Tre Johnson: welcome to the DMV

[The Consiglieri]

Getting Rookie of the Year vibes from this kid.

Kudos to Danny Ainge, he really did us a solid picking Ace Bailey.

I definitely think Tre will be better as a rookie than Bailey, but I'm not seeing much ROY potential when Flagg and Harper are in position to get lots of minutes and media attention while playing for good teams who will actually win games. I suppose Harper may have trouble competing with Fox, but Flagg is going to be fine.

ROY thing is irrelevant as we all should know, don't care about trophies of that sort, but I do find myself backpedaling on him, the more I read, the Dawkins quotes etc, feels like he may do the work to round out most if not all of his game, I'm just troubled it didn't happen at all at Texas, but am I backpedaling from my instant take after the damn Jazz took Bailey, yeah, I am, the work habits, mental makeup, interview type grades all appear through the roof, the raw ability technically to address the holes in the game, the ready made NBA tools and skills, it's hard not to see him as anything worse than a dynamite 3 and iffy D guy, at bare minimum, and if he adds the other elements or a decent chunk of them? Wow.

Meanwhile, Bailey still, in my view, carries that high ceiling, he wasn't the #2 recruit, #2 prospect, and guy who only slightly slipped despite a very up and down college year for no reason, but man, every intangible is a question mark with him, every single one, at this point, whereas I think we are pretty darn secure with Tre.

[gambitx777]

Think of it this way. Beal is probably legit a top ten all time wizard. If this can can be beal + and do it earlier and for a better length of time. Which is a legit possibility. This kid could be an all time great wizard.

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[BearlyBallin]

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I’m starting to get excited for a summer league game.

Woo Woo!!

[TheBlackCzar]

That pass that Tre did where he was in mid air, bounced the ball off the contesting Maluach's calf, doing a self pass, and then grabbed the ball and threw it in for layup..... Oh yeah younging a nut, and creative as hell.... Didn't know that was in his bag, but nice to know.....

[prime1time]

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In the context of Tre's finishing being one of the biggest knocks on him coming out of college, this finish over Maluach just looks even sweeter. His trainer post workout videos and it's obvious that Tre has been working on his finishing. With that being said, this finish over 7'2 Maluach is very impressive. What's happening for Tre is that the holes in his game are getting fixed. And as they get fixed, there will just be less ways to stop him.

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This play at 2:28 is the future of the Wizards. Tre/Sarr PnR. Maluach is playing drop. Sarr wide open can knock that shot down. Tre is lethal off the dribble and knocks down the tough 3. We can say, "oh wow, that's a tough shot" but the reality is that Johnson can make it. These are the shots he was taking at Texas and he shot like 39.9% from 3.

This deserves its own right up but the synergy between Tre's skillset and Sarr skillset is very high. WIth Sarr/Johnson you can pick and pop with Sarr. You can have Tre attack down hill for a floater, attack down hill finish at the rim. If teams switch now you have the mismatch with Sarr on a smaller player. You have a mismatch where Tre could attack with a stepback. If they trap you can get 4 on 3's with Sarr in your Draymond Green role. In addition, if teams try to put elite defenders on Tre you can make Tre off ball. And initiate the offense with Sarr using dribble hand offs or in the high post and passing the ball. Another thing we saw today that we didn't really see before is Sarr as a lob threat. As more teams try to take away a Sarr lob, expect Johnson to get better looks from 3. Lastly, look for the Wizards to find Johnson in transition.

[prime1time]

Bookmark this post. When Tre Johnson starts passing the ball instead of taking tough shots early/mid shot clock you'll know that he has fully arrived. Tre Johnson can make those shots but those aren't the shots you want to take. Especially not early in the shot clock. When he buys into that mindset that's when we know he will hit another level.

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Tre Johnson >>>> Cooper Flagg numbers dont lie playa

[NatP4]

Bookmark this post. When Tre Johnson starts passing the ball instead of taking tough shots early/mid shot clock you'll know that he has fully arrived. Tre Johnson can make those shots but those aren't the shots you want to take. Especially not early in the shot clock. When he buys into that mindset that's when we know he will hit another level.

It’ll take awhile on this I’d imagine. Tre probably envisions himself as a Devin Booker type of on-ball scorer. Defense and passing is optional (although he made a number of nice passes for open 3s).

