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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#81 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:42 pm

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But there have been many insightful comments made by other veterans about the Wizards' rookies throughout training camp.

TRE JOHNSON III

McCollum: “Loves the game, hard worker. Obviously, everybody knows about his shooting. More explosive than he probably gets credit for. He’s got a bright future. He asks questions and wants to be great. I think he’s got a really bright future.”

Khris Middleton: “He’s a shooter, man. I mean, he has confidence. He’s going to pull them whenever he’s open and not think twice about it.”

Corey Kispert: “He can shoot it, man. He burns the nets off these rims. To have anybody in the league where if you’re in a bind offensively you can throw it to him and let him work is a luxury. He’s wired to score and he’s wired to put the ball in the bucket. Having guys like that on your team that are a safety blanket really is a luxury for everybody 1-through-12.”

WILL RILEY

McCollum: “I think he’s got some European flair to his game and by that I mean he’s always in the right spots. Great cutter, moves well without the ball. Good pivoting for a rookie. Usually rookies don’t pivot well, they play too fast. He’s got a good jumpshot, always crashes the boards. He looks really good in 5-on-5. He plays really well, he moves well. He doesn’t look lost, he doesn’t look uncomfortable, he doesn’t look scared. I think he’s got a bright future, too.”

Middleton: “I would say his motor [has stood out]. He’s a quiet guy, kind of reserved. But he’s a guy that’s non-stop moving. He’s tough, he can score the ball, he can shoot. He knows how to play, he’s a great cutter. He does a lot of things that you probably wouldn’t have noticed until you sit back and watch film or just watch practice. He’s non-stop moving. And, just like Tre, he picks up things very quickly, also.”

Kispert: “He’s a dog. He works his tail off, plays at 110 percent every possession. Will has gotten a lot of opportunities and looks at the basket and points scored and steals just because he plays harder than anyone else. That’s a lesson that any young guy that wants to play in the NBA or is just getting into the NBA can take, that especially when you maintain it over the course of the season, you’re going to carve a niche for yourself if you just play harder than everybody. That’s been proven over and over again.”

JAMIR WATKINS

McCollum: “Great defender. He asks questions about defense. He was in the cold tub yesterday asking me about [my former Pelicans teammate] Herb Jones and what makes him such a good defender. He was asking me how he got to that point. I was telling him that he cares. He watches film, he makes the extra effort and the body type matches. He’s got a good body - 6-foot-5, 6-foot-6 with long arms, quick enough to guard ones, strong enough to guard threes and fours. He can probably switch onto some fives and then it’s 3-and-D. The league loves that. Guys who can guard all the positions, guys that make quick decisions, catch-and-shoot, can slash one dribble off a closeout but really are out there to guard and guard at a high level. He has ‘lockdown’ written all over him in terms of his future. I think he can guard one-through-five. Jumpshot is already good, which is usually an issue for guys. Usually, the best defenders struggle to shoot. That’s another guy who works, asks questions and knows he’s going to be able to carve out a niche in this league.”


I believe Johnson, Riley, and Watkins are a better group than last season's picks.

Watkins can probably switch up on some fives? That's Kawhi-level defense. CJ McCollum makes him sound like Derrick White.

Will Riley is a a dog, level-headed, stays moving and is a quick learner.

Tre can shoot and is more athletic and explosive than you think. Is a go-to scorer.

Three alphas. These guys will not disappoint.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#82 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:45 pm

Kanyewest wrote:In 17 minutes

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Yang is much better than Sarr.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#83 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:56 pm

closg00 wrote:WCJR is another player many wanted on draft night, Ace & WCJR already have some chemistry early, I would loved to have WCJR and moved Bub to SG.

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Going by the way teams drafted in the 80s, Clayton Jr would have been considered as a John Stockton, Rod Strickland, Danny Hurley-type lfloor leader.

He is sure to live up to his draft position.

Im trying to remember the NBA-championship PG for the Heat who had a similar game.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#84 » by doclinkin » Sat Oct 11, 2025 10:05 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:In 17 minutes

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Yang is much better than Sarr.


Noway. Not on defense. Sarr can effectively guard 1-5. That’s rare. And more important for a big than a spin move. In the playoffs a big without lateral movement gets benched. Sarr can improve his jumper and develop a low post skill set but bigs rarely get better lateral mobility. .
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Post#85 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:44 am

Sarr has some ying, but I don't think he's got enough Yang to his game.
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Post#86 » by doclinkin » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:51 am

Maybe not on offense yet. On defense he’s got it out the yingyang.
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Post#87 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:29 am

I am going to retain that thought:


"Alex Sarr plays defense out the yingyang!"
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Post#88 » by payitforward » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:33 am

This exchange has me yearning for our first pre-season game! :)
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#89 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:33 am

[quote="Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Going by the way teams drafted in the 80s, Clayton Jr. would have been considered as a John Stockton, Rod Strickland, Danny Hurley-type floor leader.

He is sure to live up to his draft position.

I'm trying to remember the NBA-championship PG for the Heat who had a similar game.[/quote]

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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#90 » by penbeast0 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:12 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:WCJR is another player many wanted on draft night, Ace & WCJR already have some chemistry early, I would loved to have WCJR and moved Bub to SG.

