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2025 Draft Thread - Part 2

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#821 » by dckingsfan » Fri May 16, 2025 10:42 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm completely sold on Maxime Raynaud. Gonna have a long, successful NBA career.

Completely agree, I think someone is going to get a steal here.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#822 » by payitforward » Sat May 17, 2025 12:09 am

daoneandonly wrote:
The Consiglieri wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:That guy, no matter how knowledgeable, has no place on TV. He's so boring and robotic. I remember it on ESPN last year, and this interview shows he hasnt grown whatsoever in that area

You talking about the old ringer dude O'Connor who I think ended up on yahoo?

No I mean Giovany

Givony, that is. & I don't agree at all. He's incredibly smart, incredibly well informed, & incredibly thoughtful. I found the video extremely interesting.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#823 » by tontoz » Sat May 17, 2025 12:14 am

"bulky agile perimeter bone crunch pick setting draymond green" WizD
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#824 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat May 17, 2025 1:28 am

Ace falling, Carter rising... ???

This guy actually makes a lot of good points...


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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#825 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat May 17, 2025 5:25 am

Draft Combine Winners & Losers...





Draft Stock Updates...

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#826 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 17, 2025 7:24 am

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An interesting bigman choice in Queen, Malauch, and Sorber. Queen is all offense, Maulauch is all defense, and Sorber is in between, but coming off an injury. With those measurements, I'd take Sorber out of the three, but I'm not sure if he's fully recovered.

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#827 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 17, 2025 7:26 am

Northwest Roddy wrote:
AFM wrote:Forget a HOF thread. We need a thread for REALGM LEGENDS, sort of like a Mount Rushmore, or the Vietnam Memorial Wall if you prefer gallows humor.

Hands11
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I’m sure I’m missing more…

Still Droppin 20 was my favorite.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#828 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat May 17, 2025 7:40 am

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Dark Faze wrote:For me personally it's either Fears or Queen.

Fears reminds me of a weird combination of Wall and Irving. Wall's speed but not his passing. Irvings handle but not his jumpshot. Not sure what that ultimately gets you, but I like it.

Queen has a lot of flaws but I just see it with the eye test much like Sengun and I'm just like "yea, he's him".

Tre Johnson is the good shooting 3 and D wing that comes along every draft really and you don't really know what to peg him as. Maybe you get lucky and he's Trey Murphy. Or maybe he's kind of mid in a Deandre Hunter kind of way, or worse. In either case I can't take such a prospect over Fears. I do realize my interest in Queen is probably a minority opinion.


On Queen, no doubt his agility and athletic performance at the combine was putrid. Having said that, how would a Jokic, Sengun or Sabonis fare? With Queen, it's obvious, are Dawkins & co convinced they can change his body and attitude to fitness? Is Queen willing to do the hard graft in this area?
Queen can open up the offense. Who have the Wizards ever had with his ability on the low post?

He's a great passer.

What other 6'10" players have they had who can create their own offense from the top of the key or the elbow
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#829 » by doclinkin » Sat May 17, 2025 11:07 am

A win-now team that takes Ryan Kalkbrenner may end up with the Rookie of the Year.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#830 » by closg00 » Sat May 17, 2025 11:22 am

doclinkin wrote:A win-now team that takes Ryan Kalkbrenner may end up with the Rookie of the Year.

I like what I’ve read, sounds like what we hope Tristan would be if he could play D.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/2025-nba-draft-scouting-report-ryan-kalkbrenner-c-creighton-144458936.html
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#831 » by Dat2U » Sat May 17, 2025 1:18 pm

I moved Ace up my board to #4. Tre at 5. His coordination is special for his size. I think alot of issues will be unlocked as he improves his handle. His teammates at Rutgers, outside of Harper were really bad and I think he'll benefit from NBA spacing and NBA quality teammates.

I would try to trade up to 3 or 4 to secure either VJ or Ace.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#832 » by Dat2U » Sat May 17, 2025 1:19 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:For me personally it's either Fears or Queen.

Fears reminds me of a weird combination of Wall and Irving. Wall's speed but not his passing. Irvings handle but not his jumpshot. Not sure what that ultimately gets you, but I like it.

Queen has a lot of flaws but I just see it with the eye test much like Sengun and I'm just like "yea, he's him".

