Bradley Beal - Part IV

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Is he damaged goods? Be honest…

No backsies!

Anyway fair trade since Landry Shamet hasn't played for us either.
And really neither has CP3

Bradley Beal is guaranteed to miss 20 games or more. He will probably miss 35 or more games.

Phoenix is going to have buyer's remorse.

[dcstanley]

Phoenix has gotten worse not better this off season. Their best player last year -- by far -- was Chris Paul. Now, this year they have a full season of Kevin Durant, which should make up for that loss.

But no Mikal Bridges, no Cam Johnson. Nurkic isn't as good as Ayton, & if anything their role players overall are downgraded from last year. Brad won't help as much as they think he will, not nearly as much.

They won 45 games last year. I doubt they'll get there again this year.

What data are you looking at that suggests Paul was better than Devin Booker last season?

[Kanyewest]

Phoenix does have an incredible medical staff so perhaps they can fix Beal like they did with Grant Hill. Steve Nash was getting older but his back issues seemed to get worse when he left Phoenix. Amare also suffered a similar fate. Although the Suns couldn't stop Cp3 from getting injured in the playoffs.

Booker/Beal have now missed 2 games yet the Suns are 2-1- probably would have been 3-0 if 2 of the 3 played against the Lakers- granted the Jazz do not look as impressive as they were last season although a blowout win is still good for Phoenix considering the circumstances.

[payitforward]

Phoenix has gotten worse not better this off season. Their best player last year -- by far -- was Chris Paul. .

What data are you looking at that suggests Paul was better than Devin Booker last season?

Devin Booker is a really good player. & he had a good year. My point wasn't to be critical of him.

Chris Paul is an even better player -- much better to tell the truth. & he had a better year than Booker last year. As he has had every year that they've both been in the league. Since Chris Paul is one of the best players in the history of the NBA, this is no surprise.

Last year, obviously, Booker was a better scorer than CP3. As rebounders they were about the same.

Suppose we add up each guy's assists, steals & blocks & then we subtract his turnovers & fouls.

Per 40 minutes, the resulting number for Booker is +1.25.
For Chris Paul the resulting number is +8.5.

[Dark Faze]

Is he damaged goods? Be honest…

No backsies!

Anyway fair trade since Landry Shamet hasn't played for us either.
And really neither has CP3

Bradley Beal is guaranteed to miss 20 games or more. He will probably miss 35 or more games.

Phoenix is going to have buyer's remorse.

Phoenix mostly just cares about the post season, and I think they'll time things such that Brad will be healthy for those.

That being said, it puts a lot of pressure on KD at his age to carry them to a lot of regular season wins. Booker too of course.

[Frichuela]

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[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

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Tragic...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Predictable

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[AFM]

I had/have a f-ed up back so I'm not going to clown on him or anything. Hope he gets better.

[DCZards]

Yeah... kinda petty to make light of another person's pain and misfortune.

[gambitx777]

I hope Brad's back feels better.
But I also hope Brad buys a box of cosmic brownies only to get home, opens the box and they don't have the sprinkles. LoL!

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[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Petty my ass. No one is making fun of one's pain, just stop. Save the holier than thou complex for someone other than a cupcake, professional athlete.

He's simply a third or fourth best player on any given team, that is constantly injures, making an absurd amount of money.

It's okay to poke some fun at the irony of it all. Poking fun at a professional athlete that admitted he found it hard to get motivated for basketball despite making the super max.

Love the blind zeal to defend Beal and his cupcakiness on this board.

[Kanyewest]

Petty my ass. No one is making fun of one's pain, just stop. Save the holier than thou complex for someone other than a cupcake, professional athlete.

He's simply a third or fourth best player on any given team, that is constantly injures, making an absurd amount of money.

It's okay to poke some fun at the irony of it all. Poking fun at a professional athlete that admitted he found it hard to get motivated for basketball despite making the super max.

Love the blind zeal to defend Beal and his cupcakiness on this board.

Smiling emoji for an injury isn't taking some joy in it?

[closg00]

I believe in karma.

