Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2)

[Kanyewest]

I'm used to Pragmatic EG and Survivalist EG. Not sure if I'm ready for Smug Trolling EG.

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I can't stand Skip Bayless. I am perfectly fine with EG trolling him. EG happens to be right in this instance of trolling.

I don't think that's EG.

[J-Ves]

I'm used to Pragmatic EG and Survivalist EG. Not sure if I'm ready for Smug Trolling EG.

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I can't stand Skip Bayless. I am perfectly fine with EG trolling him. EG happens to be right in this instance of trolling.

I don't think that's EG.

Its a fake account, but there are real NBA players that follow him. I wonder if they know its fake?

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I keep hearing all this praise suddenly for EG because the Wizards are playing well, and for the Markeif Morris trade.

That's all fine and dandy but that Mahinmi signing was horrendous and could go down as one of the worst in franchise history. They could be in a much better position to make a run if that money had been put to better use, or if they still had that flexibility. How do you spend that much on a guy with bad knees??! And he wasn't anything special when he was healthy!

[DCZards]

I keep hearing all this praise suddenly for EG because the Wizards are playing well, and for the Markeif Morris trade.

That's all fine and dandy but that Mahinmi signing was horrendous and could go down as one of the worst in franchise history. They could be in a much better position to make a run if that money had been put to better use, or if they still had that flexibility. How do you spend that much on a guy with bad knees??! And he wasn't anything special when he was healthy!

One of the worst signings in franchise history. That's a bit of hyperbole isn't it?

Way too early to make the call on the Mahinmi signing. Guy has played 4 games in a Zards uni. Last year around this time some posters were making similar gloom and doom statements about the Morris trade. Today Kieff is playing well and making an important contribution to the Zards current success.

[keynote]

I can't stand Skip Bayless. I am perfectly fine with EG trolling him. EG happens to be right in this instance of trolling.

I don't think that's EG.

Its a fake account, but there are real NBA players that follow him. I wonder if they know its fake?

Oh, it's fake? Color me fooled, then. I know it's not blue check-verified, but man, most of the previous tweets are in the same bland corporate speak one would expect from an NBA GM (not named Phil Jackson).

These aren't the kinds of tweets normally associated with fake accounts:

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Frankly, the trollish tweet is the first one I could find that really seemed uncharacteristic. That's some long con.

[SizzlinSimms]

If Blake Griffin actually tests the FA, we need to go balls to the wall. I love Porter but I'd easily take Griffin over him.

[BigA]

Frankly, the trollish tweet is the first one I could find that really seemed uncharacteristic. That's some long con.

I had the same impression. We're sure it's a fake account? Someone on twitter could always tweet at @WashWizards and ask if we aren't sure.

[ozthegap]

why does ochefu have a 3 yr contract? For what?

[leswizards]

One of the worst signings in franchise history. That's a bit of hyperbole isn't it?

Way too early to make the call on the Mahinmi signing. Guy has played 4 games in a Zards uni. Last year around this time some posters were making similar gloom and doom statements about the Morris trade. Today Kieff is playing well and making an important contribution to the Zards current success.

I agree on the Mahinmi signing. If Mahinmi play to his career averages, and Gortat and Mahinmi can play about 8 mpg on the court together, this could turn out to be a decent signing.

As to Morris trade, I am glad that Morris is playing better, and it has made me reevaluate the trade. But, IMO, it was still a bad trade. The Wizards gave away a lottery pick in desperation in the hopes that Morris could help them make the playoffs. The fact that the Wizards didn't make the playoffs, and lost a lottery pick, will always make this a bad trade.

[Illmatic12]

I don't think that's EG.

Its a fake account, but there are real NBA players that follow him. I wonder if they know its fake?

Oh, it's fake? Color me fooled, then. I know it's not blue check-verified, but man, most of the previous tweets are in the same bland corporate speak one would expect from an NBA GM (not named Phil Jackson).