Tre Johnson is the good shooting 3 and D wing that comes along every draft really and you don't really know what to peg him as. Maybe you get lucky and he's Trey Murphy. Or maybe he's kind of mid in a Deandre Hunter kind of way, or worse. In either case I can't take such a prospect over Fears. I do realize my interest in Queen is probably a minority opinion.


On Queen, no doubt his agility and athletic performance at the combine was putrid. Having said that, how would a Jokic, Sengun or Sabonis fare? With Queen, it's obvious, are Dawkins & co convinced they can change his body and attitude to fitness? Is Queen willing to do the hard graft in this area?
Queen can open up the offense. Who have the Wizards ever had with his ability on the low post?

He's a great passer.

What other 6'10" players have they had who can create their own offense from the top of the key or the elbow


Danny Wolf can do many of the same things and does not take plays off.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#833 » by Dat2U » Sat May 17, 2025 1:20 pm

My dream draft at this point is VJ or Ace & Danny Wolf.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#834 » by AFM » Sat May 17, 2025 2:12 pm

Dat2U wrote:My dream draft at this point is VJ or Ace & Danny Wolf.


What would you be willing to give up to move up? #18?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#835 » by willbcocks » Sat May 17, 2025 2:18 pm

Preferably get bad contract back from Philly +3 for 6; if they value any of our veterans, they can have whoever they want.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#836 » by dobrojim » Sat May 17, 2025 2:47 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Wildly enough, Ace is starting to grow on me. I think he fits well with this core.

C Sarr / Vukcevic
F Coulibaly
F Bailey / Ju. Champagnie
G Ky. George / C. Jones
G Carrington / A. Johnson

The lineup definitely needs shot creation and shooting. Theoretically he provides that without sacrificing length & defensive focus. Get him working on his handle which will be the key to unlocking his offensive upside as a creator.

I think there are some bigs that are going to fall in the draft as well, both PFs and Cs. So, it could work...


Carter Bryant vs Ace?

Bryant really popped the eye test for me on his
highlight video. But we'd have to take him w/
our 6th (most likely). Won't be there at 18.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#837 » by dobrojim » Sat May 17, 2025 2:50 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:For me personally it's either Fears or Queen.

Fears reminds me of a weird combination of Wall and Irving. Wall's speed but not his passing. Irvings handle but not his jumpshot. Not sure what that ultimately gets you, but I like it.

Queen has a lot of flaws but I just see it with the eye test much like Sengun and I'm just like "yea, he's him".

Tre Johnson is the good shooting 3 and D wing that comes along every draft really and you don't really know what to peg him as. Maybe you get lucky and he's Trey Murphy. Or maybe he's kind of mid in a Deandre Hunter kind of way, or worse. In either case I can't take such a prospect over Fears. I do realize my interest in Queen is probably a minority opinion.


On Queen, no doubt his agility and athletic performance at the combine was putrid. Having said that, how would a Jokic, Sengun or Sabonis fare? With Queen, it's obvious, are Dawkins & co convinced they can change his body and attitude to fitness? Is Queen willing to do the hard graft in this area?
Queen can open up the offense. Who have the Wizards ever had with his ability on the low post?

He's a great passer.

What other 6'10" players have they had who can create their own offense from the top of the key or the elbow


Ruland or Moses (low post).
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#838 » by dobrojim » Sat May 17, 2025 2:55 pm

doclinkin wrote:A win-now team that takes Ryan Kalkbrenner may end up with the Rookie of the Year.


Maybe. But as you know, we have a definite upper
limit on winning now. We need the guy who will pop
in his 2-3rd year.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#839 » by J-Ves » Sat May 17, 2025 2:59 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
TGW wrote:
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An interesting bigman choice in Queen, Malauch, and Sorber. Queen is all offense, Maulauch is all defense, and Sorber is in between, but coming off an injury. With those measurements, I'd take Sorber out of the three, but I'm not sure if he's fully recovered.

Time for Dawkins to earn that paycheck.
If I were Dawkins, I'd secretly be looking to bolt. The Wizards are going to take three years to reach mediocrity.

I’m sure he’s working on his escape plan as we speak
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#840 » by Dat2U » Sat May 17, 2025 2:59 pm

AFM wrote:
Dat2U wrote:My dream draft at this point is VJ or Ace & Danny Wolf.


What would you be willing to give up to move up? #18?


I don't know. I would try to get it done with multiple 2nds & taking on a bad contract.

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