[badinage]

^ As Prince said on “Bob George”: “Ain’t that a bitch?!”

Also? I don’t apologize for not wishing him well. Sorry. It didn’t have to be this way. I would have loved to be able to wish him success and good fortune. But he made his move. His grubby, scorched-earth move. And here we are.

Now, to be fair: a lot of professional athletes would have done what he did. But I don’t have to like it.

If athletes and “owners” behaved differently, I would regard them as people. But I don’t. They’re not real to me. They’re *like* people, in that they do some of the same things that people do. But they’re not. Truly not. Same with celebrities. Not real. And I think it’s foolish (and maybe dangerous) to project onto them.

We all do it, though. Some more and some less.

I might do it for an athlete I like — project anthropomorphically onto him. But not for one who engineered an exit like this.

So, Bradley Beal, who was never entirely real to me, becomes even less real to me — or less of a concern — when he scorches the ground and flees.

Not entirely real and on the team I root for: this means a certain interest, and maybe even affection.

Not entirely real and having ditched the team I root for: disdain.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Below is from October 29, 2023

Is he damaged goods? Be honest…

No backsies!

Anyway fair trade since Landry Shamet hasn't played for us either.
And really neither has CP3

Bradley Beal is guaranteed to miss 20 games or more. He will probably miss 35 or more games.

Phoenix is going to have buyer's remorse.

[LyricalRico]

Below is from October 29, 2023

No backsies!

Anyway fair trade since Landry Shamet hasn't played for us either.
And really neither has CP3

Bradley Beal is guaranteed to miss 20 games or more. He will probably miss 35 or more games.

Phoenix is going to have buyer's remorse.

And not much they can do since they apparently let him keep the "no trade" clause.

[Benjammin]

^The no trade clause doesn't matter so much at this point because he may have the most negative value contract in the NBA.

[Tyrone Messby]

Was just reading the old trade thread on the main board and how we got fleeced by the Suns. We all tried to warn them dude might go down as having the worst nba contract of all time. Has a top 5 salary in the league and no where to be found in the top 50 stats

[The Consiglieri]

If you read those posts, I think about 99% of the feeling of getting fleeced, comes from the expectations over what we could have gotten when we should have traded him ('19-'21 or whatever) and what we actually were going to get (largely nothing) due to the fact that we did not trade him before or after we gave him the extra two year extension, and then gave him the bag. There was a window of time where he could have been traded for like an 85% of what OKC got for george etc, maybe 80%, instead we got 5% or 10% of what OKC got. Beal was the prime piece of a potential rebuild, but the FO and the fan base were in total denial (or about 75-80% of them were) from '19 to '23, and as a result the two windows to steal a massive pot of gold (remember, the Clippers got 5 firsts, SGA, and 4 pick swaps) from a team like OKC did, instead turned into a couple of pick swaps, and what, Chris Paul's corpse?

That's why people felt we were fleeced, the comparison of what we could have got, if we were run by an intelligent FO, versus what we did get, because we'd been mismanaged for essentially 40 years, and been utterly inept with Beal in particular over the previous four years.

People were responding to the story of '19-'23, the 2 year extension, the max, and the bald faced lie that Beal wanted to be a wizard for life that so many homer fans wanted to believe was true despite immense evidence from history with NBA players given such power and options.

Once Beal did the rug pull, just in time for the team to be at its weakest in terms of leverage and options, instead of '19-'22, and could get next to nothing, well, fans felt we were swindled, and they were right, compared to what we could have gotten if he had been traded at the right time (post Wall injury, or post 2 year extension).

It doesn't mean the Suns did something smart. They didn't either, but they were also in denial about the potential consequences of going all in on a team with 1 ingrate, 1 disloyal liar, and 1 in his prime player. And it blue up in their face too. Thank karma. We are in position in spite of ourselves at this point, if the Suns blow up this mess over the next year or so, not out of genius or not getting fleeced, just out of blind dumb luck that just as we had the worst possibility play out in terms of the handling of Beal as an asset, it appears the worse possible result from the acquisitions of guys to build around Booker the past couple of years is also playing out. GOOD.