He very well might have the talent to be a Devin Booker type primary option though, so the Wizards will surely give him the runway to develop into that guy.

Maybe he doesn’t, and has to adapt to play with more off-ball movement/better defensive effort in order to become a Khris Middleton type.

I’m confident he won’t end up a Malik Monk/RJ Barrett type, better size and shooting from the start. Happy we didn’t end up with Bailey, Fears, Demin, Maluach, Coward, or Queen. Time will tell.

[prime1time]

Bookmark this post. When Tre Johnson starts passing the ball instead of taking tough shots early/mid shot clock you'll know that he has fully arrived. Tre Johnson can make those shots but those aren't the shots you want to take. Especially not early in the shot clock. When he buys into that mindset that's when we know he will hit another level.

It’ll take awhile on this I’d imagine. Tre probably envisions himself as a Devin Booker type of on-ball scorer. Defense and passing is optional (although he made a number of nice passes for open 3s).

He very well might have the talent to be a Devin Booker type primary option though, so the Wizards will surely give him the runway to develop into that guy.

Maybe he doesn’t, and has to adapt to play with more off-ball movement/better defensive effort in order to become a Khris Middleton type.

I’m confident he won’t end up a Malik Monk/RJ Barrett type, better size and shooting from the start. Happy we didn’t end up with Bailey, Fears, Demin, Maluach, Coward, or Queen. Time will tell.

He's way more advanced than Barrett. And he's way more advanced than Monk. Right now I think you could debate who's better offensively. In 1 year there will be no debate. Booker is an interesting comp. Booker puts up good per game numbers but if you look at his PER his best season is 22. I think Tre's career will diverge from Booker because of the 3-point shooting (and the same goes for Beal). His shot breakdown will have way more 3-point attempts than those guys. Steph led the league in 3-point attempts at 11.2. I think Johnson should be above 10 3-point attempts in his prime.

He can make 3's off the dribble, off of screens and on spot-ups. This is something that neither Beal or Booker could do. They can make set 3's but the ability to catch on the move and shoot or attack off the dribble and shoot from 3 is something they can't do efficiently. This year Booker shot only 33.2% from 3. And remember how Beal's 3-point efficiency dropped as he became more on ball? Yes Booker is a good scorer but he's not an elite 3-point shooter. So what happens is that those guys get very technical at scoring inside the paint, but it doesn't have the same effect on winning as Steph does.

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54.8% when the defense is game planning to stop you as the #1 option is crazy. Tre is going to have way larger gravity and create way more spacing on the floor than a guy like Booker.

[prime1time]

Bookmark this post. When Tre Johnson starts passing the ball instead of taking tough shots early/mid shot clock you'll know that he has fully arrived. Tre Johnson can make those shots but those aren't the shots you want to take. Especially not early in the shot clock. When he buys into that mindset that's when we know he will hit another level.

It’ll take awhile on this I’d imagine. Tre probably envisions himself as a Devin Booker type of on-ball scorer. Defense and passing is optional (although he made a number of nice passes for open 3s).

He very well might have the talent to be a Devin Booker type primary option though, so the Wizards will surely give him the runway to develop into that guy.

Maybe he doesn’t, and has to adapt to play with more off-ball movement/better defensive effort in order to become a Khris Middleton type.

I’m confident he won’t end up a Malik Monk/RJ Barrett type, better size and shooting from the start. Happy we didn’t end up with Bailey, Fears, Demin, Maluach, Coward, or Queen. Time will tell.

He's way more advanced than Barrett. And he's way more advanced than Monk. Right now I think you could debate who's better offensively. In 1 year there will be no debate. Booker is an interesting comp. Booker puts up good per game numbers but if you look at his PER his best season is 22. I think Tre's career will diverge from Booker because of the 3-point shooting (and the same goes for Beal). His shot breakdown will have way more 3-point attempts than those guys. Steph led the league in 3-point attempts at 11.2. I think Johnson should be above 10 3-point attempts in his prime.