These aren't the kinds of tweets normally associated with fake accounts:

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Read on Twitter

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Frankly, the trollish tweet is the first one I could find that really seemed uncharacteristic. That's some long con.

We have to get to the bottom of this.. is it the real Ernie or no?? An NBA team GM can't get a blue verified check mark on his twitter? (or maybe he doesn't know how to request one - after all this is a guy who still uses Windows 2000)

[nate33]

I keep hearing all this praise suddenly for EG because the Wizards are playing well, and for the Markeif Morris trade.

That's all fine and dandy but that Mahinmi signing was horrendous and could go down as one of the worst in franchise history. They could be in a much better position to make a run if that money had been put to better use, or if they still had that flexibility. How do you spend that much on a guy with bad knees??! And he wasn't anything special when he was healthy!

One of the worst signings in franchise history. That's a bit of hyperbole isn't it?

Way too early to make the call on the Mahinmi signing. Guy has played 4 games in a Zards uni. Last year around this time some posters were making similar gloom and doom statements about the Morris trade. Today Kieff is playing well and making an important contribution to the Zards current success.

The fact that he has only played 4 games bolsters the argument that it was one of the worst signings in franchise history. That said, you are right in that the possibility still exists that he could play like Biyombo did on the Raptors and it will be worth it.

The Etan extension was probably worse. Certainly the Blatche contract was worse, but only because Blatche stopped trying.

[nate33]

why does ochefu have a 3 yr contract? For what?

It's non-guaranteed. It's actually the best possible type of contract. Long term, really cheap, and voidable.

[keynote]

This is the face of a man who is completely secure in his position.



(First seen on BF)

The other mystery: is John Wall's bodyguard (who I've dubbed "DeMarcus' Cousin") *actually* related to Cousins? Can anyone confirm? The resemblance is uncanny, and I could certainly see Wall doing his college teammate a solid by hiring his almost-as-large but not not as basketball-inclined relative to handle private security.

I once knew a guy who worked security for a few celebs. He was 6'7" and easily ran 375 lbs(!). He wasn't fast or in good shape, and I'm sure most would-be troublemakers could outrun him in a footrace. But man, he was a visual deterrent.

[nuposse04]

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2017/2/17/14647942/ernie-grunfeld-swagger-nba-all-star-break

the author of this article is devoid of reason. So many holes in his argument. I honestly think BF is to a degree bought by the Wizards FO. Until Kevin showed up, they were sans any real critical analysis.

[payitforward]

I keep hearing all this praise suddenly for EG because the Wizards are playing well, and for the Markeif Morris trade.

That's all fine and dandy but that Mahinmi signing was horrendous and could go down as one of the worst in franchise history. They could be in a much better position to make a run if that money had been put to better use, or if they still had that flexibility. How do you spend that much on a guy with bad knees??! And he wasn't anything special when he was healthy!

One of the worst signings in franchise history. That's a bit of hyperbole isn't it?

Way too early to make the call on the Mahinmi signing. Guy has played 4 games in a Zards uni. Last year around this time some posters were making similar gloom and doom statements about the Morris trade. Today Kieff is playing well and making an important contribution to the Zards current success.

Oh Zards... It's true that Morris is playing better than he ever has, & I'm glad -- above all for him as a person.

But, my friend, in the time I've been on this Board (now almost 5 years) you have never criticized any trade Ernie has made, you've never criticized any FA signing of Ernie's, and overall I can't remember you ever thinking any Ernie move whatever deserved to be criticized. It's always either too early to criticize it, or once time has passed it's just concentrating on the past instead of the future.

What this means, obviously, is that an opinion like the one you express above doesn't seem to have much meaning. It's automatic rather than about the particulars of a situation. In the case of Morris, no, he wasn't worth what we gave -- it was a bad trade.

Phoenix had been trying to move Markieff all season with no success. Then Ernie came along & gave a lottery pick for him! Wow.... Moreover, you may remember he was supposed to give us a "jolt" into the playoffs, which didn't happen.

