2014 Draft Thread (Early offseason panic edition).

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Not sure how reliable this source is, but here's a quote on who might be dealing their picks:

The draft could have plenty of fireworks as there are a spate of teams, mostly veteran-laden ones, who are willing to unload their first-round picks. Among those teams are the Los Angeles Lakers, Atlanta, Houston, Phoenix and Chicago. Sacramento and Phoenix are also quite receptive to making a trade.

http://journaltimes.com/sports/basketba ... 963f4.html

Another example of your guy Ernie always being ahead of the game -- we got rid of our pick long ago -- before any of these Johny-come-latelies!

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We really need to move up into the mid twenties to draft Jarnell Stokes. He looks like a perfect fit for the Wiz.

When Stokes was projected in R2, he was an obvious bargain -- big time! But, he keeps climbing and climbing on DR. And that may continue! I.e. he might not be there in the mid-twenties.

If he were there? You bet. Only 20 years old, and he looks like a stud to me. I liked the video breakdown on him at DR, and I liked his interview as well. Smart, articulate, grounded. Might even grow another inch!!

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I think it's possible that we move up. I mean if the bulls, hawks, suns or the rockets, are open to deals I think there are deals to be made. Right now our most valuable assets, are rice, Thomas and miller, plus our second. only because all 4 of those could save a team money one way or another. Otto has value but I would rather keep him. then there is web, who someone would really have to want him to give us a pick for him.
I think the rockets might sell that pick for thomas and cash just so they can keep from having the first round cap hold on there books, any of those teams might sell a late or extra pick to get miller and rice just to buy them out and save some cap room. Maybe we can get the rockets to do,the rights to Thomas plus our second, for Motiejunas, garcia and their first. That would save them about 2 mill plus the money for their first. I am sure there are more creative Ideas as well. But those are just some simple ideas

Do that last deal, and you get to smoke a $20 cigar!

And w/ their #26, it'd be hard to choose between Stokes and Anderson if they were both there. Anderson really looks like a kid w/ terrific potential. Maybe a potential star?

Sigh... we won't have that problem!

[gambitx777]

Ok I thought of something else.
Jeremy lin and Omar have cap hits of about 8 mill next year, but you have to pay them 14, The rokets will be very interested in getting those 2 gone. now here is what I am thinking, a 3 way with us and boston.
We get : Keith Bogans, the 25th and 17th pick
Rockets get: wallece and Miller, and the rights to thomas,
Boston gets, Omar and Lin and the 46th pick.

The wiz can buy out Bogans later and we get 2 firsts, and miller can always come back once he get's bought out.
the rockets can hopefully work a buy out with wallece and buy out miller. plus they don't have to pay all the extra money to omar and lin, and that gives them cap room not to make some noise, going after a big fish.
Boston can be happy with dumping some bad deals, and they get some good players on one year deals plus it actually makes them better! and they still have the more important of their picks.
you can even do a version of the deal where we only get 17 and 25 goes back to Boston or we only get 25 and Boston keeps 17 and we keep 46.

This could be a thing!

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Ok I thought of something else.
Jeremy lin and Omar have cap hits of about 8 mill next year, but you have to pay them 14, The rokets will be very interested in getting those 2 gone. now here is what I am thinking, a 3 way with us and boston.
We get : Keith Bogans, the 25th and 17th pick
Rockets get: wallece and Miller, and the rights to thomas,
Boston gets, Omar and Lin and the 46th pick.

The wiz can buy out Bogans later and we get 2 firsts, and miller can always come back once he get's bought out.
the rockets can hopefully work a buy out with wallece and buy out miller. plus they don't have to pay all the extra money to omar and lin, and that gives them cap room not to make some noise, going after a big fish.
Boston can be happy with dumping some bad deals, and they get some good players on one year deals plus it actually makes them better! and they still have the more important of their picks.
you can even do a version of the deal where we only get 17 and 25 goes back to Boston or we only get 25 and Boston keeps 17 and we keep 46.

This could be a thing!

Bogans is unguaranteed and pretty expensive. Boston is more likely just to let him go. Plus, you've got Miller being bought out as well.

Why do Houston and Boston need us? For the rights to Satoransky and our #46? Why wouldn't they just swap the players and picks w/o us being involved?

Don't get me wrong -- I'd love to have those 2 picks! But I think we'd have to drug the other GMs to get your deal done!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The only thing that I think will happen on draft night is Washington will probably misuse the 46th pick. They're either going to draft a European player who will never set foot in the NBA or they will sell the pick. I do not expect the player at 46 will make the team.