He can make 3's off the dribble, off of screens and on spot-ups. This is something that neither Beal or Booker could do. They can make set 3's but the ability to catch on the move and shoot or attack off the dribble and shoot from 3 is something they can't do efficiently. This year Booker shot only 33.2% from 3. And remember how Beal's 3-point efficiency dropped as he became more on ball? Yes Booker is a good scorer but he's not an elite 3-point shooter. So what happens is that those guys get very technical at scoring inside the paint, but it doesn't have the same effect on winning as Steph does.

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54.8% when the defense is game planning to stop you as the #1 option is crazy. Tre is going to have way larger gravity and create way more spacing on the floor than a guy like Booker.

As far as his defense goes, the obsession is weird to me. Defense is about intensity and desire. Right now he's focused on his offense. He's not a defensive disaster but he also won't be the point of attack. That's why you have Bilal. As a secondary or tertiary defender, Tre is more than adequate. With guys like Sarr and Bilal on the floor I'm not that concerned.

It's the rare guard that is elite on offense and good/great on defense. The norms are guys like Beal, Booker, Brunson and Young.

[DCZards]

As far as his defense goes, the obsession is weird to me. Defense is about intensity and desire. Right now he's focused on his offense. He's not a defensive disaster but he also won't be the point of attack. That's why you have Bilal. As a secondary or tertiary defender, Tre is more than adequate. With guys like Sarr and Bilal on the floor I'm not that concerned.

It's the rare guard that is elite on offense and good/great on defense. The norms are guys like Beal, Booker, Brunson and Young.

I agree that we shouldn’t be obsessed with how well Tre is playing on defense. But you want young players to learn early on that playing good D can be just as important as scoring.

Unlike Young and Brunson, Johnson has the physical tools to be a good defender, which often starts with effort and focus. If I’m the Zards, I’m going to push Tre from the outset to play well on that end of the court as well.

Tre doesn’t need to be an “elite” defender but I’d challenge him to be good one.

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As far as his defense goes, the obsession is weird to me. Defense is about intensity and desire. Right now he's focused on his offense. He's not a defensive disaster but he also won't be the point of attack. That's why you have Bilal. As a secondary or tertiary defender, Tre is more than adequate. With guys like Sarr and Bilal on the floor I'm not that concerned.

It's the rare guard that is elite on offense and good/great on defense. The norms are guys like Beal, Booker, Brunson and Young.

I agree that we shouldn’t be obsessed with how well Tre is playing on defense. But you want young players to learn early on that playing good D can be just as important as scoring.

Unlike Young and Brunson, Johnson has the physical tools to be a good defender, which often starts with effort and focus. If I’m the Zards, I’m going to push Tre from the outset to play well on that end of the court as well.

Tre doesn’t need to be an “elite” defender but I’d challenge him to be good one.

I agree. My comment was more aimed at people who reflexively talk about Tre being a bad defender without acknowledging that he carried the offense at Texas. It's a special special player who's carrying an offensive and leading the attack on defense. Most great offensive players are hidden defensively.

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Tre Allen. Too Shnasty wit it. I'm more or less convinced he's a better prospect than Beal was. At least that's what my eyes tell me.

[tontoz]

Tre Allen. Too Shnasty wit it. I'm more or less convinced he's a better prospect than Beal was. At least that's what my eyes tell me.

Different players. Beal is more athletic and better at getting to the rim and finishing. But Tre might be the most dangerous 3 pt shooter to come into the league since Steph. Beal was actually pretty weak from 3 for much of his career.

Tre makes contested 3s off the dribble look easy.

[tontoz]

I feel like we should send the Hornets a gift basket for taking Kon at 4.

[Kanyewest]

I feel like we should send the Hornets a gift basket for taking Kon at 4.

Wizards owe them for taking Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

[Despy]

Wish we had a shooting guard other than Beal to compare players too. Tres already got 1000x better handles than Beal had his rookie year

[TheBlackCzar]

Tre Johnson is much nicer than I thought he'd be......
Great to get a surprise after the lottery let down......
I was down on him more for missing on Ace, than anything but I'm glad to be wrong because he's very nice with it beyond just shooting....

[tontoz]

Tre Johnson is much nicer than I thought he'd be......
Great to get a surprise after the lottery let down......
I was down on him more for missing on Ace, than anything but I'm glad to be wrong because he's very nice with it beyond just shooting....

I'll never forget the sense of relief i felt when NO drafted Kon. I was like...