There were a lot better FA PFs available in the off season for no more money. Waiting for that opportunity would mean we'd have a lottery level rookie on this team instead of Ochefu or House. Moreover, Morris would almost certainly have been available in the off season -- and for a lot less than we gave!

[AFM]

DAMN!!!! PIF ANGRY AS HELL!!!!

[NatP4]

This is the face of a man who is completely secure in his position.



(First seen on BF)

The other mystery: is John Wall's bodyguard (who I've dubbed "DeMarcus' Cousin") *actually* related to Cousins? Can anyone confirm? The resemblance is uncanny, and I could certainly see Wall doing his college teammate a solid by hiring his almost-as-large but not not as basketball-inclined relative to handle private security.

I once knew a guy who worked security for a few celebs. He was 6'7" and easily ran 375 lbs(!). He wasn't fast or in good shape, and I'm sure most would-be troublemakers could outrun him in a footrace. But man, he was a visual deterrent.

i mean, his real name definitely isn't flavaforeal lol

[DCZards]

DAMN!!!! PIF ANGRY AS HELL!!!!

Yeah, PIF is angry because Morris is ballin' and he didn't see it coming. So PIF gets mad at me for taking a "wait-and-see" attitude after the trade instead of immediately labeling Kieff a "terrible" player like he did.

But I'm a big boy. So I can take the heat from PIF.

Go Zards!

[tontoz]

Basketball is a bit like poker. A good poker player keeps the odds in his favor knowing that over time it will make him a winner. In the short term there can be a lot of variance. A bad move sometimes can pay off big and sometimes a good move can cost you big.

There isn't as much chance involved in basketball, but there is still some degree of luck involved. Last year we missed the playoffs. I am pretty sure that isn't what EG had in mind when he made the trade. Morris sucked the first two months of this season as well.

But it looks like Brooks may have turned a lemon into lemonade. Given that the trade was made before Brooks was hired i doubt that EG was able to foresee this. Certainly EG deserves credit for hiring Brooks who may be the best coach i have seen on a team i have actively followed.

[Dat2U]

I keep hearing all this praise suddenly for EG because the Wizards are playing well, and for the Markeif Morris trade.

That's all fine and dandy but that Mahinmi signing was horrendous and could go down as one of the worst in franchise history. They could be in a much better position to make a run if that money had been put to better use, or if they still had that flexibility. How do you spend that much on a guy with bad knees??! And he wasn't anything special when he was healthy!

One of the worst signings in franchise history. That's a bit of hyperbole isn't it?

Way too early to make the call on the Mahinmi signing. Guy has played 4 games in a Zards uni. Last year around this time some posters were making similar gloom and doom statements about the Morris trade. Today Kieff is playing well and making an important contribution to the Zards current success.

Oh Zards... It's true that Morris is playing better than he ever has, & I'm glad -- above all for him as a person.

But, my friend, in the time I've been on this Board (now almost 5 years) you have never criticized any trade Ernie has made, you've never criticized any FA signing of Ernie's, and overall I can't remember you ever thinking any Ernie move whatever deserved to be criticized. It's always either too early to criticize it, or once time has passed it's just concentrating on the past instead of the future.

What this means, obviously, is that an opinion like the one you express above doesn't seem to have much meaning. It's automatic rather than about the particulars of a situation. In the case of Morris, no, he wasn't worth what we gave -- it was a bad trade.

Phoenix had been trying to move Markieff all season with no success. Then Ernie came along & gave a lottery pick for him! Wow.... Moreover, you may remember he was supposed to give us a "jolt" into the playoffs, which didn't happen.

There were a lot better FA PFs available in the off season for no more money. Waiting for that opportunity would mean we'd have a lottery level rookie on this team instead of Ochefu or House. Moreover, Morris would almost certainly have been available in the off season -- and for a lot less than we gave!

PIF is dead on though. I've never seen DCZards criticize a move this organization has made either. Thankfully Morris has morphed into a quality starting PF the last two months but before then he was really really bad and not worth the unnecessary lottery pick we gave up for him. I still believe we could have had him for much less.