I don't think they'll be able to trade for picks or to buy a round one draft pick.

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If teams want to get out of those first picks to clear cap holds and still store that value for another day, I would think Thomas is an ideal asset to do that with. They can trade their pick and control his rights and not have a cap hit.

But who knows what the Wizards are thinking at this point. Do they really want to add another first round pick when they are going to be likely still focusing on Wall and Beal and they will be integrating Otto as their first round pick that basically red shirted last year ?

They traded this years pick for Gortat in large part to get out of the endless youth cycle teams can get stuck in. So I expect they want Gortat back. They surrounded Wall and Beal with more vets. Something tell me they will do more of the same. As we just saw with SAS, a nice blend of younger and older players is a good mix. Thats how you develop your young prospects best. You put quality vets around them and grow them.

Singleton will likely be gone. And they could be done with Kevin as well. They would remove two 24 year olds where they could clearly upgrade with more proven talent or even other younger players that project to be better prospects.

Wall/Miller
Beal
Webster/Otto
Nene/Gooden
Gortat

They should be at about 55.3M with that. Cap is 63.2M. That gives then 7.9M of cap room for
- back up SG
- back up C/PF defender to help take the load off Gortat
- perimeter PG defender with young legs would be nice behind Wall and Miller
- A stretch big to help build out the front court

Thats what I think they have so I expect plans that build that out that keep cap flexibility over the next 1-2 years. So it likely they do that via FAs mostly and one draft pick. Does that pick need to be a late first ? That isn't clear to me that its a must.

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the think with the spurs is they always bring in new youth, and good youth at that.now if we bail on singleton and Kevin, I would rather bring in young replacements. there are plenty of guys in the second round that can replace what they did and maybe do it better.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I expect Seraphin will either end up on the Spurs or the Mavericks. His NBA career will be better in the future. The Miami Heat might be a team interested, too. (But I think Blatche will end up in Miami).

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[FAH1223]

I expect Seraphin will either end up on the Spurs or the Mavericks. His NBA career will be better in the future. The Miami Heat might be a team interested, too. (But I think Blatche will end up in Miami).

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Mark Cuban has already been contacting Seraphin for computer app business

And the Spurs wanted Kevin on draft night in 2010 and he has his two friends in Parker and Diaw from the national team there assuming Diaw re-signs.

I fully expect the #46 pick to not be used. I would take a chance on several players but Grunfeld is going to be busy getting to the luxury tax line to re-sign people and using the MLE on a useless player.

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I know a lot of you aren't a fan of of I. Austin from Baylor, but the news today breaking regarding him is rather sad to me....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11119441

Was kinda hard to watch.

[pancakes3]

I know a lot of you aren't a fan of of I. Austin from Baylor, but the news today breaking regarding him is rather sad to me....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11119441

Was kinda hard to watch.

Sad, but I hope that the people on this board are able to divorce the idea of disliking Austin as a prospect and disliking him personally. I wonder if he'll be allowed to return to Baylor on scholarship and get his degree even if he can't play.

[nuposse04]

I know a lot of you aren't a fan of of I. Austin from Baylor, but the news today breaking regarding him is rather sad to me....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11119441

Was kinda hard to watch.

Sad, but I hope that the people on this board are able to divorce the idea of disliking Austin as a prospect and disliking him personally. I wonder if he'll be allowed to return to Baylor on scholarship and get his degree even if he can't play.

That is true, the wiz board is full of fairly classy fans. I just find this to be sad, the kid probably had it in head, that he will be drafted, Somewhere in the NBA draft since he was 15...then less then a week before, you find out one, you will never play competitive basketball again, and two you have a serious condition. It must hit hard at so many levels.

I think Baylor will let him finish out his degree and they will afford him the chance to become a coach. W/e the case, I hope he stays healthy. :/

[Pitbull]

The only thing that I think will happen on draft night is Washington will probably misuse the 46th pick. They're either going to draft a European player who will never set foot in the NBA or they will sell the pick. I do not expect the player at 46 will make the team.

I don't think they'll be able to trade for picks or to buy a round one draft pick.

My man, my mellow... It's the 46th pick! Easy with the negativity! I mean, I know we've all been beaten down by draft ineptitude on picks outside of the lottery (and sometimes IN the lottery), but c'mon, CCJ... The probability of success even by the best of drafters places the outcome of the pick at 55% deep bench, 25% 8th/9th man, 15% 6th man, 5% starter.

