to watch them lose. But this year it doesn’t feel as bad. Probably because it’s been so much fun watching these youngsters. The rapid progress in Coulibaly and the play from the rookies are fun to watch even when they lose. If there is such a thing as a fun way to tank this may be it. Here’s to a joyful tanktastic season.
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Post#91 » by tontoz » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:48 pm

I've only watched the first half so far but Flagg had some nice moves off the dribble. The problem in college is the spacing is much worse so it is harder to get to the rim/easier to turn it over.
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Post#92 » by nate33 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:53 pm

tontoz wrote:I've only watched the first half so far but Flagg had some nice moves off the dribble. The problem in college is the spacing is much worse so it is harder to get to the rim/easier to turn it over.

I am impressed with just how big he is. He looks like he could play some center in a pinch. I'd say Banchero is his closest NBA comparison, only Flagg already looks hard wired to play man-to-man and team defense at a high level.
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Post#93 » by tontoz » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:07 pm

nate33 wrote:
tontoz wrote:I've only watched the first half so far but Flagg had some nice moves off the dribble. The problem in college is the spacing is much worse so it is harder to get to the rim/easier to turn it over.

I am impressed with just how big he is. He looks like he could play some center in a pinch. I'd say Banchero is his closest NBA comparison, only Flagg already looks hard wired to play man-to-man and team defense at a high level.



I watched this scouting report on Flagg recently. This guy sounds a little odd but is very thorough and raved about Flagg's motor on D.

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Post#94 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:58 pm

nate33 wrote:
BearlyBallin wrote:Flagg ends the game with 2 turnovers and fails to block out his man on the free throw. UK wins.

Regardless Flagg looks so good at 17 playing a deep UK team.

Man, he would be such a perfect fit here. With him on our roster, our relatively small roster suddenly looks really big. Kyshawn moves to SF, Bilal moves to SG and Carrington remains at PG. Everyone would all fill out a bit more as the mature physically (and Kyshawn and Carrington might actually grow taller). That's a huge, athletic lineup.



I like it! I really like that lineup! The size, the length, the versatility & switchability, THE DEFENSE!, and the youth!

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Post#95 » by BearlyBallin » Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:28 am

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Post#96 » by closg00 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:51 pm

Is Philly tanking?
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Post#97 » by bsilver » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:09 pm

closg00 wrote:Is Philly tanking?

Maxey coming back real soon. They’ll be a lot better.
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Post#98 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:27 pm

bsilver wrote:
closg00 wrote:Is Philly tanking?

Maxey coming back real soon. They’ll be a lot better.



Maxey just called out Embiid for always being late....to everything :lol:
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Post#99 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:20 pm

29 pts for Texas freshman Tre Johnson in debut.

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Post#100 » by payitforward » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:29 am

Wow...!

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