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Going by the way teams drafted in the 80s, Clayton Jr would have been considered as a John Stockton, Rod Strickland, Danny Hurley-type lfloor leader.

He is sure to live up to his draft position.

Im trying to remember the NBA-championship PG for the Heat who had a similar game.


First, don't EVER imply that John Stockton and Rod Strickland were similar players; that fat hotdog eating, dribble pounding, empty stat loser is more a poor man's Starbury than a great PG like Stockton.

Second, Clayton's more a good handles 2 in those days than a point guard. Jeff Hornacek would be the Utah guard that they hope he develops into. Today, with so many ball dominant handling wings, you can play a player like that at the one much more easily but he's not going to ever be Tyrese Haliburton. Not an insult, Horny was a terrific player and a winner, just more a top quality secondary playmaker than a true lead guard.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#91 » by closg00 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:01 pm

Who is this new generation of athletic white guys?
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#92 » by payitforward » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:02 pm

penbeast0 wrote:...Rod Strickland ...that fat hotdog eating, dribble pounding, empty stat loser....

Not sure I see the need to pour vitriol onto Rod Strickland.
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Post#93 » by penbeast0 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:24 pm

Were you here when he was? IF so, hopefully you understand.
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Post#94 » by doclinkin » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:59 pm

Maybe Utah can’t help but pass us in the win totals this year. Never mind the Markannen trade rumors. Those rooks look good on court together.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#95 » by nate33 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 2:09 pm

doclinkin wrote:Maybe Utah can’t help but pass us in the win totals this year. Never mind the Markannen trade rumors. Those rooks look good on court together.

The West is brutal though. There are no tanking teams at all (except Utah). There are only 2 potentially bad teams in Phoenix and New Orleans, and they have both traded away their 2026 pick so tanking is not an option. They will fight in each game until the bitter end.

Meanwhile, the East starts the year off with two overtly tanking teams in Brooklyn and Washington. Charlotte will be atrocious defensively and has a history of injury problems so they could join the tanking ranks. Philly could be real bad and shift to tanking mode as well (though they have to finish with a top 4 pick or else it will go to OKC). And then there's Chicago, Toronto who just aren't very good, though they will try. Basically, the bottom 6 teams of the East are arguably worse than every team in the West save Utah and Phoenix.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#96 » by dckingsfan » Sun Oct 12, 2025 4:26 pm

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doclinkin wrote:Maybe Utah can’t help but pass us in the win totals this year. Never mind the Markannen trade rumors. Those rooks look good on court together.

The West is brutal though. There are no tanking teams at all (except Utah). There are only 2 potentially bad teams in Phoenix and New Orleans, and they have both traded away their 2026 pick so tanking is not an option. They will fight in each game until the bitter end.

Meanwhile, the East starts the year off with two overtly tanking teams in Brooklyn and Washington. Charlotte will be atrocious defensively and has a history of injury problems so they could join the tanking ranks. Philly could be real bad and shift to tanking mode as well (though they have to finish with a top 4 pick or else it will go to OKC). And then there's Chicago, Toronto who just aren't very good, though they will try. Basically, the bottom 6 teams of the East are arguably worse than every team in the West save Utah and Phoenix.

And there could be that team that has earlier injury problems and throws in the towel.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#97 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:46 pm

penbeast0 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
closg00 wrote:WCJR is another player many wanted on draft night, Ace & WCJR already have some chemistry early, I would loved to have WCJR and moved Bub to SG.

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Going by the way teams drafted in the 80s, Clayton Jr would have been considered as a John Stockton, Rod Strickland, Danny Hurley-type lfloor leader.

He is sure to live up to his draft position.

Im trying to remember the NBA-championship PG for the Heat who had a similar game.


First, don't EVER imply that John Stockton and Rod Strickland were similar players; that fat hotdog eating, dribble pounding, empty stat loser is more a poor man's Starbury than a great PG like Stockton.

Second, Clayton's more a good handles 2 in those days than a point guard. Jeff Hornacek would be the Utah guard that they hope he develops into. Today, with so many ball dominant handling wings, you can play a player like that at the one much more easily but he's not going to ever be Tyrese Haliburton. Not an insult, Horny was a terrific player and a winner, just more a top quality secondary playmaker than a true lead guard.
Rod Strickland was better than John Stockton. Switch teams and draft scenarios.

Stockton didn't even start his first three seasons.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stockjo01.html

A funny thing happened when Karl Malone got great. John Stockton suddenly made a quantum leap.

OTOH, Strickland had to compete day one aginst Knicks NBA Rookie of the Year Mark Jackson. He was traded to San Antonio his second season and started the next dozen years between there, Portland, and Washington.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stricro02.html


Imagine if Strickland had played with Karl Malone and Stockton had played alongside the same marginal players that Rod Strickland did.

DISCLAIMER: This is perhaps absurd.
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Post#98 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:51 pm

Walter Clayton Jr. is this draft's Stockton.

I triggered someone when I compared him to the hot dog eater.
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Post#99 » by closg00 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:52 pm

I learned that Utah is playing to Ace’s strengths, and using him in the offense accordingly.
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Re: 2025 Rookie Class 

Post#100 » by closg00 » Wed Oct 15, 2025 2:55 am

Fears was the player I pimped the hardest for pre-draft, nice 19th birthday outing for him.
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