[Illuminaire]

CCJ's (and others') frustration stems from the systemic problem of the Wizards not bothering to try.

The organization routinely behaves in a short-sighted, inefficient fashion... why should anyone be mellow about that?

[nuposse04]

The only thing that I think will happen on draft night is Washington will probably misuse the 46th pick. They're either going to draft a European player who will never set foot in the NBA or they will sell the pick. I do not expect the player at 46 will make the team.

I don't think they'll be able to trade for picks or to buy a round one draft pick.

My man, my mellow... It's the 46th pick! Easy with the negativity! I mean, I know we've all been beaten down by draft ineptitude on picks outside of the lottery (and sometimes IN the lottery), but c'mon, CCJ... The probability of success even by the best of drafters places the outcome of the pick at 55% deep bench, 25% 8th/9th man, 15% 6th man, 5% starter.

A solid 9th/8th player on this team would go a long way, and 25% is a high enough probability (although it is probably less then that, I'm assuming these figures are arbitrary) that the FO should do their due diligence and actually TRY to pick the right guy then rather squandering it away. EG is lazy and lookin for handouts.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I know a lot of you aren't a fan of of I. Austin from Baylor, but the news today breaking regarding him is rather sad to me....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11119441

Was kinda hard to watch.

Sad, but I hope that the people on this board are able to divorce the idea of disliking Austin as a prospect and disliking him personally. I wonder if he'll be allowed to return to Baylor on scholarship and get his degree even if he can't play.

I have been feeling sorry for myself lately but my heart goes out to the young man. Marfan Syndrome can result in sudden death. Bad enough that he has been blinded in one eye. Now this takes a lot of money out of his pocket and endangers his life.



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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The only thing that I think will happen on draft night is Washington will probably misuse the 46th pick. They're either going to draft a European player who will never set foot in the NBA or they will sell the pick. I do not expect the player at 46 will make the team.

I don't think they'll be able to trade for picks or to buy a round one draft pick.

My man, my mellow... It's the 46th pick! Easy with the negativity! I mean, I know we've all been beaten down by draft ineptitude on picks outside of the lottery (and sometimes IN the lottery), but c'mon, CCJ... The probability of success even by the best of drafters places the outcome of the pick at 55% deep bench, 25% 8th/9th man, 15% 6th man, 5% starter.

I lobbied for drafting Millsap about a year and a half. (I even said he was worth a lottery pick). He went 47th. I knew Blair would be good, but Ernie passed him by in round two. By the time Faried came along I didn't have to convince this board. Many wanted him. Ernie wanted Vesely and Singleton. Last season, I really wanted Nate Wolters. Someone with Washington did, too. They drafted him ... and traded him. Check Milwaukee's on/off differential with Wolters playing. He's been a good defender, too. (Edited: DRtg 114 would say otherwise)

The Wizards have drafted dumb guys, "potential" guys (long athletes who lack skill/basketball IQ), questionable character guys, and they usually pass on obvious high skilled, finished players.

Washington should have kept Wolters. They are not astute enough to pick an obvious dynamic combo guard, Deonte Burton. Too obviously a good fit. Ernie won't draft Cameron Bairstow. Too mature. Too bulky.

No, Ernie will draft a project or someone who got kicked off a team or someone intellectually challenged.

(Otto Porter seems like a quality kid, and so does Beal. Booker has done well and was the exception, a mature, finished player ready to compete and contribute).

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

CCJ's (and others') frustration stems from the systemic problem of the Wizards not bothering to try.

The organization routinely behaves in a short-sighted, inefficient fashion... why should anyone be mellow about that?

Unfortunately, I'm not getting more mellow as I get older. Crusty, yes. Mellow, no.

I still feel that playoff run was fool's gold if Ariza and Gortat are not resigned. Losing that draft pick stings. As nice as Gortat turned out, the reality is Okafor got hurt and that cost the Wizards the #18 overall pick.

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[Ruzious]

I know a lot of you aren't a fan of of I. Austin from Baylor, but the news today breaking regarding him is rather sad to me....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11119441

Was kinda hard to watch.

Sad, but I hope that the people on this board are able to divorce the idea of disliking Austin as a prospect and disliking him personally. I wonder if he'll be allowed to return to Baylor on scholarship and get his degree even if he can't play.

Just horrible to hear that. I remember Chris Patton at Maryland. God, sometimes life isn't fair.